What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

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Here is one for Moxie to chew on.....this shows how parochical and small-minded Democrats, especially white Democrats, in the United States are. They don't know what's happening in other parts of the world, nor do they care. All they care about is pursuing power over Republicans. It's such a shallow way to be.



The land with no face masks: Holland's top scientists say there's no solid evidence coverings work and warn they could even damage the fight against Covid-19
By Ian Birrell In Amsterdam For The Mail On Sunday

Published: 17:05 EDT, 1 August 2020

 

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Here is one for Moxie to chew on.....this shows how parochical and small-minded Democrats, especially white Democrats, in the United States are. They don't know what's happening in other parts of the world, nor do they care. All they care about is pursuing power over Republicans. It's such a shallow way to be.



The land with no face masks: Holland's top scientists say there's no solid evidence coverings work and warn they could even damage the fight against Covid-19
By Ian Birrell In Amsterdam For The Mail On Sunday

Published: 17:05 EDT, 1 August 2020

You should read that article more carefully. Typical of the Daily Mail, which is a bit of a rag, they headlined something that's not completely true, even in their article. One of the complaints is that people wear them wrong, or that they give a false sense of security, not that they don't do the job. And they do require them on buses and tighter spaces. It's easy to say that masks don't work if people don't wear them right, or if they don't respect social distancing because they over-value the usefulness of the mask. But none of this is on the mask....it's on the user, as the article states.
 

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And here is a video debunking the "testing" mythology that Moxie and others adhere to.....once again, from a non-American (Dr. Barbara Yaffe) who isn't getting any publicity from the American media. This lady is also adamantly for schools re-opening for the sake of children's health:




Canadian Medical Official Warns Against Mass COVID-19 Testing

 

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Huge explosion in Beirut. 73 dead so far.


This reminds me of the Swedish film "Force Majeure" , where an individual has a split second to react to an imminent danger/threat. That woman's selfless caring character shined through.....
 
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An investigation is taking place in the UK on the over-reporting of cases. I said a while ago that the US and UK were probably over-reporting and globally, there is probably under-reporting... For instance, reports from Iran indicate that the reported deaths might be a third of the real number. I suspect Russia and China are both under-reporting significantly.

If the UK is reporting COVID deaths that includes anybody that has had COVID ever, then that's clearly going to cause a major discrepancy.

On the other issue "DIED FROM COVID" or "DIED WITH COVID" - the UK has always reported infectious diseases on death certificates. It's not something new, so no conspiracy from that angle. Clearly, if proven, the former charge, "EVER HAD COVID" raises a lot of issues if true.

One thing I was looking at early on was the net monthly deaths against a historical trend. The UK bumped up significantly early on in the pandemic. That tells you COVID is very real. However, that monthly net death rate is below average right now. That indicates that COVID is claiming lives a few months earlier than you'd otherwise expect (i.e. statistically many people who were on a pathway to death), rather than being some sort of modern-day bubonic plague. There are plenty of random outliers though too.

This so much. Anybody who believes China's death count is actually 26th in the world is inhaling many, many chemicals. India, China, South Africa, Mexico, Turkey, Brazil, etc the list goes on and on where there is still a glaring lack of testing for much of the planet's populace.

LIke Brittbox said, checking overall deaths per previous years is a clear indicator that something is skewing results, and even in the Western countries such as the US, France, Italy, etc in the early months in many zones deaths reported overall were much higher than in previous years. Is there some underreporting and some overreporting, of course, it is human error and not enough data on a timely basis, so every stat is a rough count at best .

However, at this point I don't think anyone rational minded will dispute that this is the worst worldwide pandemic in 100 years, encompassing all corners of our planet . What I get from this new world of ours is that this globe has shrunk significantly and things are not going to go back to status quo, especially if it takes longer to get a vaccine. We must adapt, and confront this situation with a coordinated effort.
 

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I"ve always thought these guys give a pretty good overview culling from a variety of different polling sources... Not just one or two sources.

 

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I love stuff like this. Shows the good side of humanity. Thinking of @brokenshoelace - last time I remember he was back in Lebanon. Hope he's OK. Check in brother.


