What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

[Federberg]

If you look closely, it was Iranian money being returned (previously seized in sanctions) not a gift from American taxpayers. The middle east is such a complicated arena with dozens of competing and conflicting forces trying to exert influence. But let's be honest, the source of it can be largely attributed to outside forces using proxies to further their ambitions. That includes the US, UK, France, Iran, Russia, Turkey and a bunch of other actors.

not sure what prompted that response as I've blocked our resident troll. But I'm glad you acknowledge this. Those were Iranian funds which had been accumulating interest in US accounts that dated back to the revolution. US tax payers were actually saved from continuing to allow the Iranians from earning interest income on their dime. And for morons who want to claim that there was something suspicious about having to deliver the cash physically? That's because Iran is excluded from the global swift system. So there is simply no way for dollars to get to Iran electronically

 

[britbox]

not sure what prompted that response as I've blocked our resident troll. But I'm glad you acknowledge this. Those were Iranian funds which had been accumulating interest in US accounts that dated back to the revolution. US tax payers were actually saved from continuing to allow the Iranians from earning interest income on their dime. And for morons who want to claim that there was something suspicious about having to deliver the cash physically? That's because Iran is excluded from the global swift system. So there is simply no way for dollars to get to Iran electronically

I think that's a pretty fair assessment.

 

[calitennis127]

If you look closely, it was Iranian money being returned (previously seized in sanctions) not a gift from American taxpayers.

My point is not that the Iranians swindled the United States by getting that money. Obviously, $1.7 billion for the U.S. government is a pittance. Instead, what I am saying is that the Obama administration coughed up that money in a desperate attempt to get a deal done to make Obama and Kerry look good and stroke their egos.

If there was a principle involved of returning to the Iranians what was justly theirs, the money would have been returned much sooner than it was and under much different circumstances.

The middle east is such a complicated arena with dozens of competing and conflicting forces trying to exert influence.

That’s true, but what part of the world is that not true of? Outside actors are also highly influential in Africa, Latin America, and most of Asia, not just the Middle East.

 

[calitennis127]

I think that's a pretty fair assessment.

I don’t think it’s a fair assessment at all. If the Trump administration delivered hundreds of millions in cash in suitcases in the dead of night to one of the world’s most repressive regimes, Tinfoil Federturd would be shrieking like the little girl he is about how corrupt and shady it was. He wouldn’t be making the excuse that Iran couldn’t take the payment electronically.

The fact is, Federbergy is essentially an effeminate BBC white male leftist in the UK, who feels it is absolutely necessary to be pro-Islamic in his political positions. He wanted the Iran deal to go through because it matches his PC sensibilities. He is no different than the BBC journalists who repeatedly referred to ISIS in their articles not just as “the Islamic State” but as “the so-called Islamic State.”

Tinfoil Federturd, just like Barack Obahmmy, was disappointed that the Islamic world wasn’t as impressed with Obama’s hollow rhetoric about a new age as Obama’s shallow and braindead fan base in the West was. So he wanted Obama to have some kind of validation, especially with ISIS running wild. The Iran deal briefly provided Obama and his fans with that false sense of acumen and importance in history.

 

[britbox]

My point is not that the Iranians swindled the United States by getting that money. Obviously, $1.7 billion for the U.S. government is a pittance. Instead, what I am saying is that the Obama administration coughed up that money in a desperate attempt to get a deal done to make Obama and Kerry look good and stroke their egos.

If there was a principle involved of returning to the Iranians what was justly theirs, the money would have been returned much sooner than it was and under much different circumstances.



That’s true, but what part of the world is that not true of? Outside actors are also highly influential in Africa, Latin America, and most of Asia, not just the Middle East.

Cali, it was Iranian money. Stolen money... that was returned as part of a negotiation. I'm sure Obama and Kerry did take the opportunity of the photo op, much like Trump did with the UAE. But that's beside the point.

Outside actors are involved everywhere... agreed. But the Middle East has always been the biggest tinderbox... although admittedly maybe not for long, given the other stuff going on around the world.

 

[britbox]

I don’t think it’s a fair assessment at all. If the Trump administration delivered hundreds of millions in cash in suitcases in the dead of night to one of the world’s most repressive regimes, Tinfoil Federturd would be shrieking like the little girl he is about how corrupt and shady it was. He wouldn’t be making the excuse that Iran couldn’t take the payment electronically.

