Wimbledon Day 4: Thursday, June 26 - Order of Play

[Front242]

Just a random fact: Federer and Müller both have a son called Lenny.

Also read before that one of his favourite actors is Leonardo DiCaprio and he's a fan of Lenny Kravitz so I'm guessing that was the inspiration behind the new twin boys' names.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/...avitz.html

 

[Fiero425]

When you're a fan of the guy who is under relentless, frequently troll-level assaults from Fed fans (and the Djokovic fans are far from innocent here, too), feeling victimized is pretty understandable. You would understand this yourself if we were as caustic and outrageous towards Federer. Luckily for you, that's not the case.
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What troll level assaults have there been? Some people question certain tactics and how quick he is to cite an injury when he loses. Is that troll style? And like I said some people go about it differently. Kieran has the subtle hatred and belittling of Roger while Nehmeth is more direct about it. I prefer Nehmeth's style of Roger hatred.

Only Nole gets full credit for beating Rafa, otherwise something has to be wrong with him; injury, stomach distress, or fight with his girlfriend! lol! :nono uzzled :clap :snigger :laydownlaughing They can't overlook or deny Nole's domination with so many wins in a row; 7 and 4 respectively over the years!

 

[DarthFed]

^ He often doesn't. Rafa's knees are never fully healthy to some.

 

[Fiero425]

^ He often doesn't. Rafa's knees are never fully healthy to some.

I say he does it to himself by the "stupid" and asinine way he plays! Constantly backing up and playing defensively when he has a perfectly good volley makes no sense to me; add Murray to the list! Both will break down with the way they play the game! :nono uzzled

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Lol. Federer has always been trashed in spades on this board and it's predecessors.. even Mirka used to get trashed. No comparison with a valid point about time between points.

Anyway, both juggernaughts move on toward a possible meeting.

I thought Rosol played well in fairness. He didn't come to lie down and went after his shots.

I agree with this. In the last 3-4 years, when Roger slowed down half a step and the rivalry switched to Nadal-Nole, Roger actually started getting more respect from certain posters that would never show him any love before. He became more tolerable as he got older.

I do remember the trashing he used to get though. Now that he is not seen as a major threat, he is getting more love, which I think is better than no love.

Either way, nobody has to love a certain player and as long as we keep the tone of dislike at a tolerable level and not call each other names, it is all good.

Now if somebody can please beat the ass pickin', time wasting banta herder before the semis, we can all be happy...:snigger:snigger

 

[pavlik89]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OESwhzVcC-o[/video]

 

[the AntiPusher]

every time I come in here its bickering fedal shite. give it a rest.

Good idea. Perhaps Front or Darth, the two leading acolytes of hate, should create a thread titled something like: "I foam at the mouth even thinking about Nadal!" and express all of their vitriol there.

We didn't state any "hate" here, in fact most of the nonsense came from Nadal fans. I mentioned one thing about time violations and that was it. Read the whole thread. AP and huntingyou's bs posts formed the bulk of the nonsense here but most of the Nadal fans as I mentioned earlier tag team and support each other like a bunch of smelly wrestlers.

AP claims he never belittles Federer's opponents and yet I dunno why this had to be even mentioned. When did I belittle Rosol today? I said he didn't serve as well as he needed to. Here's my first comment after the match for you to view all the supposed "hate". See below. Now who looks stupid?

Well it wasn't death foretold after all Good match. Pity for Rosol that his serving let him down 'cos the penultimate service game was how it needed to be all match. Probably one of the fastest service games you'll see. Nadal and fans must be happy.

Front,this is the last thing I am going to say this , you are the main one who blasted Murray in Rome, Djokovic in RG and have done it numerous times before. Today's loser Lukas, you gave a pass cause you like the way he gets after with Rafa which is cool.However, I would challenge anyone to go back and look at those previous threads, you did what you have been accused of..u can dismiss it as nonsense by me. I can't speak for HU , but either you wrote those post or you have a bizzaro alter ego ..Nuff Said

 

[Front242]

every time I come in here its bickering fedal shite. give it a rest.

Good idea. Perhaps Front or Darth, the two leading acolytes of hate, should create a thread titled something like: "I foam at the mouth even thinking about Nadal!" and express all of their vitriol there.

We didn't state any "hate" here, in fact most of the nonsense came from Nadal fans. I mentioned one thing about time violations and that was it. Read the whole thread. AP and huntingyou's bs posts formed the bulk of the nonsense here but most of the Nadal fans as I mentioned earlier tag team and support each other like a bunch of smelly wrestlers.

