Wimbledon Day 4: Thursday, June 26 - Order of Play

[Fiero425]

He played well alright and I remember him being labeled a clown for no apparent reason in 2012 for playing the best match he'd ever played and yesterday he was one point from 2 sets to zip again.

I remember him being labelled a clown again last night too, by DarthFed.

It's 1000 times worse when the fanbase of the player who lost are so ungracious as to label the guy who beat their favourite player a clown.

I agree.

To tented, Moxie: I don't know if the "clown" word was used, but both Soderling and Rosol were indeed on the receiving end on some harsh words from Nadal fans that were along those lines.

Typical hypocrisy I guess! uzzled :nono :angel: Hard to believe that words from months or years ago can follow you! I know I have more of a life! I couldn't possibly remember half that stuff!

 

[tented]

He played well alright and I remember him being labeled a clown for no apparent reason in 2012 for playing the best match he'd ever played and yesterday he was one point from 2 sets to zip again.

I remember him being labelled a clown again last night too, by DarthFed.

It's 1000 times worse when the fanbase of the player who lost are so ungracious as to label the guy who beat their favourite player a clown.

I agree.

To tented, Moxie: I don't know if the "clown" word was used, but both Soderling and Rosol were indeed on the receiving end on some harsh words from Nadal fans that were along those lines.

My memory isn't the greatest, but I certainly remember things being said about Rosol (I never mentioned Soderling). What I don't remember, however, were Rafa fans calling Rosol a clown -- a baseless accusation by Front, who has made other seemingly conveniently incorrect statements about Rafa and/or his fans (4 MTOs, etc., etc. -- you know ....)

 

[nehmeth]

I believe it was huntingyou called him a clown actually on the old forum.

:snigger

huntingyou called a number of players (and posters) clowns.

 

[Front242]

I believe it was huntingyou called him a clown actually on the old forum.

:snigger

huntingyou called a number of players (and posters) clowns.

Indeed :clap

 

[Front242]

He played well alright and I remember him being labeled a clown for no apparent reason in 2012 for playing the best match he'd ever played and yesterday he was one point from 2 sets to zip again.

I remember him being labelled a clown again last night too, by DarthFed.

It's 1000 times worse when the fanbase of the player who lost are so ungracious as to label the guy who beat their favourite player a clown.

I agree.

To tented, Moxie: I don't know if the "clown" word was used, but both Soderling and Rosol were indeed on the receiving end on some harsh words from Nadal fans that were along those lines.

My memory isn't the greatest, but I certainly remember things being said about Rosol (I never mentioned Soderling). What I don't remember, however, were Rafa fans calling Rosol a clown -- a baseless accusation by Front, who has made other seemingly conveniently incorrect statements about Rafa and/or his fans (4 MTOs, etc., etc. -- you know ....)

Clearly no your memory isn't the greatest or selective 'cos it's Nadal fans who are being discussed as bad guys. And it's also not baseless just 'cos you can't remember. Soderling and Rosol were both called clowns when they beat Nadal. Btw, you changed your tune pretty quickly from telling me I made it up here to "I certainly remember things being said about Rosol" and then go on to tell me I make baseless comments. Huh? "No one called him a clown, Front. You're just making that up." See below.

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2617&pid=113127#pid113127

Also see nehmeth's post here.

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2617&pid=113209#pid113209

 

[tented]

Here's the part of your post which began this:

He played well alright and I remember him being labeled a clown for no apparent reason in 2012 for playing the best match he'd ever played.

In other words, 2012. Not yesterday. When I asked you to tell me who said it in 2012, you claimed HY. When I pointed out HY wasn't even around then, you switched and pointed your finger at another user -- an indisputable demonstration that your memory of this supposed incident isn't correct. And if you don't even remember who said it, how is anyone to believe what you claim he said?

This isn't the first time recently you've made claims which suit your anti-Nadal agenda, but have been proven wrong. (Remember the claim of four MTOs? That a medical procedure was banned when in fact it wasn't? That Rafa took a MTO in the Haase match, but he didn't? Etc, etc.) And now it's HY supposedly having called Rosol a clown in 2012, when HY wasn't even around.

There's a pattern here. You've literally made stuff up, then typed it into the forum. That's called spreading lies. I'm disappointed, because I thought this was beneath you.

 

[Front242]

Here's the part of your post which began this:

He played well alright and I remember him being labeled a clown for no apparent reason in 2012 for playing the best match he'd ever played.

In other words, 2012. Not yesterday. When I asked you to tell me who said it in 2012, you claimed HY. When I pointed out HY wasn't even around then, you switched and pointed your finger at another user -- an indisputable demonstration that your memory of this supposed incident isn't correct. And if you don't even remember who said it, how is anyone to believe what you claim he said?