The fact is, Federbergy is essentially an effeminate BBC white male leftist in the UK, who feels it is absolutely necessary to be pro-Islamic in his political positions. He wanted the Iran deal to go through because it matches his PC sensibilities. He is no different than the BBC journalists who repeatedly referred to ISIS in their articles not just as “the Islamic State” but as “the so-called Islamic State.”

Tinfoil Federturd, just like Barack Obahmmy, was disappointed that the Islamic world wasn’t as impressed with Obama’s hollow rhetoric about a new age as Obama’s shallow and braindead fan base in the West was. So he wanted Obama to have some kind of validation, especially with ISIS running wild. The Iran deal briefly provided Obama and his fans with that false sense of acumen and importance in history.

The post was about Iran being frozen outside of the SWIFT system for money transfers. Is there a discussion point here about that or is it just random character assassination of a poster?

Iran couldn't take the money electronically because of other sanctions, so it was paid in cash. I'm not sure what tree you're barking up here.

 

[britbox]

I've been called batshit crazy and promoting conspiracy theories by one or two posters regarding the Great Reset flying under the cover of COVID. No worries, it's all water off a duck's back.

Nevertheless, I'm pretty convinced. Now I'm sure the first source will be attacked, but this theory is growing by the day.

As Boris Johnson announces Britain’s ‘great reset’, were the Covid ‘conspiracy theorists’ right all along?

The UK Prime Minister’s remote speech to his party conference saw him dismiss the idea of returning to normality. Is he using Covid-19 to follow the World Economic Forum’s ‘Great Reset’ agenda, as many have warned?

www.rt.com

If you want to find out more visit the World Economic Forum

The World Economic Forum

Also check out the United Nations website:

Take Action for the Sustainable Development Goals - United Nations Sustainable Development

United Nations Sustainable Development Goals - Time for Global Action for People and Planet

www.un.org

They are all pretty much locked in together. Funded by the same foundations, who will also reap the rewards.

If you delve deeply enough, it's essentially marxism governed by monopoly capitalism.

Interesting stuff, if you have the time to read it. If you haven't then I'd suggest making the time.

Most people understand the debt-based economic system currently in place is broken. This is the driving force behind the "health crisis". Always follow the money. It's ushering a new system to replace the old. In Klaus Schwaub's own words, the old economy has to be destroyed to bring in the new. Schwaub is the Chairman of the World Economic Forum.

Of course, a plan is fine until you get punched in the face (Mike Tyson). I suspect implementation is going to be far harder than expected and with major pushback.

 

[calitennis127]

Interesting stuff, Britbox. I’m glad you have caught on to how fraudulent the Covid narrative is. You may find this video interesting right here. This is a female doctor from the Netherlands named Elke de Klerk saying that “Covid” is not serious enough to amount to a “pandemic.”

Moxie should note that this female is greater than Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Much greater actually than that unoriginal old bag:

 

[britbox]

Interesting stuff, Britbox. I’m glad you have caught on to how fraudulent the Covid narrative is. You may find this video interesting right here. This is a female doctor from the Netherlands named Elke de Klerk saying that “Covid” is not serious enough to amount to a “pandemic.”

Moxie should note that this female is greater than Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Much greater actually than that unoriginal old bag:

The push back is building momentum. The Great Barrington Declaration is another move. Of course, MSM is either deleting all references to this material or trying to denigrate the authors. Who to believe on matters of health eh? The communist puppet politician heading the WHO and a guy who made his money developing software OR this quickly growing mass of thousands of medical practitioners who took Hippocratic oaths?

 

[Federberg]

The push back is building momentum. The Great Barrington Declaration is another move. Of course, MSM is either deleting all references to this material or trying to denigrate the authors. Who to believe on matters of health eh? The communist puppet politician heading the WHO and a guy who made his money developing software OR this quickly growing mass of thousands of medical practitioners who took Hippocratic oaths?

I think we've seen examples of success in handling this pandemic. It beggars the mind why people are trying to come up with alternatives, when we can all learn from what countries like New Zealand, Japan and Taiwan. Encouraging herd immunity or some sort of Sweden type method is just insanity to me

 

[calitennis127]

I think we've seen examples of success in handling this pandemic. It beggars the mind why people are trying to come up with alternatives, when we can all learn from what countries like New Zealand, Japan and Taiwan. Encouraging herd immunity or some sort of Sweden type method is just insanity to me

Because you are clueless. Sweden has been immensely successful and they have not made their people miserable with the stupid and destructive lockdowns. The states of New York and New Jersey took your approach and they had the highest death rates in the world (and Japan never actually enforced the approach that many in the West believe in; they just didn’t have a CDC infested with Democratic partisans inflating the Covid death total to make their nation’s leader look bad like the U.S. does).