AP claims he never belittles Federer's opponents and yet I dunno why this had to be even mentioned. When did I belittle Rosol today? I said he didn't serve as well as he needed to. Here's my first comment after the match for you to view all the supposed "hate". See below. Now who looks stupid?

Well it wasn't death foretold after all Good match. Pity for Rosol that his serving let him down 'cos the penultimate service game was how it needed to be all match. Probably one of the fastest service games you'll see. Nadal and fans must be happy.

Front,this is the last thing I am going to say this , you are the main one who blasted Murray in Rome, Djokovic in RG and have done it numerous times before. Today's loser Lukas, you gave a pass cause you like the way he gets after with Rafa which is cool.However, I would challenge anyone to go back and look at those previous threads, you did what you have been accused of..u can dismiss it as nonsense by me. I can't speak for HU , but either you wrote those post or you have a bizzaro alter ego ..Nuff Said

Sure and you've never been annoyed when someone came close to beating Federer and then botched it up. I believe you. Mind you, thousands wouldn't! What sort of I'm a saint type goodie two shoes crap is that supposed to be lol? And I'm the only one ever I guess to have been disappointed in Murray and Djokovic in those matches, right? Again, make selective troll remarks much to only one person? Seems the same different rules for different people example I mentioned earlier as Nadal getting a free pass for abusing the time in matches but it's hilariously transparent. You seem to have issues with myself and Darth and that's it. Anyone else complaining about Djokovic or Murray losing gets a free pass. Nonsense. And you did say I could dismiss it as nonsense but wtf else is that lol?!

 

[pavlik89]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGNChbvMMq0[/video]

 

[pavlik89]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYGlu4jLrck[/video]

 

[the AntiPusher]

every time I come in here its bickering fedal shite. give it a rest.

Good idea. Perhaps Front or Darth, the two leading acolytes of hate, should create a thread titled something like: "I foam at the mouth even thinking about Nadal!" and express all of their vitriol there.

We didn't state any "hate" here, in fact most of the nonsense came from Nadal fans. I mentioned one thing about time violations and that was it. Read the whole thread. AP and huntingyou's bs posts formed the bulk of the nonsense here but most of the Nadal fans as I mentioned earlier tag team and support each other like a bunch of smelly wrestlers.

AP claims he never belittles Federer's opponents and yet I dunno why this had to be even mentioned. When did I belittle Rosol today? I said he didn't serve as well as he needed to. Here's my first comment after the match for you to view all the supposed "hate". See below. Now who looks stupid?

Well it wasn't death foretold after all Good match. Pity for Rosol that his serving let him down 'cos the penultimate service game was how it needed to be all match. Probably one of the fastest service games you'll see. Nadal and fans must be happy.

Front,this is the last thing I am going to say this , you are the main one who blasted Murray in Rome, Djokovic in RG and have done it numerous times before. Today's loser Lukas, you gave a pass cause you like the way he gets after with Rafa which is cool.However, I would challenge anyone to go back and look at those previous threads, you did what you have been accused of..u can dismiss it as nonsense by me. I can't speak for HU , but either you wrote those post or you have a bizzaro alter ego ..Nuff Said

Sure and you've never been annoyed when someone came close to beating Federer and then botched it up. I believe you. Mind you, thousands wouldn't! What sort of I'm a saint type goodie two shoes crap is that supposed to be lol? And I'm the only one ever I guess to have been disappointed in Murray and Djokovic in those matches, right? Again, make selective troll remarks much to only one person? Seems the same different rules for different people example I mentioned earlier as Nadal getting a free pass for abusing the time in matches but it's hilariously transparent. You seem to have issues with myself and Darth and that's it. Anyone else complaining about Djokovic or Murray losing gets a free pass. Nonsense. And you did say I could dismiss it as nonsense but wtf else is that lol?!

Really Front, the majority of Rafa fans don't have any issues with Darth. Darth is another one who is brutally honest and can be very critical of Roger, Rafa and the rest of the players. True, Darth doesn't care for Rafa, but that is who Darth is. However... You and Darth are not one of the same, I hope that you don't get it twisted.

 

[Front242]

Good idea. Perhaps Front or Darth, the two leading acolytes of hate, should create a thread titled something like: "I foam at the mouth even thinking about Nadal!" and express all of their vitriol there.

We didn't state any "hate" here, in fact most of the nonsense came from Nadal fans. I mentioned one thing about time violations and that was it. Read the whole thread. AP and huntingyou's bs posts formed the bulk of the nonsense here but most of the Nadal fans as I mentioned earlier tag team and support each other like a bunch of smelly wrestlers.

