What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

[brokenshoelace]

Hey Bwoken, you retarded bigot

Just to be clear, you're openly anti-Muslim and anti-gay. Please stop referring to other people as bigots. In fact, you have LITERALLY stated, ironically, that the only thing you're on the side of Muslims on is their treatment of homosexuals: ie killing them. So please, if you want someone dead because of where they choose to stick their dick, you're in no position to lecture anyone. I understand you're a virgin (not using that as an insult, just complimenting you on being a practicing catholic who respects the 10 commandments), but you don't have to hate everyone who gets laid...gays, women, etc... just food for thought.

 

[Federberg]

Wuhan reports no new virus cases, offering hope to world

 

[brokenshoelace]

Give it time, other countries will be moving into the same sphere as Italy soon.

Yes, Italy has an older population, and that is a factor, but you keep burying your head in the sand about exponential contagion rates and the pressure it puts on health services.

Most of these draconian interventions are to slow the burden on health services, so they can actually treat more people who need it. If too many people need a finite number of ICU units at the same time, then people die. I don't know how this isn't obvious to you.

Just a little perspective for our friend, mainly because I enjoy tap-dancing and believe it's a lost art:

Spain on March 4, 2020: 198 confirmed cases, 2 deaths.

Spain on March 19, 2020: 17,147 confirmed cases, 787 deaths.

 

[mrzz]

Here's a question: What if, instead of going into full scale quarantines, countries made a wartime-like operation to protect the elderly and the vulnerable, at the same time letting the virus spread normally among the most imune-competent ones?

 

[Federberg]

Here's a question: What if, instead of going into full scale quarantines, countries made a wartime-like operation to protect the elderly and the vulnerable, at the same time letting the virus spread normally among the most imune-competent ones?

This is broadly what the UK was planning on doing. Herd immunity theory. But they backed off yesterday and announced the closure of schools except for the kids of essential staff. I believe part of the change is due to politics (Scotland and Ireland have closed their schools, so not really tenable for English schools to remain open). And new information (France reporting that the young are not as immune as previously thought). Which puts in mind the following tweet which outraged me yesterday....

 

[Federberg]

While I disagree with those who say that the media are responsible for fearmongering (there was simply no way to report this without generating fear, and if anyone is moronic enough to suggest that the media shouldn't have reported what happened in Wuhan or the complete breakdown of the healthcare system in Italy I invite them to stick their head in shit covered sand), we do have to acknowledge the outright panic at the moment.

I went to the supermarket first thing in the morning over here (doors opened at 6am). I wanted to get some staples. The store was packed (bear in mind this was a massive Tesco's), lots of shelves were already emptying. I saw a woman with a trolley stacked with toilet rolls, and I was heartened to see people walking past shaking their heads in disgust. I was delighted to see a shop attendant tell her to put most of the stuff back. I believe you are only allowed to take 2 packs of toilet rolls in most supermarkets here now. I mean...wtf....

It took an hour of queuing to get out of there. And it was that quick because an attendant walked past and whispered to me that as I wasn't getting too much I should use the self service point. For some reason not too many people were queuing there. The world has gone bat shit crazy

 

[britbox]

Just a little perspective for our friend, mainly because I enjoy tap-dancing and believe it's a lost art:

Spain on March 4, 2020: 198 confirmed cases, 2 deaths.

Spain on March 19, 2020: 17,147 confirmed cases, 787 deaths.

Exactly, and we're nowhere near the peak of this. Might as well just be leaving basecamp at Everest.

 

[Federberg]

Exactly, and we're nowhere near the peak of this. Might as well just be leaving basecamp at Everest.

It's all supposed to peak in May. We need to keep a look out for Italy in the next week to 10 days. Assuming a 2 week lag, that'll be the time to see if the extreme social isolation measures are denting fatality rates

 

[britbox]

While I disagree with those who say that the media are responsible for fearmongering (there was simply no way to report this without generating fear, and if anyone is moronic enough to suggest that the media shouldn't have reported what happened in Wuhan or the complete breakdown of the healthcare system in Italy I invite them to stick their head in shit covered sand), we do have to acknowledge the outright panic at the moment.