Sweden's rank in global COVID-19 deaths continues to fall as other countries move up the list​

Its global rank is half its peak over the summer.

By Daniel Payne

Updated: October 17, 2020 - 7:40pm

Sweden's rank in global COVID-19 deaths continues to fall as other countries move up the list

Its global rank is half its peak over the summer.

justthenews.com

 

[calitennis127]

The push back is building momentum. The Great Barrington Declaration is another move. Of course, MSM is either deleting all references to this material or trying to denigrate the authors. Who to believe on matters of health eh? The communist puppet politician heading the WHO and a guy who made his money developing software OR this quickly growing mass of thousands of medical practitioners who took Hippocratic oaths?

The left does not care even a hoot about actual science. For them, "science" is merely getting someone with credentials to publicly support their political agenda and nothing else. You saw this with hydroxychloroquine in the United States and you've also seen it with the lockdown mania throughout the world. In both cases, actual science was opposed to the talking points of the left, but the voices of those standing with the science were drowned out by screaming left-wing lunatics for whom Covid is a political cause and an anti-Trump political symbol (not to mention a psychotic phobia).

On that note, did you see this remarkable interview with David Nabarro, the WHO's Special Envoy on "Covid-19," a little over a week ago? Just watch the last 2 minutes of the interview below (10:00 to 12:07) and you will hear Nabarro say this:

"I want to say it again: we in the World Heath Organization do not advocate lockdowns as a primary means of control of this virus. The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to re-organize, re-group, re-balance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large we'd rather not do it. Just look at what's happened to the tourism industry, for example in the Caribbean or in the Pacific because people aren't taking holidays. Look what's happened to small-holder farmers all over the world because their markets have got dented. Look what's happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition because children are not getting meals at school and their parents in poor families are not able to afford it. This is a terrible, ghastly global catastrophe actually, and so we really do appeal to all world leaders: stop using lockdown as your primary control method. Develop better systems for doing it. Work together and learn from each other. But remember, lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never, ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer."

So there you go - you have Nabarro saying that thanks to the idiotic lockdown ideas supported by Federbergy, Moxie, Tented, AntiPushyWhush, and BwokenWooWace (the self-described anti-capitalist who cares about the little guy and not just the super-rich) you will see a doubling of world poverty by next year and a doubling of child malnutrition, with tens of millions of poor people globally being even poorer. With enemies so dumb, why do the global capitalistis need friends? The likes of Broken_Shoelace are unwitting, deeply credulous allies to the inequality-driving capitalists they claim to oppose:

WHO Covid expert: Lockdowns can only delay virus infections | SpectatorTV​

Oct 9, 2020

 

[britbox]

The left does not care even a hoot about actual science. For them, "science" is merely getting someone with credentials to publicly support their political agenda and nothing else. You saw this with hydroxychloroquine in the United States and you've also seen it with the lockdown mania throughout the world. In both cases, actual science was opposed to the talking points of the left, but the voices of those standing with the science were drowned out by screaming left-wing lunatics for whom Covid is a political cause and an anti-Trump political symbol (not to mention a psychotic phobia).

On that note, did you see this remarkable interview with David Nabarro, the WHO's Special Envoy on "Covid-19," a little over a week ago? Just watch the last 2 minutes of the interview below (10:00 to 12:07) and you will hear Nabarro say this:

"I want to say it again: we in the World Heath Organization do not advocate lockdowns as a primary means of control of this virus. The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to re-organize, re-group, re-balance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large we'd rather not do it. Just look at what's happened to the tourism industry, for example in the Caribbean or in the Pacific because people aren't taking holidays. Look what's happened to small-holder farmers all over the world because their markets have got dented. Look what's happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition because children are not getting meals at school and their parents in poor families are not able to afford it. This is a terrible, ghastly global catastrophe actually, and so we really do appeal to all world leaders: stop using lockdown as your primary control method. Develop better systems for doing it. Work together and learn from each other. But remember, lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never, ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer."