This isn't the first time recently you've made claims which suit your anti-Nadal agenda, but have been proven wrong. (Remember the claim of four MTOs? That a medical procedure was banned when in fact it wasn't? That Rafa took a MTO in the Haase match, but he didn't? Etc, etc.) And now it's HY supposedly having called Rosol a clown in 2012, when HY wasn't even around.

There's a pattern here. You've literally made stuff up, then typed it into the forum. That's called spreading lies. I'm disappointed, because I thought this was beneath you.

Sigh. You're hilarious. nehmeth has already backed me up saying huntingyou called many players and posters clowns. And Broken has already backed me up but yet you continue to act like I'm making it up. Seriously, wth man? Get a grip and admit you're wrong. You're the one who admitted you can't even remember what you said yesterday and the proof is one page before this. You said I made it up and today you said actually you remember stuff being said about Rosol. Give up. You lost. Who's talking about MTOs here btw? You realize you can't win this and that you're outright wrong and you're going off on a stupid pointless tangent to divert the fact that you're wrong eventhough two regular posters (nehmeth and BS) have backed me up. It's not a big deal but yes, Nadal fans called Soderling and Rosol a clown when they beat Nadal. And btw it's not spreading lies simply 'cos you have a poor memory!

 

[tented]

Here's the part of your post which began this:

He played well alright and I remember him being labeled a clown for no apparent reason in 2012 for playing the best match he'd ever played.

In other words, 2012. Not yesterday. When I asked you to tell me who said it in 2012, you claimed HY. When I pointed out HY wasn't even around then, you switched and pointed your finger at another user -- an indisputable demonstration that your memory of this supposed incident isn't correct. And if you don't even remember who said it, how is anyone to believe what you claim he said?

This isn't the first time recently you've made claims which suit your anti-Nadal agenda, but have been proven wrong. (Remember the claim of four MTOs? That a medical procedure was banned when in fact it wasn't? That Rafa took a MTO in the Haase match, but he didn't? Etc, etc.) And now it's HY supposedly having called Rosol a clown in 2012, when HY wasn't even around.

There's a pattern here. You've literally made stuff up, then typed it into the forum. That's called spreading lies. I'm disappointed, because I thought this was beneath you.

Sigh. You're hilarious. nehmeth has already backed me up saying huntingyou called many players and posters clowns. And Broken has already backed me up but yet you continue to act like I'm making it up. Seriously, wth man? Get a grip and admit you're wrong. You're the one who admitted you can't even remember what you said yesterday and the proof is one page before this. You said I made it up and today you said actually you remember stuff being said about Rosol. Give up. You lost. Who's talking about MTOs here btw? You realize you can't win this and that you're outright wrong and you're going off on a stupid pointless tangent to divert the fact that you're wrong eventhough two regular posters (nehmeth and BS) have backed me up. It's not a big deal but yes, Nadal fans called Soderling and Rosol a clown when they beat Nadal.

Front, at no point did I say I couldn't remember what I wrote yesterday. I'll point it out again: this began with you mentioning 2012, not yesterday.

 

[Front242]

Well I'll put it to you again that you don't remember yesterday. Your first comment saying I made this up from yesterday.

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2617&pid=113127#pid113127

And now today...

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2617&pid=113206#pid113206

 

[tented]

Well I'll put it to you again that you don't remember yesterday. Your first comment saying I made this up from yesterday.

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2617&pid=113127#pid113127

And now today...

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2617&pid=113206#pid113206

You're quoting your own post which uses the date 2012, yet claiming I'm talking about yesterday, even though I've told you now multiple times I'm not.

 

[Garro]

Sigh. You're hilarious. nehmeth has already backed me up saying huntingyou called many players and posters clowns. And Broken has already backed me up but yet you continue to act like I'm making it up. Seriously, wth man? Get a grip and admit you're wrong. You're the one who admitted you can't even remember what you said yesterday and the proof is one page before this. You said I made it up and today you said actually you remember stuff being said about Rosol. Give up. You lost. Who's talking about MTOs here btw? You realize you can't win this and that you're outright wrong and you're going off on a stupid pointless tangent to divert the fact that you're wrong eventhough two regular posters (nehmeth and BS) have backed me up. It's not a big deal but yes, Nadal fans called Soderling and Rosol a clown when they beat Nadal. And btw it's not spreading lies simply 'cos you have a poor memory!

Front, you said that HuntingYou called Rosol a clown on the old forum when Rafa lost, and as Tented pointed out, HuntingYou wasn't posting there at that time. So he could not have said it there. You didn't make anything up, because you said "I believe", but you were still incorrect on that specific point.

 

[Front242]

Well I'll put it to you again that you don't remember yesterday. Your first comment saying I made this up from yesterday.

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2617&pid=113127#pid113127

And now today...

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2617&pid=113206#pid113206

You're quoting your own post which uses the date 2012, yet claiming I'm talking about yesterday, even though I've told you now multiple times I'm not.

Huh? Do you me to paste the text instead? Fine. Here. This is pathetic btw!

