What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

[tented]

Then....



and now...



what a tool..

Probably even has a 10/10 girlfriend.

 

[mrzz]

This is no comfort.

US is a big country, and, differently from Italy, different regions have responded in different levels, and that may be costly. About three weeks ago in Italy, in places as south as Puglia, which had a very low number of cases, there were already quite harsh policies going on. In the US I believe there were whole states were very recently people were ignoring some basic facts (as Florida), and those "exceptions", first because they are densely populated, second because they had people from all over the country, third because they were a few, might be driving the curve of the entire country.

Anyway, there is one important thing: whatever you do, you don't get results immediately. There is a lag of around two weeks between action and results, so the US curve now is the result of its policy two weeks ago.

EDIT: Just checked the total cases curve, it is growing much slower then the total deaths curve. There might be some flattening already in that curve. The deaths curve is the one were you have the highest lag between government action and results. The lag I mentioned above (2 weeks) is on the total cases curve.

 

[Federberg]

US is a big country, and, differently from Italy, different regions have responded in different levels, and that may be costly. About three weeks ago in Italy, in places as south as Puglia, which had a very low number of cases, there were already quite harsh policies going on. In the US I believe there were whole states were very recently people were ignoring some basic facts (as Florida), and those "exceptions", first because they are densely populated, second because they had people from all over the country, third because they were a few, might be driving the curve of the entire country.

Anyway, there is one important thing: whatever you do, you don't get results immediately. There is a lag of around two weeks between action and results, so the US curve now is the result of its policy two weeks ago.

and that's the terrifying thing. I fear by next week we'll see multiple thousand deaths per day. I hope and pray that doesn't come to pass...

 

[mrzz]

Here are charts for Spain, UK and the absolute best crisis management anywhere in Korea

The way Koreans acted was amazing, Hollywood like. It is not only testing. They traced subjects using credit card and cell phone use, so each positive case's trajectory was reconstructed, and people who were in touch with that person were put in isolation. Think about that! That's stuff you see on movies, but done in mass scale. No wonder they have beaten the virus. They attacked it with everything they got.

 

[mrzz]

The only reasons we Brazilians don't have an official government campaign right now urging people to go back to the streets is that it was deemed illegal by the federal justice. Just imagine that, your local leader (Trump, Bojo, whoever) going on TV and Twitter -- launching an official govt campaign -- to call people to go out.

Coordinated drop of fake messages, the most flagrant one says that Emergency doctors here in São Paulo are falsifying death certificates putting Covid in everything they can. I got one of those from my sister! This, quoting a very good physicist, "is not even wrong". It is fabricated by someone who does not even know how the system works. It is equivalent to say that "Federer only has 13 majors because commie X cheated for him doing his TV commentary" (and commie X is not even a real commentator).

 

[Federberg]

 

[calitennis127]

The good news is that it looks like the cure Trump has touted is working. There are multiple examples of it working in the United States, most notably with a Hasidic Jewish doctor in New York. And multiple French studies have concluded that it is effective. Democrats in the United States don't want this drug to work because that would validate Trump's opinion and facilitate the end of the shutdown - which they are loving - but it is clearly the cure for this virus. The evidence is now overwhelming.

'It is truly a miracle': 38-year-old MI man shares story of surviving COVID-19

MACOMB COUNTY, Mich. — Jim Santilli is recovering at his home, one week after learning he tested positive for coronavirus.....

"He said I want to try, a non-approved experimental treatment, that's the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, that's the same treatment President Trump recently mentioned during a press conference... at that point, my response was what do I have to lose?"
By March 22nd, Santilli learned he was, in fact, positive for coronavirus. But, he also started feeling better.
"The gasping for air stopped, my vitals were improving, just overall I had a pretty much a 180 degree turn, it was incredible, in fact I was in tears, just because I couldn't believe the huge relief that I just had."

Michigan Man with Coronavirus Has Near-Death Experience - Is Saved by Hydroxychloroquine Treatment... Then UNLOADS on Liberal Gov. for Limiting Access to Life-Saving Drug to the Sick | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

On Thursday Michigan Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer was the latest Democrat to limit access of doctors from prescribing the lifesaving drugs hydroxychloroquine and Z-Paks to save senior citizens in the state from coronavirus.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[calitennis127]

More evidence that hydroxycholoroquine (the drug touted by Trump) works.....

