Carlos Bernardes Withdrawn for Nadal Matches

[Federberg]

Read my post. I asked "point out even one Rafa fan who has defended his doing this [taking too long between points]." You didn't.

Why on earth should I allow you to frame what I say to suit your purposes? Behave! If you want to challenge me, do it based on what I say, not what you think I"m saying

I'll take that as a concession you can't point one out. Thanks!

If it makes you feel better go right ahead. I merely refuse to allow you to make inferences about the things I say. You're being obtuse again. Seeing facts that are clearly not in evidence. If that's what gets you going I salute you sir

 

[Front242]

There are tons of other things he does wrong that you all defend, besides Broken who is pretty much the only one who admits wrongdoing.

This is false. Read Riotbeard's acknowledgement that Rafa fans admit to his wrongdoings. Why would he have posted that if Broken is "pretty much the only one who admits wrongdoing"? Or are Novak fans incapable of perceiving this clearly, and only certain Fed fans can see the truth?

I said they admit to time wasting but have been strangely silent on the issue at hand. So I would not say that so far in this thread "Rafa fans admit to [all] his wrongdoings," but time wasting is indisputable. The question at hand is one of moral philosophy. Should Rafa be allowed to not be officiated by those who enforce the main rule he breaks? And, how do you interpret on a character level the fact that he thought he should be able to ask that (and was granted it)?

That's easy. If Rafa were a Cockney gangster his name would be Oliver Khan

 

[tented]

^ Maybe we both just have better things to do than succumb to this silly tirade.

How many posts in this thread are yours?

 

[tented]

Why on earth should I allow you to frame what I say to suit your purposes? Behave! If you want to challenge me, do it based on what I say, not what you think I"m saying

I'll take that as a concession you can't point one out. Thanks!

If it makes you feel better go right ahead. I merely refuse to allow you to make inferences about the things I say. You're being obtuse again. Seeing facts that are clearly not in evidence. If that's what gets you going I salute you sir

Oh, behave. You're going too far now. :snicker

 

[nehmeth]

Federberg, you've exposed the truth. Carol is actually a common account that Moxie, tented, Kieran, A-P and myself use. Therefore, she represents ALL Nadal fans.

:lolz: :laydownlaughing :snicker

Ah Broken, this is one of those posts that makes me appreciate you so very much. My stomach hurts from laughing. Thanks man.

 

[Front242]

^ Maybe we both just have better things to do than succumb to this silly tirade.

How many posts in this thread are yours?

2? I dunno. Just 'cos I type something doesn't mean it's true so probably more than that.

 

[Kirijax]

I smell another timeout coming... :cover

 

[nehmeth]

Stepping away from the keyboard and taking a moment to dance.

 

[brokenshoelace]

I said past and present. Moxie was a mod before and is a Nadal fan.

You clearly implied this thread was closed because it was casting Nadal in a bad light, despite clear evidence to the contrary. Own up to it.

I've no idea why they closed it. Only they can say why it was closed but either way you don't often see non Nadal related threads closed unless it's about the unspeakable doping thread. That **** is dope, man.

Kskate explained in her post why the thread was closed when she closed it.

 

[brokenshoelace]

This is almost too easy... :snicker

Federberg, you've exposed the truth. Carol is actually a common account that Moxie, tented, Kieran, A-P and myself use. Therefore, she represents ALL Nadal fans.

Jesus this place has become unbearable.

I know you speak English, so I'll assume this post is just pointless sarcasm. Point out where I specified the Nadal fans I was talking about?? Carol is a Nadal fan unless I'm mistaken. Try not to think everything is about you mate. You'll be happier. Perhaps you should have been the one to set Carol right, but you didn't so the rest of us did

...and the rest of you said Nadal fanS are defensive. Nadal fanS can't admit he does anything wrong. Nadal fanS think he's a saint. Notice the "S." Plural. Don't get cute.

 

[Federberg]

Federberg, you've exposed the truth. Carol is actually a common account that Moxie, tented, Kieran, A-P and myself use. Therefore, she represents ALL Nadal fans.

Jesus this place has become unbearable.

I know you speak English, so I'll assume this post is just pointless sarcasm. Point out where I specified the Nadal fans I was talking about?? Carol is a Nadal fan unless I'm mistaken. Try not to think everything is about you mate. You'll be happier. Perhaps you should have been the one to set Carol right, but you didn't so the rest of us did

...and the rest of you said Nadal fanS are defensive. Nadal fanS can't admit he does anything wrong. Nadal fanS think he's a saint. Notice the "S." Plural. Don't get cute.

What is it with people today and an imperfect grasp of the English language? Plurality doesn't mean all. :nono

 

[DarthFed]

I haven't seen Nadal fans defend or deny the timewasting. I have seen a few on this thread defend the fact that he is able to dictate who umps his matches and that's ridiculous.

I totally disagree with BS's assertion that he has earned the right to do anything like this. No athlete in any sport should be able to dictate who does and doesn't ump their matches. Successful athletes have earned more privileges, I agree with that, but those privileges are money and more influence on things like the schedule and point system (if we are talking tennis). Having a player dictate who is the chair ump is ridiculous. I doubt even Jordan would've had that power or even had the balls to try it and that's saying something. And it is especially retarded when we consider that the reason Rafa wants Carlos gone is due to him actually calling it RIGHT. It'd be one thing if Nadal was on the receiving end of a bunch of bad calls from Carlos spread across multiple matches. If that was the case the player might be able to argue that having the same bad ump in his matches could affect him mentally. Instead he's saying that having someone actually enforce the rules of the game is affecting him mentally. Tough shit!

