When will Nadal win another tourney ?

[Kieran]

It's crass and disrespectful.

Obviously you don't think it's appropriate for a champion to behave like that. He wasn't out there dancing with the kids to rub it in the face of the guy that lost. He was out there dancing with the kids. It may not be your cup of tea, but those little kids had fun.

Serena had him dancing with her to Night Fever at the Champions Ball. I imagine that's not in line with proper decorum either. She probably never would have suggested the idea to Fedal, but she knew Nole would be up for it.

I agree with you that character is how you respond when your back is up against the wall. Being a character is probably what Front was getting at.

It is certainly not my cup of tea, I think it's undignified and disrespectful, as I said back when it happened, and it's one of those things Nole has gotten up to, but since stopped. It's irrelevant if the kids were happy. And the players I always liked least in tennis are the so-called "characters". To a man I've found them to be humourless and irritating. It's not my idea of entertainment at all. With tennis, the entertainment is in the shots. My favourite players have always been this way, I never like the hysterical or histrionic players at all, the antics of Mac or Connors or Nastase. They behaved differently to Novak, who's a sportsman by comparison, but this dancing malarkey? :Nono

 

[Carol]

This is a character and funny but like I said before everything has the proper time

http://youtu.be/dU6MzYXbgy8

 

[nehmeth]

It is certainly not my cup of tea, I think it's undignified and disrespectful. It's irrelevant if the kids were happy. And the players I always liked least in tennis are the so-called "characters". To a man I've found them to be humourless and irritating. It's not my idea of entertainment at all.

You have every right to your opinion. Others don't have the same.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2syJ7NxRcQ[/video]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YskqvyX1W7M[/video]

 

[Kieran]

You have every right to your opinion.

Thanks! It would be a strange place here if I didn't... :laydownlaughing

 

[Carol]

And though probably you have watched this many times it was really fun to watch, what a pair of LOL

[video=youtube]http://youtu.be/jJV-mF6chSg[/video]

 

[Carol]

Thanks tented, I try to show the link like you do (the full picture) but I don't know why I can't :blush: :huh:

 

[tented]

Thanks tented, I try to show the link like you do (the full picture) but I don't know why I can't :blush: :huh:

You're welcome. I'll send you a PM to discuss embedding videos.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Wait, how full of it do you have to be, to tell a player if they overreacted to a tournament win? Who are YOU to tell someone how they should feel about a tournament win THEY worked hard to achieve?

Fans are so entitled it's unbelievable.

 

[Dhilip kumar]

It feels painful to see Nadal working hard to come back to form. Its not that he is in a bad form. I think he lost his fitness for the way he played over years. Think how much his body would have taken the strain for his style of playing which is full of power. Personally i had a feeling when he was at his peak that he wont play for a long time. One difference between his close rival federer is that Roger plays with the opponent with variations and skills whereas Nadal plays with the ball on court with full of power and dismantles the oppont. I think he he has done enough even though his age is less. So there is no justice in expecting Nadal to run on the court like before after these many injuries.

 

[Kieran]

Welcome, Dhilip! Let's hope Rafa is patient and gives us one more charge, eh?

 

[brokenshoelace]

I've heard rumblings around the Nike headquarters of a new wristband designed specifically for Rafa. Engraved underneath the trademark Nike logo are the letters "WWGSMD." After each win, Nadal will look at those letters and wonder, "what would GameSetandMath do?"

Unfortunately, by the looks of it, he won't be taking too many looks this year, but stranger things have happened.

 

[Kieran]

I've heard rumblings among the Nike headquarters of a new wristband designed specifically for Rafa. Engraved underneath the trademark Nike logo are the letters "WWGSMD." After each win, Nadal will look at those letters and wonder, "what would GameSetandMath do?"

Unfortunately, by the looks of it, he won't be taking too many looks, but stranger things have happened.

:laydownlaughing

 

[Carol]

It feels painful to see Nadal working hard to come back to form. Its not that he is in a bad form. I think he lost his fitness for the way he played over years. Think how much his body would have taken the strain for his style of playing which is full of power. Personally i had a feeling when he was at his peak that he wont play for a long time. One difference between his close rival federer is that Roger plays with the opponent with variations and skills whereas Nadal plays with the ball on court with full of power and dismantles the oppont. I think he he has done enough even though his age is less. So there is no justice in expecting Nadal to run on the court like before after these many injuries.

Don't feel painful, Nadal is ok and more healthy than ever but remember, tennis is a sport that they can't stop to play, not even when they are in vacations, otherwise they lose the fitness very easy and it's tough to recovery it, he got it but not yet his confidence which is even more important than anything else . He has been many times out of the court because his knee which has bothered him for years but not because the same "song" (his style to play) but because he broke his foot many years ego (he was 16) and the doctor told him that he probably couldn't play anymore......and after that he always has to play with a special insole in his shoe and the feet have totally connection with the knees
And about Fed, he should pray and thanks to all the tennis gods for his good luck not having any injury.
He is doing so much effort like anyone else but his frame of the body has helped him more than anything else and not because his variations but he has had something more advantageous than Nadal, his serve which is his best shot.
Look what Nadal says:
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/08/09/rafael-nadal-looking-to-end-slide-at-rogers-cup

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Wait, how full of it do you have to be, to tell a player if they overreacted to a tournament win? Who are YOU to tell someone how they should feel about a tournament win THEY worked hard to achieve?

Fans are so entitled it's unbelievable.

I am sorry that Tignor is so full of himself. :cover

 

[tented]

I've heard rumblings around the Nike headquarters of a new wristband designed specifically for Rafa. Engraved underneath the trademark Nike logo are the letters "WWGSMD." After each win, Nadal will look at those letters and wonder, "what would GameSetandMath do?"

