Wow, Covid is really surging again in the UK. Scary stuff. Oh wait, it’s not “Covid” doing that. Hmmmm:
What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad
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The international posters here (not to mention the Trump-hating Democrats) really are sad for not even mentioning the Trump-brokered Israel-UAE and Israel-Bahrain deals. Nothing but crickets here. Even Moxie's second favorite newspaper - the Washington Compost (i.e. the dumbest newspaper in the world) - had an occasional moment of rationality and ran a favorable op-ed for Trump over it.
Are many of you just mad that Obama and Biden were too dumb and lacking in creativity to ever pull something like this off?
Trump brokers historic Israel-UAE deal for peace and prosperity
Israel and UAE peace deal is vindication for Trump: Goodwin
By Michael Goodwin
August 13, 2020 | 10:15pm
nypost.com
The haters won’t admit it, but Trump’s UAE-Israel diplomacy is an extraordinary triumph
Opinion by Hugh Hewitt
Contributing columnist
September 11
Are many of you just mad that Obama and Biden were too dumb and lacking in creativity to ever pull something like this off?
Trump brokers historic Israel-UAE deal for peace and prosperity
Israel and UAE peace deal is vindication for Trump: Goodwin
By Michael Goodwin
August 13, 2020 | 10:15pm
Israel and UAE peace deal is vindication for Trump: Goodwin
Now we’re talking the Art of the Deal! While it is not unusual in political circles to describe something as a historic breakthrough, it is unusual when the term is justified. Yet that is the right…
nypost.com
The haters won’t admit it, but Trump’s UAE-Israel diplomacy is an extraordinary triumph
Opinion by Hugh Hewitt
Contributing columnist
September 11
Even someone at the New Slavetrader Shithole Times is giving Trump some credit for the Israel-UAE deal.....
A Geopolitical Earthquake Just Hit the Mideast
The Israel-United Arab Emirates deal will be felt throughout the region.
By Thomas L. Friedman
Opinion Columnist
Aug. 13, 2020
www.nytimes.com
A Geopolitical Earthquake Just Hit the Mideast
The Israel-United Arab Emirates deal will be felt throughout the region.
By Thomas L. Friedman
Opinion Columnist
Aug. 13, 2020
Opinion | A Geopolitical Earthquake Just Hit the Mideast (Published 2020)
The Israel-United Arab Emirates deal will be felt throughout the region.
Kerry is such an idiot, lol. He and his uncreative and poorly educated allies could never pull off what the Trump administration has with Israel, the UAE, and Bahrain. A lot of the naysayers about these deals are just envious right now:
More evidence of how much of an idiot Kerry is, and also just how clueless the Obama administration was about the Middle East. This kind of stupidity is why the leftist media cannot credit the Trump administration for pulling off the deals between Israel-UAE, Israel-Bahrain, and Serbia-Kosovo; they are simply jealous that their heroes such as John Kerry are too clueless to ever pull something like that off:
Trump just received his 3rd nomination this year for a Nobel Peace Prize, this time from Australian law professors. And of course none of the critics of U.S. foreign policy on this board can give him the slightest credit for it.
Trump Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Australian Law Professors for Doctrine Against Endless Wars
BY MATTHEW IMPELLI ON 9/28/20 AT 4:14 PM EDT
www.newsweek.com
Donald Trump receives third nomination for 2020 Nobel Peace Prize
By Mark Moore
September 29, 2020 | 2:23pm
nypost.com
Trump Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Australian Law Professors for Doctrine Against Endless Wars
BY MATTHEW IMPELLI ON 9/28/20 AT 4:14 PM EDT
Trump Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Australian Law Professors
It was the third time the US president has been nominated this year for the 2021 Noble Peace Prize.
www.newsweek.com
Donald Trump receives third nomination for 2020 Nobel Peace Prize
By Mark Moore
September 29, 2020 | 2:23pm
Donald Trump receives third nomination for 2020 Nobel Peace Prize
President Trump has scored a hat trick of nominations for the 2020 Nobel Peace Prize, this time for the president's foreign policy philosophy, dubbed the “Trump Doctrine,” accordin…
nypost.com
Hilarious.....the WHO is now investigating allegations within its own ranks from 50 women that they were sexually assaulted by WHO employees in the Congo. Again - a brilliant move by the Trump administration to get out of this dreadful organization.
WHO to probe 'sexual exploitation' by aid workers in DR Congo
The World Health Organization (WHO) has pledged to investigate allegations that aid workers tackling the Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo sexually abused and exploited women.
WHO and other aid agency staff were accused by 50 women in a joint investigation by two news agencies.
Local women were allegedly plied with drinks, "ambushed" in hospitals, forced to have sex, and two became pregnant.
The allegations cover the period between 2018 and March this year.
www.bbc.com
WHO to probe 'sexual exploitation' by aid workers in DR Congo
The World Health Organization (WHO) has pledged to investigate allegations that aid workers tackling the Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo sexually abused and exploited women.
WHO and other aid agency staff were accused by 50 women in a joint investigation by two news agencies.
Local women were allegedly plied with drinks, "ambushed" in hospitals, forced to have sex, and two became pregnant.
The allegations cover the period between 2018 and March this year.