Lol.....now that teeinted reported he is okay, I can let loose with some wisecracks. Bwoken will probably blame this incident on the U.S.'s "genocidal war ideology" - which he never was able to define the numerous times I asked him to, but apparently considers to be the most dangerous force in the world, aside from "racism" and "homophobia." The irony is that to the extent that this "genocidal war ideology" phenomenon exists it emanates from a political class in the U.S. that Bwoken says he hates but fundamentally agrees with. It's also ironic to see Bwoken insult U.S. leaders, particularly Trump and Republicans, for supposedly being incompetent, while the leaders of his native country just pulled one of the most royal fuck-ups anyone can imagine. Now I am all for saying that Democrats are incompetent (just look at Portland, NYC, and Chicago) but it's not fair of Broken to lump all Americans, particularly the numerous high IQ Republican governors, in with the dumbass Democrats. It's totally unfair of him to generalize that way.

Anyhow, it appears from the reports that I have read that this incident was mainly the result of inexcusable carelessness and neglect on the part of the Lebanese government. It looks like Prime Minister Hassan Diab is Lebanon's equivalent of Andrew Cuomo, Phil Murphy, or Gretchen Whitmer (three Democratic governors who have terribly mishandled the Covid crisis in their respective states). As NBC News explained:

"Lebanese Prime Minister Hassan Diab blamed Tuesday's massive blast on 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate, a chemical used in fertilizer and bombs, which had been stockpiled in a warehouse by the port and blew up.

The ammonium nitrate that caused the blast arrived in Beirut Port in the fall of 2013 on a Russian-owned cargo ship named the Rhosus, the ship's then-captain, Boris Prokoshev, told NBC News on Thursday.

It was en route from the Georgian port of Batumi to Mozambique where it was to be used as fertilizer, he said. Diab, the prime minister, said the stockpile had been stored at the Beirut port for six years without any "preventive measures" to protect it."


So at the very least, it looks like Diab failed to secure the area as he should have.

Then there is this tidbit from Gulf News:

"Lebanon's General Security chief Abbas Ibrahim said the material had been confiscated years earlier and stored in the warehouse, located close to Beirut's shopping and nightlife districts."

So, if I may ask, how fucking stupid and lazy do Lebanon's leaders have to be to allow something this flammable to be right by shopping and nightlife districts?

It's nice to see that the U.S. is sending aid though. Must be that benevolent president Bwoken hates:

"Humanitarian aid and condolences continued to pour in, with the first U.S. Air Force C-17 flight delivering relief on Thursday carrying food and medical supplies, the U.S. Central Command said in a statement."

Sounds like Lebanon could use a leader as managerially and organizationally adept as the current U.S. president. He certainly would do a better job than Hassan Diab.



Grief turns to fury as Beirut struggles to clean up after massive blast


Beirut blast: What we know about the Lebanon explosions so far
Published: August 05, 2020

 
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One Lebanese politician is blaming this on Hezbollah, for neglect at the very least.

It's hard to tell what's worse - having a Democratic governor/mayor in the USA or being a Lebanese citizen with the political class they have there. That's a true toss-up.


'It's crystal clear Hezbollah are in charge of the port and warehouse': Leading Lebanese politician blames terrorist group and 'corrupt' government for catastrophic explosion – as aerial images reveal blast even sank a cruise ship

Bahaa Hariri, whose father, Prime Minister Rafiq, was assassinated in 2005, said last night everyone in the city knew Hezbollah controlled Beirut's port and airport and it was inconceivable that the authorities did not know the deadly ammonium nitrate was stored in a warehouse there.



 

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However, at this point I don't think anyone rational minded will dispute that this is the worst worldwide pandemic in 100 years, encompassing all corners of our planet.

No, actually the pandemics of 1958 (Asian flu) and 1969 (Hong Kong Flu) were far worse than covid-19. But covid is probably the worst pandemic psychologically in the last hundred years, if not more. The hysteria and unnecessary misery imposed on humanity by itself probably is unprecedented.

What I get from this new world of ours is that this globe has shrunk significantly and things are not going to go back to status quo, especially if it takes longer to get a vaccine. We must adapt, and confront this situation with a coordinated effort.

Are you sure that you would want to coordinate with New York Democrats after how badly they screwed up? I'm not sure that's a good idea for the rest of the world.
 