I went to the supermarket first thing in the morning over here (doors opened at 6am). I wanted to get some staples. The store was packed (bear in mind this was a massive Tesco's), lots of shelves were already emptying. I saw a woman with a trolley stacked with toilet rolls, and I was heartened to see people walking past shaking their heads in disgust. I was delighted to see a shop attendant tell her to put most of the stuff back. I believe you are only allowed to take 2 packs of toilet rolls in most supermarkets here now. I mean...wtf....

It took an hour of queuing to get out of there. And it was that quick because an attendant walked past and whispered to me that as I wasn't getting too much I should use the self service point. For some reason not too many people were queuing there. The world has gone bat shit crazy

Mad. I just don't get this toilet roll buying pandemic... unless they are expecting toilet rolls to replace the US dollar as the world's reserve currency after all this is done. I guess the Economic fallout could be that bad...

 

[Federberg]

Mad. I just don't get this toilet roll buying pandemic... unless they are expecting toilet rolls to replace the US dollar as the world's reserve currency after all this is done. I guess the Economic fallout could be that bad...

who knows! A mate of mine sent me a funny video clip on WhatsApp of a guy at a strip club, using bits of toilet paper in lieu of dollars. It was hilarious

 

[mrzz]

It's all supposed to peak in May. We need to keep a look out for Italy in the next week to 10 days. Assuming a 2 week lag, that'll be the time to see if the extreme social isolation measures are denting fatality rates

I am following the Italy's curve everyday (as well as of a few other countries). Death rate and infection rate coefficients are indeed getting smaller, that I guess you can see already. Maybe some people were expecting some unrealistic miracle to happen. If the growth rate of, say, 15 days ago was still occurring, it would be a complete catastrophe. But still too early too predict the time of the peak I guess.

 

[Federberg]

 

[britbox]

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Soft Spot for Trinny Woodall? I get it.

 

[Federberg]

Soft Spot for Trinny Woodall? I get it.

Lol! Hadn't really thought about it, but she does have that look....

 

[britbox]

Lol! Hadn't really thought about it, but she does have that look....

The voice as well mate. Does it for me too.

 

[mrzz]

This is broadly what the UK was planning on doing. Herd immunity theory. But they backed off yesterday and announced the closure of schools except for the kids of essential staff.

Thx for the info. I checked and I guess the point is how well you believe you can protect your vulnerable population. My opinion is that it is easier to protect them massively then to threat the fraction infected (obviously with a small number of infected individuals this is not true). That would have the benefit of actually giving an impulse to part of the economy (similar to a war effort). Again, this all depends on how well you believe you could protect them compared to how effectively you think you can flatten the curve.

 

[Federberg]

Trump Says Malaria Drug Approved to Treat Coronavirus

President Donald Trump says a drug called hydroxychloroquine, used to treat malaria, will be made available by prescription to treat coronavirus. (Source: Bloomberg)

www.bloomberg.com

 

[Moxie]

Mad. I just don't get this toilet roll buying pandemic... unless they are expecting toilet rolls to replace the US dollar as the world's reserve currency after all this is done. I guess the Economic fallout could be that bad...

I gotta agree with you on this. What's up with the hoarding of toilet paper?! Especially when there still seems to be an abundance of paper towels on store shelves. Given that it's not a stomach flu going around, we're not going to use more TP than usual, but we will definitely be using more paper towels. The other epidemic that seems to have struck humanity is utter lack of common sense. OK, to be fair, that seems to happen every time a storm rolls around, too. After Hurricane Sandy, here, I was having a SMH moment with a checker at the grocery store about people standing in lines out the door for Trader Joe's and Whole Foods when there were perfectly good grocery stores nearby with no lines. He said, "Yeah, and a lot of them were buying microwaveable food." That, when we didn't have electricity for 4-14+ days after. Try to think things through, people.

 

[Moxie]

Trump Says Malaria Drug Approved to Treat Coronavirus

President Donald Trump says a drug called hydroxychloroquine, used to treat malaria, will be made available by prescription to treat coronavirus. (Source: Bloomberg)

www.bloomberg.com

He just looks whipped, to me.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

No new cases from Wuhan today is a good milestone .