What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

[calitennis127]

he can't help it. He truly is a moron...

Great job addressing the success story of the doctor in New York City (699 people healed), the two French studies showing that hydroxychloroquine works, and the recent FDA approval of the drug. Great job Federturd, great job.

As I have said repeatedly, your bitterness over me owning you in argument after argument is really starting to shine through. All you have is epithets in an attempt to sound hip.

Tinfoil Federturd…..the Trump hater who is furious that the FDA just approved the drug that Trump has been touting after it worked in 4 different states!

 

[calitennis127]

And PS, it won't mean that the orange buffoon has done a good job. We need only compare to other developed nations. It would be a shocking underperformance in comparison to nations who allegedly have inferior health care systems

LOL.....and Moxie wondered why I said that this is all political for so many people. For Tinfoil Federturd - the #1 proponent of the Russian collusion conspiracy theory on this board - this whole pandemic is about is bashing Trump. Notice that Tinfoil Federturd cannot put even the tiniest blame on China or the numerous Democratic leaders in New York who encouraged people to go out and live it up. Apparently they share no blame. Not De Blasio, not various health officials (such as health commissioner Oxiris Barbot), not the WHO, not the Chinese government - nope, just Trump, who has been listening to the holy Dr. Fauci every step of the way.

 

[mrzz]

that was perfect mate. With your permission I might show some of the sectional response to him. I'll be glad to finally have the ammunition to shut his a$$ up!

I made one mistake. It is 63 K murders in 2017 (not 80).

 

[calitennis127]

The CDC later produced estimates following the 2009 Swine Flu Pandemic

60.8 million cases, 274,000 hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths based on data models.

I'm sure they will do the same with this Pandemic. It's likely to be considerably higher based on current trends.

And Tinfoil Federturd is clearly - just like CNN - rooting for as many deaths as possible in the United States in order to hold it against Trump. He is getting his hopes up like a little kid waiting to open his birthday presents.

 

[calitennis127]

Good news out of Italy.....

Italy sees signs of slowing contagion despite heavy toll

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[britbox]

Good news out of Italy.....

Italy sees signs of slowing contagion despite heavy toll

MSN

www.msn.com

It looks like Spain is fast becoming the next Italy. Then France and the UK will start spiking... hopefully they've bought some time to react.

The UK has created one of the largest hospitals in the world in 2 weeks flat.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

^^i think that is the first of 3 pop-up hospitals in uk..i heard another one near birmingham, another near manchester will be built at least..millenium stadium in cardiff (wales) is being turned over to some sort of medical facility (?). prob similar in scotland but not sure..

along with all the private hospitals (non nhs) giving over alot of capacity to covid19 patients, plus "flattening the curve" with lockdown, social distancing..it is hoped will much reduce deaths/illness and stop sick folk overwhelming the hospitals etc.

 

[britbox]

i think that is the first of 3 pop-up hospitals in uk..i heard another one near birmingham, another near manchester will be built at least..millenium stadium in cardiff (wales) is being turned over to some sort of medical facility (?). prob similar in scotland but not sure..

along with all the private hospitals (non nhs) giving over alot of capacity to covid19 patients, plus "flattening the curve" with lockdown, social distancing..it is hoped will much reduce deaths/illness and stop sick folk overwhelming the hospitals etc.

I hope so mate. That's what I like to see. + 600,000 volunteers stepping up to the plate.

 

[calitennis127]

Remarkable new info out of Italy.....as I suspected there appears to be substantial mischaracterization and even fraud in how COVID-19 cases are being reported. Of course, when all of this is exposed in a few months (as with the FBI/DOJ fraud in spying on the Trump campaign and engineering the Russia collusion hoax), no one will care:

"On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 percent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus"

-Professor Ricciardi, scientific advisor to Italy Health Minister

 

[Moxie]

Then what did all of those people die of? Speaking of tinfoil hats. And where is the atrribution?

 

[Federberg]

^10 isn’t smart enough to realise that the high fatality rate in Italy is because the healthcare system was overwhelmed and thus unable to to provide care to non pandemic patients. No one ever said the direct causality would be the virus alone. Indeed this is the main problem

 

[Moxie]

^10 isn’t smart enough to realise that the high fatality rate in Italy is because the healthcare system was overwhelmed and thus unable to to provide care to non pandemic patients. No one ever said the direct causality would be the virus alone. Indeed this is the main problem

But are you saying it is "just" that? That seems revisionist. Nothing in the Il Messaggero or La Stampa to confirm such breaking news. I've been looking. Sorry, I know you don't mean it's only the overwhelming of the system, but still, that's stretching a point.

 

[Moxie]

 

[Federberg]

But are you saying it is "just" that? That seems revisionist. Nothing in the Il Messaggero or La Stampa to confirm such breaking news. I've been looking. Sorry, I know you don't mean it's only the overwhelming of the system, but still, that's stretching a point.

It wouldn’t surprise me if some malfeasance is discovered. My point is that system breakdowns were expected to result in non pandemic deaths

 

[britbox]

^10 isn’t smart enough to realise that the high fatality rate in Italy is because the healthcare system was overwhelmed and thus unable to to provide care to non pandemic patients. No one ever said the direct causality would be the virus alone. Indeed this is the main problem

Cali will be talking about cases where the patient has existing underlying health issues and that condition is identified as the primary cause of death. Most of the health experts have pointed this out already. The highest risk groups are people with underlying conditions, particularly the elderly.

I doubt the other cases you have mentioned (non-corona) but partially attributed to a breakdown of health capacity appear on any of the stats. They'll probably get factored into certain data models later.

 

[Federberg]

some images of the new world order....

 

[britbox]

Here is an interesting article on how nuanced the counting is country by country.

Spain and other countries count coronavirus death tolls differently and the numbers may be misleading, experts warn - Olive Press News Spain

Covid-19 death figures are incomplete

www.theolivepress.es

 

[Federberg]

Here is an interesting article on how nuanced the counting is country by country.

Spain and other countries count coronavirus death tolls differently and the numbers may be misleading, experts warn - Olive Press News Spain

Covid-19 death figures are incomplete

www.theolivepress.es

Yup. I highly doubt the Chinese fatality numbers. I believe they have it under control now but those numbers...

 

[Federberg]

Coronavirus: UK labs 'can process tens of thousands more tests'

Expert says university and big hospital labs can be used to reach German levels of testing

www.theguardian.com

 

[mrzz]

Completely overwhelmed with work and other issues here so I cannot contribute and not even read properly -- that will go on for a few days I'm afraid. Just one thing, I have seen that extensive testing has been discussed. Yes, it is a big effort, but there are more benefits than just tracking the cases.

1) Contain asymptomatic patients -- right now evidence points that they can transmit the virus, even before showing the symptoms;
2) Do proper statistics -- this is vital, because models rely on data, and if your data sucks, your models are useless. You need to have a decent random sample of the population being tested, so you can use it to cross examine your full data and feed the models with some meaningful number. Otherwise your projections mean close to zilch. Just look at South Korea graphs. They are smooth for a reason.

Take care folks.