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Lol.....now that teeinted reported he is okay, I can let loose with some wisecracks. Bwoken will probably blame this incident on the U.S.'s "genocidal war ideology" - which he never was able to define the numerous times I asked him to, but apparently considers to be the most dangerous force in the world, aside from "racism" and "homophobia." The irony is that to the extent that this "genocidal war ideology" phenomenon exists it emanates from a political class in the U.S. that Bwoken says he hates but fundamentally agrees with. It's also ironic to see Bwoken insult U.S. leaders, particularly Trump and Republicans, for supposedly being incompetent, while the leaders of his native country just pulled one of the most royal fuck-ups anyone can imagine. Now I am all for saying that Democrats are incompetent (just look at Portland, NYC, and Chicago) but it's not fair of Broken to lump all Americans, particularly the numerous high IQ Republican governors, in with the dumbass Democrats. It's totally unfair of him to generalize that way.

Anyhow, it appears from the reports that I have read that this incident was mainly the result of inexcusable carelessness and neglect on the part of the Lebanese government. It looks like Prime Minister Hassan Diab is Lebanon's equivalent of Andrew Cuomo, Phil Murphy, or Gretchen Whitmer (three Democratic governors who have terribly mishandled the Covid crisis in their respective states). As NBC News explained:

"Lebanese Prime Minister Hassan Diab blamed Tuesday's massive blast on 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate, a chemical used in fertilizer and bombs, which had been stockpiled in a warehouse by the port and blew up.

The ammonium nitrate that caused the blast arrived in Beirut Port in the fall of 2013 on a Russian-owned cargo ship named the Rhosus, the ship's then-captain, Boris Prokoshev, told NBC News on Thursday.

It was en route from the Georgian port of Batumi to Mozambique where it was to be used as fertilizer, he said. Diab, the prime minister, said the stockpile had been stored at the Beirut port for six years without any "preventive measures" to protect it."


So at the very least, it looks like Diab failed to secure the area as he should have.

Then there is this tidbit from Gulf News:

"Lebanon's General Security chief Abbas Ibrahim said the material had been confiscated years earlier and stored in the warehouse, located close to Beirut's shopping and nightlife districts."

So, if I may ask, how fucking stupid and lazy do Lebanon's leaders have to be to allow something this flammable to be right by shopping and nightlife districts?

It's nice to see that the U.S. is sending aid though. Must be that benevolent president Bwoken hates:

"Humanitarian aid and condolences continued to pour in, with the first U.S. Air Force C-17 flight delivering relief on Thursday carrying food and medical supplies, the U.S. Central Command said in a statement."

Sounds like Lebanon could use a leader as managerially and organizationally adept as the current U.S. president. He certainly would do a better job than Hassan Diab.



Grief turns to fury as Beirut struggles to clean up after massive blast


Beirut blast: What we know about the Lebanon explosions so far
Published: August 05, 2020


Wanted to check in to assure everyone I'm OK an this is what I run into.

To be clear, I'll keep this straightforward.

You fucking racist piece of shit: hundreds are dead. Over 5000 wounded. The city is blown to pieces. 300,000 people are homeless. I've completely lost my apartment with my girlfriend and the only reason I'm alive is we weren't there.

That you'd use a tragedy like that, which as it stands, is literally one of the biggest 5 blasts to rock the world outside of times of war (some have said the third strongest aside form Hiroshima and Nagasaki... I forget who was responsible for this), to score points here with someone who literally just lost a house, regarding a tragedy that has affected everyone is really on brand with a racist piece of garbage like you.

As for this: "Sounds like Lebanon could use a leader as managerially and organizationally adept as the current U.S. president. He certainly would do a better job than Hassan Diab."

As incompetent as Trump is, this is without a doubt true. If you'd read anything about Lebanon you'd understand that there was a literal revolution here less than a year ago. This country is a joke. I never claimed otherwise. Except, we're an insignificant small republic in the Middle East. We don't claim to be the greatest country in the world, the land of the free and the home of the brave, before electing a joke of a president who can barely spell.

Now with that out of the way, I'll keep it simple: I hope Hezbollah seize to exist. They're the biggest plague hampering this country, in addition to the political ruling class that's been ravaging Lebanon for 40 years..in large part as a result of your fucking country's fuck ups and awful foreign strategy which allowed Iran and its allies to increase their influence on the region. That strategy which started with the disastrous Republican George W. Bush and continued with everyone's favorite charismatic Democratic war criminal Barrack Obama.

