Wimbledon Day 6: Saturday, June 28 - Order of Play

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Front242 said:
You keep insisting I can't leave him alone. You truly are a very sad individual and 100% biased. Watch the Madrid match is simply all I'm saying 'cos clearly yes, you do very much underestimate Nishikori. Nishikori has beaten Ferrer the last 2 times they played too. Do some research and stop with the stupid posts.

http://tennis.matchstat.com/Compare/8806/673/10828

Madrid match means NOTHING!

There, I fixed for you. I did watched the match, I also watched Ferrer, Niko, and Novak school Rafa on clay but tell me who won RG at the end of the day?

I would be worry of Grigor for example, even Tsonga but the fragile Japanese? Keep the wishful thinking.

BTW, I'm 100% right 99% of the time :nono
 

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nehmeth said:
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huntingyou said:
you guys are overrating nishikori........I take a QF match on any slam before Raonic.

the only overrating comes with his fitness and nothing more.

:puzzled Well, that's a pretty big part of tennis.

Nishi's has not been fully healthy for some time and is probably still carrying some niggling injury or another. I'd rather see the ugly Orc Raonic go through and face Ralf than a broken down little fella.

Sure I agree and hence that's the only issue where he's not to be feared as much. But when he gets stronger/fitter, watch out. And that applies to all the top players. He's great to watch and I hope he improves his strength and fitness a lot.
 

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rafanoy1992 said:
Huntingyou, in fairness, Nishikori has given Nadal all sorts of trouble this year. That includes the match in Australia this year.

There is a reason I am cautiously optimistic about Nadal because both Nishikori and Raonic can make Nadal very nervous.

Nadal won the match in Australia with a huge blister in his hands...not sure how the help his case.

Raonic? Yes...I don't want see him...is still grass and he can hold to TB and make a match of few points.
 

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huntingyou said:
Front242 said:
You keep insisting I can't leave him alone. You truly are a very sad individual and 100% biased. Watch the Madrid match is simply all I'm saying 'cos clearly yes, you do very much underestimate Nishikori. Nishikori has beaten Ferrer the last 2 times they played too. Do some research and stop with the stupid posts.

http://tennis.matchstat.com/Compare/8806/673/10828

Madrid match means NOTHING!

There, I fixed for you. I did watched the match, I also watched Ferrer, Niko, and Novak school Rafa on clay but tell me who won RG at the end of the day?

I would be worry of Grigor for example, even Tsonga but the fragile Japanese? Keep the wishful thinking.

BTW, I'm 100% right 99% of the time :nono

Pretty big headed to say you're right 99% of the time. You must be rich so with all your amazing betting predictions. I'd never claim such a thing 'cos it's just dumb. Have there been any indicatons of Nishikori's fitness being poor thus far? I don't believe so. Anyway, he may not even make it to face Nadal yet. Oooh, I typed Nadal again. There a 2nd time. I'm fixated with him! :nono
 

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tented said:
Nehmeth, have you heard anything new about Novak's shoulder? I read he had an ultrasound, and it looked OK, so that's good news.

Haven't really checked tented. When he did the stupid Becker dive and hurt himself, I just rolled my eyes. They tested his shoulder extensively during the injury time out and he wasn't wincing at all, so I wasn't worried.

I'm more concerned about facing Cilic. He and Berdy played an excellent match. Cilic under Goran's tutelage is flattening out his first serve. While the percentage in has dropped somewhat, the points he's winning when it lands have gone way up.

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/stats/day12/1304ms.html

Check out the ratio of winners/ufe's for both of them.
 

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Front242 said:
huntingyou said:
Front242 said:
You keep insisting I can't leave him alone. You truly are a very sad individual and 100% biased. Watch the Madrid match is simply all I'm saying 'cos clearly yes, you do very much underestimate Nishikori. Nishikori has beaten Ferrer the last 2 times they played too. Do some research and stop with the stupid posts.

http://tennis.matchstat.com/Compare/8806/673/10828

Madrid match means NOTHING!

There, I fixed for you. I did watched the match, I also watched Ferrer, Niko, and Novak school Rafa on clay but tell me who won RG at the end of the day?