Florida Man Confirms Malaria Drug Cured Him From Coronavirus

According to Fox 11 Los Angeles, a 52-year-old South Florida man (who had been hospitalized with the Coronavirus), credits an anti-malarial drug for saving his life.

Rio Giardinieri told Fox 11 that he experienced a fever for five days, back pain, headache, cough, and tiredness after attending a work-related conference in New York. Giardinieri reports that he was diagnosed with COVID-19 and pneumonia shortly after his conference.

It was at this time that Giardinieri says a friend informed him about an anti-malarial drug known as hydroxychloroquine. Giardinieri reached out to an infectious disease doctor for advice, and after being told all of the reasons why he may not want to try it (there are no trials, there was no testing, it was not something that was approved, etc.) Giardinieri elected to try it anyway. His feeling was that he was at deaths’s door, and decided it was worth the risk.

Giardinieri said he received the medication by IV, during which time he felt like his heart was “beating out of his chest” and still experienced difficulty breathing. Rio was then given Benadryl and other drugs and says that he woke up like, “Nothing ever happened.”

Florida Man Confirms Malaria Drug Cured Him From Coronavirus

According to Fox 11 Los Angeles, a 52-year-old South Florida man (who had been hospitalized with the Coronavirus), credits an anti-malarial drug for saving his life. Rio Giardinieri told Fox 11 that he experienced a fever for five days, back pain, headache, cough, and tiredness after attending a wo

moneytalk1010.com

 

[brokenshoelace]

I think you may have bought into this fallacy that Johnson is Baby Trump mate. It's actually completely incorrect. The support guarantees the British Government have been rolling out would make a far-left socialist blush.

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Just pointing out that the same person who wanted to implement the heard immunity strategy catching the virus is ironic. Don't really care for his overall politics in this particular context.

 

[Federberg]

More evidence that hydroxycholoroquine (the drug touted by Trump) works.....

Florida Man Confirms Malaria Drug Cured Him From Coronavirus

According to Fox 11 Los Angeles, a 52-year-old South Florida man (who had been hospitalized with the Coronavirus), credits an anti-malarial drug for saving his life.

Rio Giardinieri told Fox 11 that he experienced a fever for five days, back pain, headache, cough, and tiredness after attending a work-related conference in New York. Giardinieri reports that he was diagnosed with COVID-19 and pneumonia shortly after his conference.

It was at this time that Giardinieri says a friend informed him about an anti-malarial drug known as hydroxychloroquine. Giardinieri reached out to an infectious disease doctor for advice, and after being told all of the reasons why he may not want to try it (there are no trials, there was no testing, it was not something that was approved, etc.) Giardinieri elected to try it anyway. His feeling was that he was at deaths’s door, and decided it was worth the risk.

Giardinieri said he received the medication by IV, during which time he felt like his heart was “beating out of his chest” and still experienced difficulty breathing. Rio was then given Benadryl and other drugs and says that he woke up like, “Nothing ever happened.”

Florida Man Confirms Malaria Drug Cured Him From Coronavirus

According to Fox 11 Los Angeles, a 52-year-old South Florida man (who had been hospitalized with the Coronavirus), credits an anti-malarial drug for saving his life. Rio Giardinieri told Fox 11 that he experienced a fever for five days, back pain, headache, cough, and tiredness after attending a wo

moneytalk1010.com

lol! "evidence".... what an utter moron...

 

[brokenshoelace]

Total stupidity and ignorance of history. Free-market economics have done more to raise the international standard of living as well as life expectancy than any economic system.



Teachers don't make "peanuts." They are generally very well-compensated. In America most high school teachers make at least $60,000 per year, which is perfectly reasonable and more than most of them deserve, while college professors and administrators get outlandish salaries they don't deserve, like the piece of shit in the video below.

Here's a quick question for you Broken: do you want to know why you are such a dumbass? It's because education systems all over the world are increasingly run by overpaid scum like the white female loser in the video below. This woman is a dean at NYU and she sent this video as an attachment to an email informing NYU students that they won't be reimbursed for their spring semester tuition. It's turds like this that result in misinformed turds like you. It's a never-ending chain reaction. One after another after another.