(as a quick aside re: genocidal ideology: how many Native Americans remain? Right. Moving on).

The second biggest threat beyond Iran, is Israel. You know, your country's biggest ally. The same illegitimate state that you guys have been arming for years and have spend a near century massacring Palestinians and Lebanese. The same illegitimate state that Trump has been doing bis best to protect.

But for you to quote Hassan Diab, whom you know nothing about is hilarious. He was hand selected by Hezbollah to be the PM, and is one of their biggest allies. The only reason he's turned on them is they've scapegoated him for this since people are obviously angry and Hezbollah want to wash their hands away from this.

And by the way, one huge possibility is that an Israeli missile targeted this, and there is irrefutable proof of heavy Israeli aerial presence in the area seconds before and after the blast (we all heard them). Of course, Hezbollah can't acknowledge this because if this is true, they have to retaliate, which would lead to a full scale war that would surely spell their doom.

Again, just wanted to highlight how clueless you are, but also what a legitimately awful human being you are. The maliciousness of that post above really highlights what a fucking hypocrite you are. The same piece of garbage who (rightly) criticized Democrats for politicizing COVID-19 jumps at the immediate opportunity to push a non sequitur agenda about Democrats and the United States.

So, with all of this out of the way, allow me to once again congratulate you on being as clueless about the rest of the world as you are about the United States, but hey, at least your complete lack of humanity is consistent.

Imagine someone lecturing anyone about anything when his post literally reads: "now that i know this one person is physically OK, and despite the hundreds dead, thousands wounded, I'm going to try to score political points on that same person who went through the trauma with a post about a country I literally know nothing about and falsely assume his political beliefs."

A far right American in a nutshell.

PS: How many similar (to some extent) explosions has your country caused over the years? Literally thousands. That's not debatable. But hey, looting. killing and destroying is OK as long as it's on other people's turf. The home of the brave indeed.
 
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Broken's post included some insightful comments about the situation in the Middle East and Lebanon itself, but it once again demonstrated how fucking ignorant he is about the United States.


To be clear, I'll keep this straightforward.

You fucking racist piece of shit: hundreds are dead. Over 5000 wounded. The city is blown to pieces. 300,000 people are homeless. I've completely lost my apartment with my girlfriend and the only reason I'm alive is we weren't there.

Lol.....there you go. It didn't take you long to throw out that completely hollow and vacuous "r" term for pejorative effect. What does "racism" have to do with this situation? Is it now racist to think that intellectually speaking you are an idiot? I guess we can add that to the ever-changing and ever-evolving list of definitions for the term.

That said, even though I think that, intellectually speaking, you are a vile turd who is woefully ignorant of the United States, I prayed for your safety. I'm glad you're okay, although as far as your property damage goes I don't have much more sympathy for you than I do the left-wing residents of Minneapolis, who just saw their city be entirely trashed as a result of the leaders they voted into power. At least in your case it appears that you loathe the leaders of your country, whereas the residents of the cities in the USA that are being trashed and looted right now with skyrocketing crime rates (NYC, Portland, Seattle, etc.) have all joyously supported the Democratic mayors and governors and council men and women of their cities that they so richly deserve.

That you'd use a tragedy like that, which as it stands, is literally one of the biggest 5 blasts to rock the world outside of times of war (some have said the third strongest aside form Hiroshima and Nagasaki... I forget who was responsible for this),

It is funny how you always bring up Hiroshima and Nagasaki, without the slightest bit of even-handedness. That incident is a highly debated question. Some historians estimate that in the long run over 10 million lives were saved from use of the bomb. Personally I haven't researched it enough to have much of an opinion, but clearly the issue is more complex than you make it out to be. The USA did not enter the war with the intent to drop atomic bombs on other countries. The war in the Pacific got to the point where U.S. leaders made a difficult decision to finish the war. I'm not endorsing it; I am just saying that the situation was not as cut-and-dry as you make it out to be. There are many Filipino-Americans to this day who are grateful the USA did what it did to Japan, because the Japanese were utterly brutal toward numerous groups in Asia.