WHO to probe 'sexual exploitation' by aid workers in DR Congo
The health body says a "robust" investigation will cover claims against aid workers tackling Ebola.
www.bbc.com
britbox
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Saudi Arabia fails in bid for seat on UN Human Rights Council. This feels like a comedy script being burned in the womb.
www.aljazeera.com
Time for the Saudis to appreciate they were just an oil whore of the United States, and that love affair is drawing to a close.
Saudi Arabia fails in bid for seat on UN Human Rights Council
China, Russia and Cuba win seats as analysts question whether human rights violators should be elected to the council.
Time for the Saudis to appreciate they were just an oil whore of the United States, and that love affair is drawing to a close.
Saudi Arabia fails in bid for seat on UN Human Rights Council. This feels like a comedy script being burned in the womb.
Saudi Arabia fails in bid for seat on UN Human Rights Council
China, Russia and Cuba win seats as analysts question whether human rights violators should be elected to the council.
Time for the Saudis to appreciate they were just an oil whore of the United States, and that love affair is drawing to a close.
Interesting info there, Britbox. It does seem the Saudis are seeing their power in the region at least somewhat reduced. The recent peace agreements with Israel by the UAE and Bahrain (which led to Trump’s nomination for a Nobel Peace prize) also raise the question of how important the Saudis are in the region now compared to, say, 20 years ago.
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Interesting times ahead Cali. Given the direction the western world is pulling, we're in the end game of the PetroDollar. That translates to seismic shifts in the the structure of the world financial system. Follow the money. Turbulent times are coming.
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The Saudis might not be deserving but they should qualify for sainthood in comparison to the Chinese who are operating concentration camps to wipe out the Uighurs on a scale to make Goebbels blushSaudi Arabia fails in bid for seat on UN Human Rights Council. This feels like a comedy script being burned in the womb.
Saudi Arabia fails in bid for seat on UN Human Rights Council
China, Russia and Cuba win seats as analysts question whether human rights violators should be elected to the council.
Time for the Saudis to appreciate they were just an oil whore of the United States, and that love affair is drawing to a close.
britbox
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And the Chinese government is completely in cahoots with major American corporations, especially the Big Tech companies and the NBA, as well as numerous figures in the Democratic Party. Human rights abuses apparently don't matter to American Democrats when they are profiting massively from them.
britbox
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I don't think you can just pin that ideology on American Democrats. It applies across the board - Republicans and non-Americans too.
It depends on which Republicans you are talking about. If you are talking about Bush/McCain-type neoconservative Republicans, yes, I think they have no problem aligning with regimes whose stated principles don't align with the ones they themselves profess (e.g. John McCain giving aid and comfort to jihadist radicals in Syria). But I actually think Trump-type Republicans are far more consistent. I don't see Trump-style Republicans moralizing constantly and then aligning themselves with foreign governments that contradict those principles.
britbox
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I don't think it matters which cohort of Republicanism you are talking about. If you're looking at it from a level above national politics, on a geopolitical plane, then it's about power, influence and control. That applies to both parties and other nations.
It's about Democracy? Nope, look at how much the US invested in the Contras over the democratically elected Sandanistas in Nicaragua. It's about human life? Nope, look at Iraq, Libya, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, Palestine...
Let's not pretend for one minute that governments give a f*** about foreign lives. They never did and never will. It's always been about power, control and influence.
But how can you lump Trump in with the Bush/McCain-style Republicans? He has not started any wars or nation-building projects (which is in part why he has received multiple nominations for Nobel peace prizes). To the contrary, Trump has promoted peace in the Middle East. The only people he has attacked are the likes of Baghdadi and Soleimani - each of whom richly deserved their fate.
I'm afraid you are committing the Broken_Shoelace mistake of lumping all Republicans into the same category. That frankly makes no sense. Part of the reason the Bush-Romney-McCain Republican establishment opposed Trump's candidacy so vehemently in 2016 (and now supports Biden over Trump in 2020) is that they profoundly object to Trump's non-interventionist foreign policy.
britbox
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I never used to follow US domestic politics much, only the foreign policy. So in that respect, Trump does deserve kudos for the lack of military interventions and helping broker those peace deals (BTW, it's worth mentioning there are plenty of other interventions outside of military). However, I do think scrapping the agreement with the Iranians was a bad move. Not solely because of the deal itself, but the way he rode roughshod over European allies. US influence is waning with Europe, particularly on the mainland. I don't think Trump is viewed as a stable or reliable partner by old allies.
I actually think it’s a good thing for Europe to be less influenced by America. I think the U.S. State Department generally has a pernicious effect on the world, especially Europe.
At any rate, why do you have any affection for the Iran nuclear deal? It was clearly done corruptly - with the Iranian regime getting $400 million in cash from the Obama administration in suitcases - and as a vanity trip for Obama. He was ashamed that the Middle East had not reciprocated his overtures at Cairo in 2009 for a new age of Western-Islamic dialogue (in fact, the governments of the Middle East could not have cared less what he had to say) and instead the region descended into chaos in Libya and Syria, with ISIS running wild.
Can’t you see the whole point of the Iran nuclear deal was to give Obama a photo op at all costs?
britbox
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If you look closely, it was Iranian money being returned (previously seized in sanctions) not a gift from American taxpayers. The middle east is such a complicated arena with dozens of competing and conflicting forces trying to exert influence. But let's be honest, the source of it can be largely attributed to outside forces using proxies to further their ambitions. That includes the US, UK, France, Iran, Russia, Turkey and a bunch of other actors.
