When will Nadal win another tourney ?

[nehmeth]

SamprasFan was one for the ages. I used to love the back forth with him concert certain poster to still frequent the site.

Asmodeus tormented S_F mercilessly. Some of his posts would leave me in tears from laughing so hard. The one he posted of Sampras_Fan emigrating to Cuba with his Wang computer and canoe paddle atop the hood of a 57 Chevy, was priceless.

 

[Kieran]

Auto-pilot (and whatever his previous account was called), mastoor, samson and Sampras_fan would formulate the official tennis.com/tennisfrontier hall of shame.

I'm kinda pissed that there's no Fed fan on that list. I feel like I'm forgetting someone. Kieran, help me out...

How about, "The Whole Lot of Them?" :snicker

 

[Kieran]

Ricardo was the ultimate fed fan troll... :cover

 

[the AntiPusher]

Auto-pilot (and whatever his previous account was called), mastoor, samson and Sampras_fan would formulate the official tennis.com/tennisfrontier hall of shame.

I'm kinda pissed that there's no Fed fan on that list. I feel like I'm forgetting someone. Kieran, help me out...

There is another one for the hall, whose name started like the name of a state...

yeah, that poster was from the west coast , the west coast of Hades:devil

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Tignor writes about Rafa winning with the help of F^3 and then overreacting. So, Nadalites will at least realize now that it is not detractors saying things and it is reality.

 

[rafanoy1992]

Nehmeth, Riotbeard, Herios, Billie (though admittedly she doesn't grace us with her presence that often), Denisovic, and I'm sure I'm forgetting at least a couple, are pure Djokovic fans (can we count Fiero among them? Ha).

Darth, GSM, britbox, Front, Federberg, and again, I'm sure I'm forgetting at least a couple, are pure Federer fans (as well as pure whoever-Nadal-is-facing-on-the-day) fans. Can we count Fiero?

Kieran, Moxie, tented, Carol, A-P and myself are pure Rafa fans and again, I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple.

Now, I may have missed a few here and there that might tilt things ever so slightly in Nadal fans' favor as far as pure numbers go, but I think it's obvious the difference is quite small. So no, I really don't see how this is a "Nadal board" as far as fan-base goes because this would imply there's a significant Nadal majority, when there really isn't.

However, I'll say that much, this is a "Nadal board" in terms of discussion. These forums are dominated by Nadal conversations, whether positive or negative so it makes it seem like he has the most fans and the most "dlslikers." I think this is just a result of the fact that Novak fans and Fed fans don't mind each other these days, but they don't get along with Rafa fans, and Rafa fans don't get along with anybody.

I rarely post here but you can consider me a pure Nadal fan right?

 

[the AntiPusher]

Tignor writes about Rafa winning with the help of F^3 and then overreacting. So, Nadalites will at least realize now that it is not detractors saying things and it is reality.

I think what Tignor wrote was pretty accurate and I doubt that most Rafa Fans would take issue with anything that he wrote.Let's face it, this has been by far Rafael's worst year on the ATP by a great distance. The hope is that he still have the ability to compete at the highest level and that he has the confidence/mental fortitude of a 14 Grand Slam titlist.

 

[Kieran]

I didn't read it as Tignor saying Rafa "overreacted". In fact, the reaction was in keeping with the significance of the win, and Tignor understood how much the win meant to Rafa, because he says that '“being with calm” is the key to the man’s success, if not his very existence.' Tignor wrote a balanced article, and one that still shows us how far Rafa is off the pace since his comeback at the start of the year...

 

[brokenshoelace]

Tignor writes about Rafa winning with the help of F^3 and then overreacting. So, Nadalites will at least realize now that it is not detractors saying things and it is reality.

You are the king of making a debatable observation at best and treating it as a fact in order to enhance your narrative. Well, Cali is the king, but you're a close second, which is bad enough.