I would be worry of Grigor for example, even Tsonga but the fragile Japanese? Keep the wishful thinking.

BTW, I'm 100% right 99% of the time :nono

Pretty big headed to say you're right 99% of the time. You must be rich so with all your amazing betting predictions. I'd ever claim such a thing 'cos it's just dumb. Have there been any indicatons of Nishikori's fitness being poor thus far? I don't believe so. Anyway, he may not even make it to face Nadal yet. Oooh, I typed Nadal again. There a 2nd time. I'm fixated with him! :nono

I'm talking tennis, not fitness........I'm not worry. Make a big bet on him IF the match take place and become rich cause the odds will be no less than +600
 

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Front242 said:
nehmeth said:
Front242 said:
huntingyou said:
you guys are overrating nishikori........I take a QF match on any slam before Raonic.

the only overrating comes with his fitness and nothing more.

:puzzled Well, that's a pretty big part of tennis.

Nishi's has not been fully healthy for some time and is probably still carrying some niggling injury or another. I'd rather see the ugly Orc Raonic go through and face Ralf than a broken down little fella.

Sure I agree and hence that's the only issue where he's not to be feared as much. But when he gets stronger/fitter, watch out. And that applies to all the top players. He's great to watch and I hope he improves his strength and fitness a lot.

(imo), Kei is always going to be injury prone, just by the way he's built and while strength training may help somewhat, I don't see it fixing the problem. I said this three years ago and I'm more persuaded of it now than before.
 

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huntingyou said:
Front242 said:
huntingyou said:
Front242 said:
You keep insisting I can't leave him alone. You truly are a very sad individual and 100% biased. Watch the Madrid match is simply all I'm saying 'cos clearly yes, you do very much underestimate Nishikori. Nishikori has beaten Ferrer the last 2 times they played too. Do some research and stop with the stupid posts.

http://tennis.matchstat.com/Compare/8806/673/10828

Madrid match means NOTHING!

There, I fixed for you. I did watched the match, I also watched Ferrer, Niko, and Novak school Rafa on clay but tell me who won RG at the end of the day?

I would be worry of Grigor for example, even Tsonga but the fragile Japanese? Keep the wishful thinking.

BTW, I'm 100% right 99% of the time :nono

Pretty big headed to say you're right 99% of the time. You must be rich so with all your amazing betting predictions. I'd ever claim such a thing 'cos it's just dumb. Have there been any indicatons of Nishikori's fitness being poor thus far? I don't believe so. Anyway, he may not even make it to face Nadal yet. Oooh, I typed Nadal again. There a 2nd time. I'm fixated with him! :nono

I'm talking tennis, not fitness........I'm not worry. Make a big bet on him IF the match take place and become rich cause the odds will be no less than +600

Well I'm in full agreement going by past examples that Nadal is fitter but hey, actually, his knee and back are worse than a 90 year old to some fans so who knows! I made loads of money on Brown beating him in Halle so no more bets. €27,000 from a €500 bet. That'll do for now.
 

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nehmeth said:
tented said:
Nehmeth, have you heard anything new about Novak's shoulder? I read he had an ultrasound, and it looked OK, so that's good news.

Haven't really checked tented. When he did the stupid Becker dive and hurt himself, I just rolled my eyes. They tested his shoulder extensively during the injury time out and he wasn't wincing at all, so I wasn't worried.

I'm more concerned about facing Cilic. He and Berdy played an excellent match. Cilic under Goran's tutelage is flattening out his first serve. While the percentage in has dropped somewhat, the points he's winning when it lands have gone way up.

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/stats/day12/1304ms.html

Check out the ratio of winners/ufe's for both of them.

A few great numbers there: 20 aces, 81% 1st serve points won, and, as you point out, the 2-1 winner/UFE ratio.
 

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Front242 said:
Well I'm in full agreement going by past examples that Nadal is fitter but hey, actually, his knee and back are worse than a 90 year old to some fans so who knows! I made loads of money on Brown beating him in Halle so no more bets. €27,000 from a €500 bet. That'll do for now.