The petty puta is pretty much saying the rules don't apply to him and the weaklings that "run" tennis are catering to him. If you allow Rafa to determine the chair ump what's the next thing they will allow him to do?

 

[Carol]

I know you speak English, so I'll assume this post is just pointless sarcasm. Point out where I specified the Nadal fans I was talking about?? Carol is a Nadal fan unless I'm mistaken. Try not to think
everything is about you mate. You'll be happier. Perhaps you should have been the one to set Carol right, but you didn't so the rest of us did

Pssss, it's funny that you and Front242 are talking about "fans and fangirlsh" when reading all your post it seems that you would be the winners of a Roger's fans contest :lolz: :laydownlaughing

We are admittedly fans of his tennis. We make no bones about that But we have both been known to step up and criticise Roger about things we don't agree with. Liking the mans tennis doesn't excuse tennis players from behaviour we don't agree with. Can you say the same?

I can say what! come on, I still haven't see both of you critizing Roger, on the contrary the only think you know to do is to critic Rafa which means that both of you are clearly a huge Federer"fangirlsh/fanboysh" so far.
One thing is to be a tennis fan or X player fan and another thing is to waste the time trying to put down
to someone else with any excuse and obviously we know why, ridiculous react

 

[Carol]

I haven't seen Nadal fans defend or deny the timewasting. I have seen a few on this thread defend the fact that he is able to dictate who umps his matches and that's ridiculous.

I totally disagree with BS's assertion that he has earned the right to do anything like this. No athlete in any sport should be able to dictate who does and doesn't ump their matches. Successful athletes have earned more privileges, I agree with that, but those privileges are money and more influence on things like the schedule and point system (if we are talking tennis). Having a player dictate who is the chair ump is ridiculous. I doubt even Jordan would've had that power or even had the balls to try it and that's saying something. And it is especially retarded when we consider that the reason Rafa wants Carlos gone is due to him actually calling it RIGHT. It'd be one thing if Nadal was on the receiving end of a bunch of bad calls from Carlos spread across multiple matches. If that was the case the player might be able to argue that having the same bad ump in his matches could affect him mentally. Instead he's saying that having someone actually enforce the rules of the game is affecting him mentally. Tough crap!

The petty puta is pretty much saying the rules don't apply to him and the weaklings that "run" tennis


are catering to him. If you allow Rafa to determine the chair ump what's the next thing they will allow him to do?

Do you know what 'puta' means '? don't insult and learn to respect who deserves it like your fav respects to Rafa more than to any another player bc he knows him much better than you. Don't react like another "fanboysh" and try to put more attention what your fav Mr.perfect does....
I don't need to insult to anyone to cover the flaws of my fav like you do

 

[Billie]

I don't know...I tried to skip over all unrelated stuff in this thread and my conclusion is that I am not really that surprised or out raged with Rafa's request. I guess when you have been discriminated against before you kind of think: there are worse things than this.:snicker

But at least one thing is clear: Rafa did request Carlos to be exempt from his matches (some needed confirmation about this and Rafa saying it should be enough?)...even though he says he is a good umpire.:lolz:

I think that all fans try to make excuses for their guys, no matter who it is. Some do it more subtly, some are more open about it but at the end of the day, it is human nature I think.

And some of the posts made me laugh....not all Nadal fans are the same....well guess what: not all Fed fans are the same.........and not ALL Nole fans are the same as well!!!! lot

 

[Billie]

I smell another timeout coming... :cover

:laydownlaughing I want Front on my side...he must have big muscles as he trains hard so he can probably throw things far.

 

[I.Haychew]

Apparently Djokovic was asked about the matter today and he is reported to have said: " i remember umpires i wasn't happy with but i never thought of requesting them to change. It is not fair for them".

The question now being asked is, since the ATP is to all intents and purposes it would seem, allowing one player to determine if an umpire stands in his match, would they (ITF in this case), acquiesce if Djokovic asks specifically for Bernardes to do the QF match? After all, according to the person arguing "a real world occurrence", Djokovic is World #1 and surely supercedes Nadal in the pecking order

Methinks 14 to 8 slam count supersedes present #1. That said, I am positive Novak would never do that bajana. That's just not how he rolls. :nono

?... why is Novak commentating on Rafa business.

Because he was asked?

 

[I.Haychew]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/rafaelnadal/11631798/French-Open-2015-Rafael-Nadal-admits-demanding-ban-on-umpire-Carlos-Bernardes-following-Rio-Open-dispute.html

Is this a joke? Are we to actually believe that Folks put his shorts on backwards? My questions are...Did he put his shorts on backwards before the match? When did he come to the realization that he put his shorts on backwards? If he put his shorts on backwards before the match, would he not notice it during warm-ups? At what point during the match did he realize that he was pulling his crotch out of his ass? I don't know about you guys, but this seems ass-backwards to me!

 

[Kirijax]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/rafaelnadal/11631798/French-Open-2015-Rafael-Nadal-admits-demanding-ban-on-umpire-Carlos-Bernardes-following-Rio-Open-dispute.html

Is this a joke? Are we to actually believe that Folks put his shorts on backwards? My questions are...Did he put his shorts on backwards before the match? When did he come to the realization that he put his shorts on backwards? If he put his shorts on backwards before the match, would he not notice it during warm-ups? At what point during the match did he realize that he was pulling his crotch out of his ass? I don't know about you guys, but this seems ass-backwards to me!

Happens all the time! My son does it every day! He's only four but that's not what's important here.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Federer and Wawrinka weigh in on the Rafa-Carlos Controversy