AP claims he never belittles Federer's opponents and yet I dunno why this had to be even mentioned. When did I belittle Rosol today? I said he didn't serve as well as he needed to. Here's my first comment after the match for you to view all the supposed "hate". See below. Now who looks stupid?

Well it wasn't death foretold after all Good match. Pity for Rosol that his serving let him down 'cos the penultimate service game was how it needed to be all match. Probably one of the fastest service games you'll see. Nadal and fans must be happy.

Front,this is the last thing I am going to say this , you are the main one who blasted Murray in Rome, Djokovic in RG and have done it numerous times before. Today's loser Lukas, you gave a pass cause you like the way he gets after with Rafa which is cool.However, I would challenge anyone to go back and look at those previous threads, you did what you have been accused of..u can dismiss it as nonsense by me. I can't speak for HU , but either you wrote those post or you have a bizzaro alter ego ..Nuff Said

Sure and you've never been annoyed when someone came close to beating Federer and then botched it up. I believe you. Mind you, thousands wouldn't! What sort of I'm a saint type goodie two shoes crap is that supposed to be lol? And I'm the only one ever I guess to have been disappointed in Murray and Djokovic in those matches, right? Again, make selective troll remarks much to only one person? Seems the same different rules for different people example I mentioned earlier as Nadal getting a free pass for abusing the time in matches but it's hilariously transparent. You seem to have issues with myself and Darth and that's it. Anyone else complaining about Djokovic or Murray losing gets a free pass. Nonsense. And you did say I could dismiss it as nonsense but wtf else is that lol?!

Really Front, the majority of Rafa fans don't have any issues with Darth. Darth is another one who is brutally honest and can be very critical of Roger. You and Darth are not one of the same, I hope that you don't get it twisted.

The only thing twisted is your vision. Maybe you missed all the clown .jpgs I've posted when Federer plays crap or is that not brutally honest?! You're being brutally dishonest or blind or both. Also, I wasn't talking about the majority of Nadal fans was I? Read again, properly this time. I said you. Took you long enough to formulate that amazing reply too lol.

 

[the AntiPusher]

We didn't state any "hate" here, in fact most of the nonsense came from Nadal fans. I mentioned one thing about time violations and that was it. Read the whole thread. AP and huntingyou's bs posts formed the bulk of the nonsense here but most of the Nadal fans as I mentioned earlier tag team and support each other like a bunch of smelly wrestlers.

AP claims he never belittles Federer's opponents and yet I dunno why this had to be even mentioned. When did I belittle Rosol today? I said he didn't serve as well as he needed to. Here's my first comment after the match for you to view all the supposed "hate". See below. Now who looks stupid?

Well it wasn't death foretold after all Good match. Pity for Rosol that his serving let him down 'cos the penultimate service game was how it needed to be all match. Probably one of the fastest service games you'll see. Nadal and fans must be happy.

Front,this is the last thing I am going to say this , you are the main one who blasted Murray in Rome, Djokovic in RG and have done it numerous times before. Today's loser Lukas, you gave a pass cause you like the way he gets after with Rafa which is cool.However, I would challenge anyone to go back and look at those previous threads, you did what you have been accused of..u can dismiss it as nonsense by me. I can't speak for HU , but either you wrote those post or you have a bizzaro alter ego ..Nuff Said

Sure and you've never been annoyed when someone came close to beating Federer and then botched it up. I believe you. Mind you, thousands wouldn't! What sort of I'm a saint type goodie two shoes crap is that supposed to be lol? And I'm the only one ever I guess to have been disappointed in Murray and Djokovic in those matches, right? Again, make selective troll remarks much to only one person? Seems the same different rules for different people example I mentioned earlier as Nadal getting a free pass for abusing the time in matches but it's hilariously transparent. You seem to have issues with myself and Darth and that's it. Anyone else complaining about Djokovic or Murray losing gets a free pass. Nonsense. And you did say I could dismiss it as nonsense but wtf else is that lol?!

Really Front, the majority of Rafa fans don't have any issues with Darth. Darth is another one who is brutally honest and can be very critical of Roger. You and Darth are not one of the same, I hope that you don't get it twisted.

The only thing twisted is your vision. Maybe you missed all the clown .jpgs I've posted when Federer plays crap or is that not brutally honest?! You're being brutally dishonest or blind or both. Also, I wasn't talking about the majority of Nadal fans was I? Read again, properly this time. I said you. Took you long enough to formulate that amazing reply too lol.