I would have bet on Brown too. Actually I would have bet on any underdog in the first couple rounds of any tournament...that's how you me money right?

My point stands and obviously you are not confident enough on Nishi pulling the upset if it takes place.
 

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huntingyou said:
Front242 said:
Well I'm in full agreement going by past examples that Nadal is fitter but hey, actually, his knee and back are worse than a 90 year old to some fans so who knows! I made loads of money on Brown beating him in Halle so no more bets. €27,000 from a €500 bet. That'll do for now.

I would have bet on Brown too. Actually I would have bet on any underdog in the first couple rounds of any tournament...that's how you me money right?

My point stands and obviously you are not confident enough on Nishi pulling the upset if it takes place.

If you give me 54/1 odds, I'll bet with you. :)
 

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These matches have been officially cancelled:

Wawrinka/Istomin
Lopez/Isner

And all but one doubles match.
 

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huntingyou said:
Front242 said:
Well I'm in full agreement going by past examples that Nadal is fitter but hey, actually, his knee and back are worse than a 90 year old to some fans so who knows! I made loads of money on Brown beating him in Halle so no more bets. €27,000 from a €500 bet. That'll do for now.

I would have bet on Brown too. Actually I would have bet on any underdog in the first couple rounds of any tournament...that's how you me money right?

My point stands and obviously you are not confident enough on Nishi pulling the upset if it takes place.

No I'm not confident on it but you are definitely underestimating how good he can be is all I'm saying. Maybe next year with the extra week Nadal might not fall so easily in the tune up events on grass but past years it's been a good bet alright. Best betting for slams imo anyway is set betting. Much safer. Outcome of match 4 sets, for example. Means either guy can win in 4 and you win and that's quite a large probability much of the time.
 

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tented said:
nehmeth said:
I'm more concerned about facing Cilic. He and Berdy played an excellent match. Cilic under Goran's tutelage is flattening out his first serve. While the percentage in has dropped somewhat, the points he's winning when it lands have gone way up.

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/stats/day12/1304ms.html

Check out the ratio of winners/ufe's for both of them.

A few great numbers there: 20 aces, 81% 1st serve points won, and, as you point out, the 2-1 winner/UFE ratio.

Exactly. The unsettling thing is that Berdych was way ahead in winners to ufe's as well. :puzzled
 

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britbox said:
huntingyou said:
Front242 said:
Well I'm in full agreement going by past examples that Nadal is fitter but hey, actually, his knee and back are worse than a 90 year old to some fans so who knows! I made loads of money on Brown beating him in Halle so no more bets. €27,000 from a €500 bet. That'll do for now.

I would have bet on Brown too. Actually I would have bet on any underdog in the first couple rounds of any tournament...that's how you me money right?

My point stands and obviously you are not confident enough on Nishi pulling the upset if it takes place.

If you give me 54/1 odds, I'll bet with you. :)

That's the beauty of tennis........underdogs with little investment can pay out big and it's actually a "safe" bet under the right conditions. Like Brown/Nadal or any player against Nadal at Halle/Queen
 

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rafanoy1992 said:
Huntingyou, in fairness, Nishikori has given Nadal all sorts of trouble this year. That includes the match in Australia this year.

There is a reason I am cautiously optimistic about Nadal because both Nishikori and Raonic can make Nadal very nervous.

The match in Australia was a straight set win, and the Madrid match was not a slam. Murray also came quite close to beating Rafa, in Rome, but that didn't exactly help him out at the French. Rafa always plays much better in the second week here than the early rounds. Had he met Nishikori earlier I'd say there might be cause for concern but as of now, I cannot see him scoring an upset if they meet.
 

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1972Murat said:
Giraldo has improved a lot and has played tons of tennis this year. And he likes offensive tennis. I hope Roger brings the A game today.

Here we go.

Thanks for your post or I wouldn't have known it had started. :cool: Thought the women's match was still on. Gone to the sitting room to watch it on BBC HD. Glad to finally watch some tennis HD. Looks great. Sky Sports is a rip off so I only really get to watch Wimbledon in HD and the difference is huge when you see choose a different match that's on SD instead.