Tignor makes a one-sentence remark about how much the win meant for Nadal judging by his celebration, and directly links it to shooting down any notion of Nadal lacking motivation and your interpretation was that Nadal "overreacted" as if it's a negative.

But you stopped short of comparing to Mike Tyson saying he wants to each Lewis' children so this post marks an improvement.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Nehmeth, Riotbeard, Herios, Billie (though admittedly she doesn't grace us with her presence that often), Denisovic, and I'm sure I'm forgetting at least a couple, are pure Djokovic fans (can we count Fiero among them? Ha).

Darth, GSM, britbox, Front, Federberg, and again, I'm sure I'm forgetting at least a couple, are pure Federer fans (as well as pure whoever-Nadal-is-facing-on-the-day) fans. Can we count Fiero?

Kieran, Moxie, tented, Carol, A-P and myself are pure Rafa fans and again, I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple.

Now, I may have missed a few here and there that might tilt things ever so slightly in Nadal fans' favor as far as pure numbers go, but I think it's obvious the difference is quite small. So no, I really don't see how this is a "Nadal board" as far as fan-base goes because this would imply there's a significant Nadal majority, when there really isn't.

However, I'll say that much, this is a "Nadal board" in terms of discussion. These forums are dominated by Nadal conversations, whether positive or negative so it makes it seem like he has the most fans and the most "dlslikers." I think this is just a result of the fact that Novak fans and Fed fans don't mind each other these days, but they don't get along with Rafa fans, and Rafa fans don't get along with anybody.

I rarely post here but you can consider me a pure Nadal fan right?

You're as pure as they come

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I didn't read it as Tignor saying Rafa "overreacted". In fact, the reaction was in keeping with the significance of the win, and Tignor understood how much the win meant to Rafa, because he says that '“being with calm” is the key to the man’s success, if not his very existence.' Tignor wrote a balanced article, and one that still shows us how far Rafa is off the pace since his comeback at the start of the year...

You were trying to downplay (see your jury is out post) the significance of 60 unforced errors in two sets By F^3 as being crucial to Rafa's win. Tignor clearly states that Rafa won as F^3 made several errors at crucial junctures. The thing is it is so obvious to anyone who watched the match and for those who did not watch the match the stats are crying out loud. In fact, most Nadal fans agree with that. Only you are in denial.

 

[Kieran]

I didn't read it as Tignor saying Rafa "overreacted". In fact, the reaction was in keeping with the significance of the win, and Tignor understood how much the win meant to Rafa, because he says that '“being with calm” is the key to the man’s success, if not his very existence.' Tignor wrote a balanced article, and one that still shows us how far Rafa is off the pace since his comeback at the start of the year...

You were trying to downplay (see your jury is out post) the significance of 60 unforced errors in two sets By F^3 as being crucial to Rafa's win. Tignor clearly states that Rafa won as F^3 made several errors at crucial junctures. The thing is it is so obvious to anyone who watched the match and for those who did not watch the match the stats are crying out loud. In fact, most Nadal fans agree with that. Only you are in denial.

Pay attention: I didn't address the part of your post that refers to FFS. I addressed the part where you claimed that Tignor said that Rafa "over-reacted."

Tignor didn't say this...

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I didn't read it as Tignor saying Rafa "overreacted". In fact, the reaction was in keeping with the significance of the win, and Tignor understood how much the win meant to Rafa, because he says that '“being with calm” is the key to the man’s success, if not his very existence.' Tignor wrote a balanced article, and one that still shows us how far Rafa is off the pace since his comeback at the start of the year...

You were trying to downplay (see your jury is out post) the significance of 60 unforced errors in two sets By F^3 as being crucial to Rafa's win. Tignor clearly states that Rafa won as F^3 made several errors at crucial junctures. The thing is it is so obvious to anyone who watched the match and for those who did not watch the match the stats are crying out loud. In fact, most Nadal fans agree with that. Only you are in denial.