Speaking of Japan, it is highly ironic for you all of people with your incessant referencing of "racism" to give Japan a pass for allying with the Nazis in the most brutal war in history. That's not to say that fact alone justifies dropping the bomb, but it is to say that the Japanese were hardly innocent and they allied themselves to the Nazi killing machine. And in the Pacific they were utterly brutal to their enemies.

Finally, if you do want to blame the USA for using the bomb without any even-handedness, I would remind you that the president who signed off on the decision was Harry Truman, a left-wing Democrat at the time. And the president who got the USA into the war was Franklin Roosevelt, another left-wing Democrat. Neither of those two were "far-right Americans." Far from it. Maybe you should read up a little bit about American foreign policy so you aren't as clueless about what constitute right-wing and left-wing positions.

to score points here with someone who literally just lost a house, regarding a tragedy that has affected everyone is really on brand with a racist piece of garbage like you.

Again, I prayed for your safety, but based on the vile and ignorant things you have said about right-wing Americans, there is a part of me that does not mind that you got to feel what it's like after the cretinous left-wing activist scum in the United States (Antifa, Black Lives Matter, etc.) that you agree with and side with run roughshod over cities. Minneapolis just went through the same kind of thing that Beirut did - the difference being that Beirut suffered from an asinine government blunder, while people that you agree with ideologically massacred Minneapolis with the intent to destroy and pillage. What occurred in Beirut was likely an accident. What occurred in Minneapolis was orchestrated intentionally by people who think like you and Moxie.

Imagine if Beirut was in the condition it was because of rampaging mobs burning places down and vandalizing buildings, instead of an explosion that occurred accidentally. You would probably think ISIS did it. Well, the U.S. has its own versions of ISIS - and they are people who agree with you and Moxie ideologically.

As incompetent as Trump is

How the fuck is Trump incompetent? He became president of the United States with the political establishments of both parties, most major corporations, and almost the entire political media opposing his candidacy. No "incompetent" person could pull off such a feat. Then, as president, he has (among other things) brought about the lowest unemployment rate in over 50 years including the lowest-ever recorded for black Americans and Hispanic Americans, respectively.

Was Trump "incompetent" for supplying New York state with all the facilities necessary to house elderly Covid patients, which the Democratic governor chose not to use? Is it Trump's fault that the Democratic governor sent elderly Covid patients into nursing homes instead of wide-open medical facilities Trump authorized the construction of? Was that Trump being "incompetent"?

We don't claim to be the greatest country in the world, the land of the free and the home of the brave, before electing a joke of a president who can barely spell.

Trump is anything but a joke. He isn't the most rhetorically adept individual, but the way that he manages and directs on policy issues is highly intelligent. Also, many of his tweets are framed very well; they are derided simply because people don't like the content of what he is saying. But everything that he posted about the Russia investigation, for example, was exactly on point.

Now with that out of the way, I'll keep it simple: I hope Hezbollah seize to exist. They're the biggest plague hampering this country, in addition to the political ruling class that's been ravaging Lebanon for 40 years..in large part as a result of your fucking country's fuck ups and awful foreign strategy which allowed Iran and its allies to increase their influence on the region. That strategy which started with the disastrous Republican George W. Bush and continued with everyone's favorite charismatic Democratic war criminal Barrack Obama.

If you knew anything about American foreign policy ideas, you would know that the one group that was consistently critical of both Bush and Obama for their Middle Eastern interventions were "far right Americans."

(as a quick aside re: genocidal ideology: how many Native Americans remain? Right. Moving on).

What a stupid fucking argument.....what in the world do the clashes that European settlers had with Indian tribes in the 17th and 18th century over territory have to do with secular democratic ideologues in the 20th century waging war on Japan or Iraq? Absolutely nothing. For you to lump the two together is completely stupid.

At any rate, most of the Native Americans died from disease and the North American continent was very sparsely populated before the Europeans arrived. That isn't to say they were treated wonderfully. But most countries and civilizations are established through conquest. The USA is not unique in that regard.

Speaking of which, as a quick aside, how many Christians remain in the Middle East? Right. Moving on.

The second biggest threat beyond Iran, is Israel. You know, your country's biggest ally. The same illegitimate state that you guys have been arming for years and have spend a near century massacring Palestinians and Lebanese. The same illegitimate state that Trump has been doing bis best to protect.

