Wimbledon Day 7: Monday, July 1 - Order of Play

[Denis]

I had the feeling one of those backhands by Murray on 5-4 was out.

Anyway, Murray is playing really well, amazing player, just can't stand his on court antics, his mom and the Wimbledon crowd.

 

[nehmeth]

I hope Murray is alright.

uzzled :laydownlaughing

Andy, remember this formula.

Lost point - he limps and grabs his body parts
Point won - fist pump and celebration.

It doesn't deviate.

 

[Denis]

The tower of Tandil through in straights. Boy, this really is herios' day.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

nice work..del potro beats dreary seppi in three but wasted 3 match points at 40-0 but a 4th was enough.

jmdp first Wimbledon qf: murray is nearly in the quarterfinal, looks like youzhny isn't very fit, he is turning as red as a gibbons bottom..or is that a baboons bottom..

the fun continues on court one with the The Big Bird vs Tomic the Tank Engine..........

 

[herios]

herios, I like David Ferrer. But he IS beatable and it is hard seeing him beat any of the "Big Four" in a Final, except for perhaps Andy Murray and a declined Federer. But he's clearly the "best of the rest" and, one could argue, now the 4th best player in the world, at least if and when Roger starts playing better. But I would love to see Ferrer win a Slam - what a great thing for tennis and, I think, would mark the end of the FedalDjokurray Hegemony.

That will not happen. Ferrer will be in a wheelchair the day Murray and Djokovic start losing a step. He is 5 years older. He will have to depend on upsets to win one. A lot of upsets. Granted if that happens, he is likely to win it.

I agree with the gist of this but don't be surprised if Andy and Novak start losing a step as soon as next year when they'll be turning 27, a very common age for players to lose half a step (see "Federer, Roger" and seemingly "Nadal, Rafael").

I'm not saying that Ferrer would be the new player to beat, mind you, just that at some point there's going to be a crack in the "Hegemony" and we'll likely look back on it as a Slam won by someone else. While obviously Djokovic and Murray are the clear favorites, perhaps this tournament isn't done with surprises yet. But while I could see Ferrer beating Andy, if and only if Andy had a head-case match, I just can't see him beating Djokovic under almost any circumstances. So yeah, it would require some upsets.

This reads as though you're reaching to cover yourself (imo). Ferrer is not going to beat Murray on grass unless Andy falls and breaks his leg. The crack in the hegemony as you call it obviously is that Roger is slowing down and is not his dependable self in the slams the way he used to be. Murray and Djokovic will have to lose more than a step for the other guys to have a chance.

I just love being accused of disingenuity! What you perceive as me "reaching to cover myself" is just me being open to possibilities and not having a hard opinion either way.

I don't think the hegemony is being cracked, except as you say because Roger (and perhaps Rafa) is showing obvious signs of decline.

My point is simply that at some point Novak and Andy are going to lose a half-step. It happens to all players, and most around age 27. I've been suggesting that we'll see that next year from them, but that their dominance won't really start being challenged until 2015 or so. But if Ferrer--or anyone--was able to win Wimbledon, to me it might be the tournament that we look back as the early signs of the hegemony breaking up - Roger and Rafa out in the first two rounds and someone else winning it all.

John MacEnroe already called the "change of the guards" yesterday, believing that Djokovic-Murray will take decisively from here on the men's tennis hegemony.
I do believe the "top 4 dominance" is over as it was seen the last few years, we are just waiting to see how it turns out by the end of the year to have a clearer picture.

 

[Denis]

Herios, you don't like Haas too do you?

 

[herios]

The tower of Tandil through in straights. Boy, this really is herios' day.

I am not calling it, until "you know who" wins as well

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Herios, you don't like Haas too do you?

I like his story, but not nearly as much as who he is playing.

 

[Andrew William]

I hope Murray is alright.

uzzled :laydownlaughing

Andy, remember this formula.

Lost point - he limps and grabs his body parts
Point won - fist pump and celebration.

It doesn't deviate.

Yup, he fooled me on that one! Glad he's alright.

 

[Denis]

The tower of Tandil through in straights. Boy, this really is herios' day.

I am not calling it, until "you know who" wins as well

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Herios, you don't like Haas too do you?

I like his story, but not nearly as much as who he is playing.

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Ok good!

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

oh look murray wins the second set and all of a sudden his hip and leg manage to heal themselves..

...what magical goings on.

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4 straight games for the mad doctor. Wow!

Hopefully DP has enough left in the tank to knock the Ferret out

Amusing how many of you rooting against David.
If JM takes him out, I won't get upset, because he is one of my core guys.
I am rooting for David only as a contrarian when I am seeing so much adversity.

Well actually it is only me and Darth that don't root for Ferrer. Everyone else here likes him. uzzled

im not keen on ferrer..hope del potro destroys him in the qf.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Youzhny reminds me of Woody Harrelson.

 

[Andrew William]

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

or Youznhy looks like that fat bloke in 'Full Metal Jacket' who blew away the Sgt in the marine barrack toilets with a shotgun. :idea:

 

[Andrew William]

Whose bh slice is better, Fed or Murray? I love them both.

 

[El Dude]

Tomic is fun to watch. He looks so smooth out there, with a lot of different shots. I love his one-handed backhand down the line that curves outward.

 

[Andrew William]

Well we know Murray has one of the best running forehands in the business. Murray is through in straights! Onward!

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What do you guys think about Murray Vs Verdasco? Can Fernando give the Scot any trouble whatsoever?

 

[El Dude]

I don't think so, Andrew.

 

[Andrew William]

I tend to agree. Should be interesting though.

 

[El Dude]

As much as I'd like to see Fernando do well, look at who he's defeated so far: de Schwepper, Gulbis, Benneteau, Malisse. Some good players there but no one close to an elite player.

 

[Andrew William]

Some awesome match ups to come. What a great day for Tennis eh?