Is it good or bad I figured this out before reading the next sentence?

 

[Kieran]

Wait, how full of it do you have to be, to tell a player if they overreacted to a tournament win? Who are YOU to tell someone how they should feel about a tournament win THEY worked hard to achieve?

Fans are so entitled it's unbelievable.

I am sorry that Tignor is so full of himself. :cover

You're still putting words in Tignor's mouth? :laydownlaughing :lolz:

 

[GameSetAndMath]

You were trying to downplay (see your jury is out post) the significance of 60 unforced errors in two sets By F^3 as being crucial to Rafa's win. Tignor clearly states that Rafa won as F^3 made several errors at crucial junctures. The thing is it is so obvious to anyone who watched the match and for those who did not watch the match the stats are crying out loud. In fact, most Nadal fans agree with that. Only you are in denial.

Pay attention: I didn't address the part of your post that refers to FFS. I addressed the part where you claimed that Tignor said that Rafa "over-reacted."

Tignor didn't say this...

Sure, he did not use the phrase "over-reacted". But, no one would in the right mind would interpret Tignor's first paragraph as saying anything other than overreacting.

Let me directly include the first paragraph verbatim below.


" It took him until August, but Rafael Nadal finally won a clay-court title in Europe in 2015. (AP)
Rafael Nadal won an ATP 500 event in Hamburg on Sunday, but he celebrated like it was a Grand Slam. After restraining himself through the handshake with the man he had just beaten, Fabio Fognini, Nadal dropped his racquet, skipped to the center of the court, fell to his knees, threw his head back, and held his arms high over his head triumphantly. "

You can ask a million people whether this interpretation of Tignor is correct and 999,998 would agree. The other two would be Kieran and BS. This is not me putting words in Tignor's mouth. This is you shooting yourself in the foot by trying to argue over something with no basis.

 

[tented]

Pay attention: I didn't address the part of your post that refers to FFS. I addressed the part where you claimed that Tignor said that Rafa "over-reacted."

Tignor didn't say this...

Sure, he did not use the phrase "over-reacted". But, no one would in the right mind would interpret Tignor's first paragraph as saying anything other than overreacting.

Let me directly include the first paragraph verbatim below.


" It took him until August, but Rafael Nadal finally won a clay-court title in Europe in 2015. (AP)
Rafael Nadal won an ATP 500 event in Hamburg on Sunday, but he celebrated like it was a Grand Slam. After restraining himself through the handshake with the man he had just beaten, Fabio Fognini, Nadal dropped his racquet, skipped to the center of the court, fell to his knees, threw his head back, and held his arms high over his head triumphantly. "

You can ask a million people whether this interpretation of Tignor is correct and 999,998 would agree. The other two would be Kieran and BS. This is not me putting words in Tignor's mouth. This is you shooting yourself in the foot by trying to argue over something with no basis.

This is another example of the fan-base prism effect: you could ask a million Federer fans whether this interpretation of Tignor is correct, and 999,998 would agree; you could ask a million Nadal fans, and 999,998 would disagree.

But, for the record, Kieran is correct: at no point did Tignor state Nadal over-reacted. What Tignor did do was state the facts: Nadal didn't do anything celebratory prior to the handshake, then he fell to his knees, threw his head back, and held his arms high. Just the facts, ma'am.

 

[Kieran]

You can ask a million people whether this interpretation of Tignor is correct and 999,998 would agree. The other two would be Kieran and BS. This is not me putting words in Tignor's mouth. This is you shooting yourself in the foot by trying to argue over something with no basis.

Nonsense. You're projecting your need to criticise young Ralph onto an article you misread. It's kinda hilarious that you're still persisting with it, when you haven't shown a shred of anything that suggests Nadal overreacted at all. It's typical that you'd put a negative slant on such a small thing, so maybe you're the one who's overreacting...

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Sure, he did not use the phrase "over-reacted". But, no one would in the right mind would interpret Tignor's first paragraph as saying anything other than overreacting.

Let me directly include the first paragraph verbatim below.


" It took him until August, but Rafael Nadal finally won a clay-court title in Europe in 2015. (AP)
Rafael Nadal won an ATP 500 event in Hamburg on Sunday, but he celebrated like it was a Grand Slam. After restraining himself through the handshake with the man he had just beaten, Fabio Fognini, Nadal dropped his racquet, skipped to the center of the court, fell to his knees, threw his head back, and held his arms high over his head triumphantly. "

You can ask a million people whether this interpretation of Tignor is correct and 999,998 would agree. The other two would be Kieran and BS. This is not me putting words in Tignor's mouth. This is you shooting yourself in the foot by trying to argue over something with no basis.

This is another example of the fan-base prism effect: you could ask a million Federer fans whether this interpretation of Tignor is correct, and 999,998 would agree; you could ask a million Nadal fans, and 999,998 would disagree.

But, for the record, Kieran is correct: at no point did Tignor state Nadal over-reacted. What Tignor did do was state the facts: Nadal didn't do anything celebratory prior to the handshake, then he fell to his knees, threw his head back, and held his arms high. Just the facts, ma'am.

There is no fan-base prism effect here. Tignor's wording is "Rafael Nadal won an ATP 500 event in Hamburg on Sunday, but he celebrated like it was a Grand Slam" and you guys are claiming that most people would not interpret this as Tignor claiming Rafa overreacted. Get real folks.

Whether Rafa fans think Rafa overreacted or Fed fans think Rafa overreacted is a different issue.
That is not what we are talking about. Just stating it for clarity. Tignor clearly implied that Rafa overreacted. One may disagree whether Rafa overreacted or not. But, any neutral observer would agree that Tignor implied Rafa overreacted. If winning a 500 and celebrating it like a GS win is not overreacting, what is?