Pay attention: I didn't address the part of your post that refers to FFS. I addressed the part where you claimed that Tignor said that Rafa "over-reacted."

Tignor didn't say this...

Sure, he did not use the phrase "over-reacted". But, no one would in the right mind would interpret Tignor's first paragraph as saying anything other than overreacting.

Let me directly include the first paragraph verbatim below.


" It took him until August, but Rafael Nadal finally won a clay-court title in Europe in 2015. (AP)
Rafael Nadal won an ATP 500 event in Hamburg on Sunday, but he celebrated like it was a Grand Slam. After restraining himself through the handshake with the man he had just beaten, Fabio Fognini, Nadal dropped his racquet, skipped to the center of the court, fell to his knees, threw his head back, and held his arms high over his head triumphantly. "

 

[Front242]

Some fans just can't see what's in front of their eyes.

 

[Carol]

Some fans just can't see what's in front of their eyes.

I would say some 'antis' can't see beyond their noses :nono

 

[Kieran]

You were trying to downplay (see your jury is out post) the significance of 60 unforced errors in two sets By F^3 as being crucial to Rafa's win. Tignor clearly states that Rafa won as F^3 made several errors at crucial junctures. The thing is it is so obvious to anyone who watched the match and for those who did not watch the match the stats are crying out loud. In fact, most Nadal fans agree with that. Only you are in denial.

Pay attention: I didn't address the part of your post that refers to FFS. I addressed the part where you claimed that Tignor said that Rafa "over-reacted."

Tignor didn't say this...

Sure, he did not use the phrase "over-reacted". But, no one would in the right mind would interpret Tignor's first paragraph as saying anything other than overreacting.

Let me directly include the first paragraph verbatim below.


" It took him until August, but Rafael Nadal finally won a clay-court title in Europe in 2015. (AP)
Rafael Nadal won an ATP 500 event in Hamburg on Sunday, but he celebrated like it was a Grand Slam. After restraining himself through the handshake with the man he had just beaten, Fabio Fognini, Nadal dropped his racquet, skipped to the center of the court, fell to his knees, threw his head back, and held his arms high over his head triumphantly. "

Sheesh, getting "proof" from either you or Front for your imaginations is getting problematical. Why don't you just read clearly, and draw an honest conclusion, instead of something that suits your book? Here, I'll add the next bit that you skipped, that provides context to what Tignor is saying.

Rafa, by all appearances, wanted this win badly, and it wasn’t hard to understand why. He had already lost to the less-than-legendary Fognini twice this season. He needs ranking points if he’s going to reach the all-important Top 8 before the US Open. It was his most significant tournament win since the 2014 French Open. And after a couple of down moments at the French Open and Wimbledon, Rafa needed an up.

“This title helps [me] to be a bit more calm,” Nadal said. As every Rafa-watcher knows, “being with calm” is the key to the man’s success, if not his very existence.

“I lost the last two times against [Fognini], so I knew it was going to be a tough one,” Nadal said. “I had some tough moments on the court, but every time I came back and I kept fighting with the right mentality...It’s an important victory for me.”

Now, he reacted strongly to his win, and you might say he over-reacted, given it was only a 500, but it's not an over-reaction given the season he had so far, and the fact that the title "helps [him] to be a bit more calm." In other words, it's very significant, and therefore worth celebrating.

And that's what Tignor says, too...

 

[Carol]

His reaction was very understanding after to lose against anyone on HC, grass and clay and not so badly like to dance after to win a match in Montreal, if not ask Florian Mayer what he thought about it :nono

http://youtu.be/TXP9yTYVaag

 

[Front242]

One is called overreacting, the other is called entertaining the crowd. Novak's match was a first round match.

 

[Kieran]

I remember Novak doing them dances after every match. Well, not every match. He didn't dance after the semi final...

 

[Carol]

I don't think it was funny and entertaining for his opponents :s :dodgy: :-/