So there you go - you have Nabarro saying that thanks to the idiotic lockdown ideas supported by Federbergy, Moxie, Tented, AntiPushyWhush, and BwokenWooWace (the self-described anti-capitalist who cares about the little guy and not just the super-rich) you will see a doubling of world poverty by next year and a doubling of child malnutrition, with tens of millions of poor people globally being even poorer. With enemies so dumb, why do the global capitalistis need friends? The likes of Broken_Shoelace are unwitting, deeply credulous allies to the inequality-driving capitalists they claim to oppose:

WHO Covid expert: Lockdowns can only delay virus infections | SpectatorTV​

Oct 9, 2020

Forget the left v right argument - the same stuff is happening with governments across the world. Which party is in "power" is irrelevant. Division and fear is largely what keeps us "cattle" distracted and under control.

The very elite globalists don't care about Grandma's health. They don't care about anybody's health. Most of them have an unhealthy history with eugenics and depopulation. Destroying the old economy and middle class to help your Grandma? I don't think so. More like their debt-based economic model is totally exhausted. If you think 2020 was chaotic, it'll be a picnic to the fallout in 2021.

 

[calitennis127]

The push back is building momentum. The Great Barrington Declaration is another move. Of course, MSM is either deleting all references to this material or trying to denigrate the authors.

You really called that one for the day. One of Trump’s new Covid advisers (Dr. Scott Atlas from Stanford) just had his Twitter account locked for dissenting from Democratic Party orthodoxy. Yet another example of the left censoring actual science:

 

[Kieran]

Okay, genuine question here, not coming to brawl but to understand. Let me state a few thoughts first: the virus is real, it's contagious, it's highly dangerous - and I think that though governments are generally "doing their best within the limited thought-frames of politicians", the reaction to it is most likely going to be much worse than the virus, long term.

The question is more for my old mucker, brother Britbox: what's in it for Boris Johnson to join an international conspiracy that has wrecked his economy?

Look at him on January 1st. He's won all his battles, brilliantly, his enemies are scattered to the wind, he has the biggest Conservative Party mandate for decades, he has a strong stick to batter the EU with, the economy was strong - and look at him now? He's fighting a pandemic that nobody can look good fighting, the economy is shrinking, he's been in hospital himself and is most likely still feeling the effects of Covid, his backbenchers are grumbling, the populace are fed up - what's in it for him?

I don't understand this...

 

[britbox]

Okay, genuine question here, not coming to brawl but to understand. Let me state a few thoughts first: the virus is real, it's contagious, it's highly dangerous - and I think that though governments are generally "doing their best within the limited thought-frames of politicians", the reaction to it is most likely going to be much worse than the virus, long term.

The question is more for my old mucker, brother Britbox: what's in it for Boris Johnson to join an international conspiracy that has wrecked his economy?

Look at him on January 1st. He's won all his battles, brilliantly, his enemies are scattered to the wind, he has the biggest Conservative Party mandate for decades, he has a strong stick to batter the EU with, the economy was strong - and look at him now? He's fighting a pandemic that nobody can look good fighting, the economy is shrinking, he's been in hospital himself and is most likely still feeling the effects of Covid, his backbenchers are grumbling, the populace are fed up - what's in it for him?

I don't understand this...

Kieran, I think the virus IS real, no doubt and yes, it is highly contagious. No doubt about that either. However, even with that in mind, the statistics have been wildly twisted to fit a narrative. More on that after, but let's look at the WHY?

Problem~Reaction~Solution

It's an age old concept. You need to reach a solution, so you create a problem, react to it and end with the solution you desired. You wouldn't have been able to sell the solution independently without the problem being in place.

The solution is UN Agenda 21/ Agenda 2030 for Sustainable Development of the United Nations. Most countries signed up to it. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's all in plain sight. The UK, USA, Ireland and the rest of the EU are on board.

https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/21252030%20Agenda%20for%20Sustainable%20Development%20web.pdf

This UN Agenda is the vehicle that feed into the Great Reset being promoted by the World Economic Forum.

The Great Reset

There is an urgent need for global stakeholders to cooperate in simultaneously managing the direct consequences of the COVID-19 crisis. To improve the state of the world, the World Economic Forum is starting The Great Reset initiative.

www.weforum.org

The foundations involved with both the UN and the WEF are many, but you can include:

Rockefeller Foundation, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, The Ford Foundation, The Carnegie Endowment, Open Societies (Soros), Lowey Institute and many more.

The full list is staggering:

Partners | World Economic Forum

It's a "who's who" of global multinational organizations including Big Tech, Big Pharma etc, Big Banking etc.