Ok Front.. you win.. I am going back on the High Road.. Maybe I will see Kirean up there.. :clap

 

[brokenshoelace]

"Hater"

EDIT: Holy $hit. If I write the word "H-a-t-e-r" it automatically comes out as detractor upon posting. I mean, you guys know I love you and everything but, that seems a touch heavy on the censorship side.

 

[Front242]

"detractor"

EDIT: Holy $hit. If I write the word "H-a-t-e-r" it automatically comes out as detractor upon posting. I mean, you guys know I love you and everything but, that seems a touch heavy on the censorship side.

You want heavy on censorship...you're apparently not even allowed to voice your disappointment at the level of Djokovic or Murray's play against Nadal without AP taking offense and getting upset. But there's a catch..., it's perfectly ok for anyone but myself and Darth or actually, scratch that...going by AP's last post it's only not ok by me. Some freedom of speech and censorship free site this is lol.

 

[brokenshoelace]

^ No faith in mighty Rosol? It is comical that the clown gave him problems once again.

Speaking of comedy, you've been providing your fair share.

Do tell...am I wrong?

About Nadal on grass? Uh, yeah.

He struggles in the first week where the grass doesn't play to his liking, and he can be upset. Of course, does anyone deny that?

Making it sound like it's an embarrassment he's had the success he's had on grass is quite silly though, especially off of arguments like him struggling with "grass court legend" Rosol today. Yeah, he dropped a set, he must be rubbish. I mean, he was taken to 5 sets by Isner at RG, and was a tiebreak away from being down two sets to love to Daniel Brands there as well, I guess he's rubbish on clay too.

Roger Federer struggling with "hard court legend" Igor Andreev at US Open 2008 must mean it's embarrassing he's had the success he did in New York, never mind his entire 2006 Australian Open run.

5 consecutive finals (well, he didn't playing in 2009, but you get the point) isn't a big enough proof of proficiency on the surface for you? I'm the first to say that losing to Steve Darcis is an embarrassment, but the problem is you seem to think it negates a whole career of achievements in the same tournament (you're sounding awfully similar to our friend). Newsflash, it doesn't. $hit happens, and sometimes you lose.

Could it be that maybe, just maybe, Nadal's knee issues and wear and tear have made it a bit more difficult for him to get down low and bend on grass, especially in the first week when the bounce stays low? No? I mean his dreadful grass results in the past couple of years are just an indication that hey, he's been awful on the surface all along. Nothing else to it.

 

[Front242]

He bends for volleys just fine on all the other surfaces, including hard courts which are much worse on the knees.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Lol. Federer has always been trashed in spades on this board and it's predecessors.. even Mirka used to get trashed. No comparison with a valid point about time between points.

I was actually just thinking about this. I'll make a thread tomorrow (not provocative, just food for thought). The similarities are uncanny (between Sampras fans then and Fed fans now. And to be fair, Rafa fans were quite similar towards Djokovic in 2011, and I suspect will be again if he ever gets close to his slam count).

 

[brokenshoelace]

And yes, it's 20 seconds between points at slams so the Nadal fans taking offense to this and trying but failing miserably to defend this might as well give up 'cos he was overlimit the whole match earlier. That's not hate, that's a blatant fact.

http://straightsets.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/atp-adopts-rules-changes-to-address-pace-of-play/

We both know the 20 second rule is literally never enforced, and umpires still follow (in theory) the 25 second rule, even in slams. Regardless, this still doesn't help your argument.

Your whole point was that Nadal was taking an obscene amount of time and it threw Rosol off. Well, most matches these guys play day in and day out are under ATP rules, so they're more than used to 25 seconds in between points. Or do you think Rosol is going to think "Hey, this is a slam. What's taking him so long? He's going a full FIVE SECONDS over?").

 

[brokenshoelace]

He bends for volleys just fine on all the other surfaces, including hard courts which are much worse on the knees.

...thus exactly proving my point that people have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to surfaces.

First of all, hard court is harder on the knees because, well, they're HARD courts. So as far as running on hards, yeah, it's more taxing on the body than grass is. However, the ball stays lower on grass (this is not up for debate), which means that you have to BEND DOWN FURTHER than you do on hards. THAT is when your knees suffer the most, not when you're doing standard split steps or sprinting to reach a ball.

Most importantly, volleys are the last thing on my mind. How many times does Nadal volley a match anyway? What's more relevant is bending down for standard ground strokes from the baseline (particularly from the backhand side for Nadal), and that's what he clearly struggles with on grass when he's not moving that well (see Darcis last year).