Front242 Wrote:

(Today 02:48 PM)tented Wrote:

(Today 07:15 AM)Front242 Wrote: He played well alright and I remember him being labeled a clown for no apparent reason in 2012 for playing the best match he'd ever played and yesterday he was one point from 2 sets to zip again. So much for the easy straight sets win many predicted. The age tennis players are still playing till these days, he still has time to get more consistent and make another statement yet.


No one called him a clown, Front. You're just making that up.


I'm not making anything up tented, I'm talking about 2012 not yesterday.


So am I. Show me evidence someone called him a clown, and I'll believe it. And please don't do the "just because it can't be proved it happened doesn't mean it didn't happen" excuse.

I've pasted a follow instead to show where you've replied that you also meant 2012 and not yesterday. So you claimed yesterday no one called him a clown.

And now today you said this...

My memory isn't the greatest, but I certainly remember things being said about Rosol (I never mentioned Soderling).

 

[huntingyou]

This is so silly.

I don't remember calling a number of players and posters clowns; it's a word I don't use often. Like tented said, I wasn't even around in 2012 and even when I came back I didn't post nearly as much nor I care as much.......I just don't have it anymore.

I do use the word troll and Front certainly it's a "nadal" troll.

I did called Robin a clown and many more things after his match with Rafa in 2007, he was a clown unless mimicking Rafa and turning his back to the server it's a prestigious gesture in tennis.

sometimes people repeat stuff enough times until it becomes true...I guess that's what happened to nemeth this time around.

BTW, if you guys remember my positions.....I was against the label of "weak competition" as defamation to Roger's dominance. So calling players clown kind of going against that statement.

 

[Front242]

So which is it, you "certainly do remember" or "I'm making it up"? 'cos as I pointed out you said two completely different things in less than 24 hours.

 

[tented]

^ I give up, Front. You've misread and misinterpreted me all over the place (how/why you're still referring to yesterday is beyond me), and this isn't going anywhere, despite my trying to explain it to you several times.

 

[Front242]

No need to give up. huntingyou has just admitted he called Soderling a clown and someone else called Rosol a clown so you were wrong. End of. I misinterpreted nothing. You accused me of making things up and have been proven wrong.

 

[tented]

No need to give up. huntingyou has just admitted he called Soderling a clown and someone else called Rosol a clown so you were wrong. End of. I misinterpreted nothing. You accused me of making things up and have been proven wrong.

No, I haven't been proven wrong, Front. HY just remarked about calling Soderling a clown in 2007. He did not mentioned Rosol in 2012, which is what this is supposed to be about. And yes, you did misinterpret me, as both HY and Garro have pointed out.

 

[Front242]

No need to give up. huntingyou has just admitted he called Soderling a clown and someone else called Rosol a clown so you were wrong. End of. I misinterpreted nothing. You accused me of making things up and have been proven wrong.

No, I haven't been proven wrong, Front. HY just remarked about calling Soderling a clown in 2007. He did not mentioned Rosol in 2012, which is what this is supposed to be about. And yes, you did misinterpret me, as both HY and Garro have pointed out.

You are wrong. People called Rosol a clown too. You can't remember does not equal I am making it up. Again, you need to read what Broken has written backing me up. Sigh. You are wrong. He's a lawyer. He has a good memory. So do I.

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2617&pid=113200#pid113200

 

[huntingyou]

No need to give up. huntingyou has just admitted he called Soderling a clown and someone else called Rosol a clown so you were wrong. End of. I misinterpreted nothing. You accused me of making things up and have been proven wrong.

what's wrong with you?

you said in this thread I called Rosol a clown and tented clarified to you that was a lie because I was not ACTIVE that entire year.

It's irrelevant if a called Robin clown because that's not what you said....you said ROSOL.

You are seconds away to join cali and fiero on my ignored list, I haven't done it already cause you provide random silly stuff that keeps me entertain every now and then.

 

[tented]

No need to give up. huntingyou has just admitted he called Soderling a clown and someone else called Rosol a clown so you were wrong. End of. I misinterpreted nothing. You accused me of making things up and have been proven wrong.

No, I haven't been proven wrong, Front. HY just remarked about calling Soderling a clown in 2007. He did not mentioned Rosol in 2012, which is what this is supposed to be about. And yes, you did misinterpret me, as both HY and Garro have pointed out.

You are wrong. People called Rosol a clown too. You can't remember does not equal I am making it up. Again, you need to read what Broken has written backing me up. Sigh. You are wrong. He's a lawyer. He has a good memory. So do I.

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2617&pid=113200#pid113200

Are you serious? You quoted a post in which Broken wrote "I don't know if the "clown" word was used ..." as proof? Also, lawyer does not automatically equal good memory. And based on your claims of MTOs which either didn't happen or didn't occur in the number you said, etc., for you to say you have a good memory is silly.