There is a plethora of banking giants in that list. So we know the City of London is on board (I mean the real City of London - the financial square mile as opposed to the Greater London metropolis). We know the House of Windsor is on board. Charles is one of the WEF figureheads (Don't think for a minute that the British Royal Family is some benign hand waving establishment).

All Big Tech are on there - Google, Facebook, Amazon etc...

The UK was always going to be part of this reset. I was reading Matt Hancock's speeches from a few years ago.

The Fourth Industrial Revolution

Minister for Digital, Matt Hancock, addresses the All-Party Parliamentary Group on the Fourth Industrial Revolution's (4IR) Autumn reception

www.gov.uk

The same guy is "coincidentally" the Minister for Health right now? There is no coincidence.

So why is this happening? My best guess is that the giant Ponzi scheme that we call the US Economy is about to collapse. The Petrodollar is ending fast. The Rockefellers took care of the oil giants like Exxon. The dominos are falling. The United States is the last one. As George Soros said, "The 2020 US Election will decide the future of the world."

Remember, It's always about the MONEY and CONTROL. These guys don't care about your health. Most of the big players want depopulation.

On the WEF strategies, Some of the ideas are pretty good when you read through them...

However, we're basically handing over a reset to the same people who led us here, and on the issue of trust, they are deceiving us mightily.

 

[britbox]

What you are currently seeing unfolding has been played out in various hypothetical scenarios by the big players.

Rockefeller Lock Step 2010

http://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller%20Foundation.pdf

Event 201. 2019

 

[britbox]

There is a lot more on Event 201 here. It's been banned from regular channels, but includes a lot of the scenario footage that they played out. Eerily similar to what we saw in practice.

 

[calitennis127]

Britbox there is one key piece to the narrative that you are missing, which is the origin of "Covid" itself. Most of the U.S. media and of course the international media that slavishly follow the lead of the New York Times and Washington Post have covered this up, but about a month ago Tucker Carlson had a Chinese virologist whistleblower named Dr. Li-Meng Yan on his show. She said in the interview that the Chinese military designed the virus in the Wuhan lab and intentionally released it to the world. Given the way that the virus targets financially costly and inconvenient populations (i.e. the elderly and immunocompromised), this seems entirely plausible.

This video was originally censored by Big Tech but now it can be viewed:

Coronavirus whistleblower speaks out about possible COVID origin on 'Tucker'​

Premiered Sep 15, 2020

 

[Kieran]

Cheers brother!

Now, we both agree the virus is real and contagious, and I have little difficulty with anyone who looks at the response to it and says "the statistics have been twisted to fit the narrative." I agree. I see it in Ireland and other places, where people who died with Covid are classified as having died of Covid, and so on, and we see in Ireland a science driven response to the virus which is often contradictory and not seeming to be very scientific. Example, two weeks ago they placed us on Level 3, but now they say Level 3 hasn't worked so we should go to Level 5. This seems to me like Level 3 hasn't been tried long enough for up-to-date information on what happened during the two weeks to be collected, but since the scientists have been pushing for Level 5 for a while, it doesn't surprise me.

But the point here is, that this is scientists working with their data and formulating a response, based on that data. The other factors - mental health issues, a crashing economy, domestic abuse cases rising during lockdowns - aren't within their brief. They give the government the facts, and the government decides.

So far, so obvious. I agree tie reaction will be worse than the pandemic (if that's something you would say), but none of this fits a conspiracy narrative for me. For that to happen, we would need to be able to point to where the Irish government know they're acting dishonestly but continue to do so in order to please the conspirators. You know what I mean> They have to be in on it some way, either unwittingly, or explicitly.

Which brings me back to Boris: what's in it for him? I just don't see him signing up for a global conspiracy that derails his momentum. This isn't his kind of crisis. His crisis was the crisis of democracy and sovereignty relating to Brexit, which gave him an historic upward trajectory at the last election. I just don't see such a level of conspiracy being agreed upon by him - and everybody else in all the western democracies - and yet nobody gets wind of it except conspiracy theorists? You know what I mean? All the leadership in the EU, including countries like Poland, Lithuania which are barely growing their economies, the Spanish, Italians, Greeks, all of them keep schtum about this? I just can't fathom it.

I think the response to the virus is inadequate and dangerous, I agree with people who say there are too many experts being silenced, and I agree that Sweden seem to have taken a more mature approach - albeit still with restrictions - but I'm not quite clear that there's something global being planned, and especially not involving such an inept and useless crew as the UN...