This paragraph right here perfectly encapsulates how clueless you are, on the most fundamental level, about the American political scene. Your remarks are also deeply, deeply ironic.....so let me give you a quick lesson. I have been charging Moxie $30 per for these. I am going to up your price to $50. But I will give you a first-time discount for edification.

First, the primary practical reason that the United States is tied to is Israel is that the American Jewish community is extremely wealthy/influential and wields immense influence on American government through AIPAC (the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee).

Second - and this is where your cluelessness really comes into focus - the media that you get your information from on the United States (CNN, New York Times, Washington Post) is overwhelmingly run and contributed to by left-wing Jews with an immense animus toward white Christian Gentiles (an animus that you share). It is no secret - albeit one that no one is supposed to say out loud - that Jews are disproportionately present in in media and journalism. Clearly, you aren't much of a fan of Jews, but you share with them a revulsion for white Christians, which is why you gobble up the CNN-NYT bullshit like it's nothing.

Third, for you to criticize Trump for supporting Israel is utterly laughable. Because of the realities that I described in points 1 and 2, it is virtually impossible for anyone to rise to the presidency of the United States by being as anti-Israel as you want them to be. The only way you can be a critic of Israel in the US and somewhat get away with it is if you are a black Muslim (like Ilhan Omar). Being a black Muslim bestows victim status, and because Jewish leftists view black Muslims as allies against evil white Christians, black Muslims are permitted (a little bit) to criticize Israel. Other than that, there is no way that someone can run on an anti-Israeli platform in the United States.

Now you might criticize Trump for being too pro-Israel, but he simply has to be in order to keep his only ally in the American power establishment on his side: the military. If he doesn't have the military with him, who else does he have? The bureaucracies and the media loathe him.

But for you to quote Hassan Diab, whom you know nothing about is hilarious. He was hand selected by Hezbollah to be the PM, and is one of their biggest allies. The only reason he's turned on them is they've scapegoated him for this since people are obviously angry and Hezbollah want to wash their hands away from this.

I never claimed to know much about Diab, except that he clearly messed up terribly by allowing the ammonium nitrate to sit in a stockpile so close to the city.

And by the way, one huge possibility is that an Israeli missile targeted this, and there is irrefutable proof of heavy Israeli aerial presence in the area seconds before and after the blast (we all heard them). Of course, Hezbollah can't acknowledge this because if this is true, they have to retaliate, which would lead to a full scale war that would surely spell their doom.

One person who would be sympathetic to your anti-Israeli interpretation would be Michael Scheuer, a "far-right American" who has been blackballed by all the major TV stations for criticizing Israel, despite having excellent qualifications. Maybe that will give you some idea of why Trump has to take a pro-Israel stand.

Again, just wanted to highlight how clueless you are, but also what a legitimately awful human being you are. The maliciousness of that post above really highlights what a fucking hypocrite you are. The same piece of garbage who (rightly) criticized Democrats for politicizing COVID-19 jumps at the immediate opportunity to push a non sequitur agenda about Democrats and the United States.

The cheap shots on the Democrats are more than richly deserved. And yes, I stand by comment that leading Democratic leaders are as stupid and as incompetent as Hassan Diab appears to have been in allowing that ammonium nitrate to sit right by the city.

A far right American in a nutshell.

Lmfao.....you ignorant fucking jackass, if you knew anything about the U.S. you would know that the one group that has consistently agreed with your perspective on American foreign policy are so-called "far right Americans." The two most prominent names are Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul. They opposed Bush's war in Iraq as well as Obama's interventions. They also criticize Israel. But instead of crediting them, you call them "far right Americans" as a nasty pejorative, you fucking dumbass.

And, btw, you have never credited Trump a single time for avoiding the interventions of Bush and Obama despite being pressured from many sides to intervene in Iran and especially Syria. Why can't you credit Trump for that? Oh wait, I know. Because you are a total bigot and full of too much hate to possibly credit Trump. And crediting him would also undermine your stupid characterization of Trump as "incompetent," which he most certainly is not.

PS: How many similar (to some extent) explosions has your country caused over the years? Literally thousands.

Yeah, and the most consistent critics of those interventions have been "far right conservatives" such as Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul that you smear as racist. And big bad Trump has not repeated the actions of either Bush or Obama that you condemn, yet you give him no credit for that.

That's not debatable. But hey, looting. killing and destroying is OK as long as it's on other people's turf. The home of the brave indeed.