This is a great example of why I am unabashedly racist against white leftists. Their ideas are utterly stupid and then when they try to be cool they just come off as white dorks. Give me a Latina any day over this old, white, gray-haired, wannabe intellectual harridan. No rhythm whatsoever, less style than a two-color quilt:

That this idiot thinks the whole world revolves around the US makes me think he's even dumber than I think he is.

Like no seriously, you cannot possibly be this stupid. You know nothing of the rest of the world (and little about the US but that's neither here nor there) to the point where it doesn't even occur to you that someone may not be talking about the United States. Or is capitalism a US monopoly? You really are lucky you have delusions of grandeur because you'd legitimately be depressed if it dawned on you how stupid you sound. I'm serious. One sentence into a post and it's already invalidated. What a fucking moron.

 

[brokenshoelace]

. Mixed market economy all the way... it's just getting the balancing act right.

I'm truly amazed that such a simple idea, especially when it's backed by actual success of those who implement it, is lost on so many. I have no idea why some view it so binary and the statement that "capitalism is the only system that works" is laughable. It might be the least flawed, but to imply it's working in its current iteration is comical.

 

[brokenshoelace]

lol! "evidence".... what an utter moron...

Oh wow he really said that. No seriously this might be the dumbest thing he's ever posted.

 

[britbox]

I'm truly amazed that such a simple idea, especially when it's backed by actual success of those who implement it, is lost on so many. I have no idea why some view it so binary and the statement that "capitalism is the only system that works" is laughable. It might be the least flawed, but to imply it's working in its current iteration is comical.

There seems to be some sort of perverse level of thinking that providing anything for free, even for the greater good is somehow embracing full-blown communism.

 

[Federberg]

Oh wow he really said that. No seriously this might be the dumbest thing he's ever posted.

so many choices though. 10 is certainly not getting a 10 for statistics and sampling!

 

[mrzz]

Re: hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin

There are indeed a few hospitals here that are testing this protocol (it is important to remark that is not only hydroxychloroquine). Yes, the early results are encouraging (but still early). I am not sure worldwide, but here I can say with some certainty: is not touted as a cure, it is (hopefully) a very useful tool to prevent patients with more acute symptoms to get even worst and end up in a ventilator. In this situation it has proven (so far) very effective -- which is good, given how precious ventilators are.

The bad thing is that, following what happened in the US, here our parrot in chief instantly echoed Trump's words about it, so, as is happening in the US, it also became political. Rumors are spreading that some hospital deliberately chose to test other protocols just because the mega-asshole Bolsonaro pronounced its name, which is something completely idiotic.

Can you imagine the world if this protocol ends up being efficient and the Russians develop a vaccine?

 

[Federberg]

Re: hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin

There are indeed a few hospitals here that are testing this protocol (it is important to remark that is not only hydroxychloroquine). Yes, the early results are encouraging (but still early). I am not sure worldwide, but here I can say with some certainty: is not touted as a cure, it is (hopefully) a very useful tool to prevent patients with more acute symptoms to get even worst and end up in a ventilator. In this situation it has proven (so far) very effective -- which is good, given how precious ventilators are.

The bad thing is that, following what happened in the US, here our parrot in chief instantly echoed Trump's words about it, so, as is happening in the US, it also became political. Rumors are spreading that some hospital deliberately chose to test other protocols just because the mega-asshole Bolsonaro pronounced its name, which is something completely idiotic.

Can you imagine the world if this protocol ends up being efficient and the Russians develop a vaccine?

another thing to consider is that India is effectively the world's monopoly producer of these drugs and they've just gone into full lockdown...

 

[brokenshoelace]

so many choices though. 10 is certainly not getting a 10 for statistics and sampling!

Remember, none of the numbers pertaining to Covid-19 means anything. But that minuscule sample that may or may not mean shit is "evidence."

 

[Federberg]

Since we keep referencing it, might as well learn a bit more about it...

 

[britbox]

another thing to consider is that India is effectively the world's monopoly producer of these drugs and they've just gone into full lockdown...

Capitalism mate. Limited state intervention and retaining some degree of a local supply chain might just get some extra legs after this.