Again, "far right conservatives" are the main group in America that has consistently condemned the Middle East foreign policy of the United States that you condemn. But you hardly even know who they are.

That said, if you want to talk about looting, killing, and destroying, that is what the scum in Antifa and Black Lives Matter did in Minneapolis and numerous other American cities in recent months. Yup, your ideological allies, who scream out the now meaningless term "racist" like it's nothing, just as you do. It wasn't "far right conservatives" who were responsible for that, just as it wasn't "far right conservatives" who were responsible for the Middle Eastern foreign policy that you object to.

As a final note, I will add this: when Trump was campaigning in 2016, we were told that he would usher in an age of "fascism" that would endanger people of color in the United States and that his supporters would feel emboldened to attack minorities. Needless to say, none of that has come to pass, and actually black and Hispanic unemployment levels reached all-time lows under Trump until the Democrats used Covid to tank the economy and hurt Trump. But recently in Minneapolis, there were numerous Mexican restaurants vandalized, an Indian restaurant burned to the ground, and African hair salon burned to the ground (among other damages). And who did this? Left-wing rioters and vandals (both black and white) in Antifa and Black Lives Matter who agree with you and Moxie and Tinfoil Federturd on social issues.

Yup, it wasn't Trump supporters attacking the businesses of non-white immigrant groups. It was left-wingers in Antifa and Black Lives Matter. The people who agree with you.

Those "far right conservatives" were peacefully minding their own business.
 
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Moxie, I know you were rooting very hard against Sweden, but the results are in and they were very successful. Sorry to have to break it to you:



 

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@brokenshoelace I'm so sorry that you've lost your house, and that your city is in shambles. Thanks for coming back here to check in. I know it's only cold comfort that you're still amongst the living, when you've lost everything, and your city is in extremis. From NYC to Beirut, I send you sincerest condolences, and whatever empathy I could possibly share with you, from one city that might know what it feels like to be "broken," to another.
 

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@brokenshoelace I'm so sorry that you've lost your house, and that your city is in shambles. Thanks for coming back here to check in. I know it's only cold comfort that you're still amongst the living, when you've lost everything, and your city is in extremis. From NYC to Beirut, I send you sincerest condolences, and whatever empathy I could possibly share with you, from one city that might know what it feels like to be "broken," to another.


At least the leaders in Lebanon didn’t send elderly Covid patients into nursing homes like your dumbass Democratic Party representatives in New York state, or suppress the use of HCQ (a drug used by virtually every other country to combat Covid) out of hatred for Trump and cost thousands of lives across the USA as a result, or allow a never-ending homicide spree like the idiot Democrats in charge of Chicago. I can’t say that I send my condolences to people who vote for rejects like De Blasio and Lightfoot.

You must have also missed that shot Broken took (and it isn’t the first time) at your cult hero Barack Obama for being a war criminal. Allow me to ask: did you also feel empathy for the people in the wedding party in Yemen that Obama droned in December 2013? Why do you always dodge whenever Broken attacks your hero Obama, which he has done repeatedly?

A time when Moxie did not show empathy, even though the New Slavetrader Times reported on it:

Drone Strike in Yemen Hits Wedding Convoy, Killing 11

By Robert F. Worth
Dec. 12, 2013

 

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Lol.....now that teeinted reported he is okay, I can let loose with some wisecracks. Bwoken will probably blame this incident on the U.S.'s "genocidal war ideology" - which he never was able to define the numerous times I asked him to, but apparently considers to be the most dangerous force in the world, aside from "racism" and "homophobia." The irony is that to the extent that this "genocidal war ideology" phenomenon exists it emanates from a political class in the U.S. that Bwoken says he hates but fundamentally agrees with. It's also ironic to see Bwoken insult U.S. leaders, particularly Trump and Republicans, for supposedly being incompetent, while the leaders of his native country just pulled one of the most royal fuck-ups anyone can imagine. Now I am all for saying that Democrats are incompetent (just look at Portland, NYC, and Chicago) but it's not fair of Broken to lump all Americans, particularly the numerous high IQ Republican governors, in with the dumbass Democrats. It's totally unfair of him to generalize that way.

Anyhow, it appears from the reports that I have read that this incident was mainly the result of inexcusable carelessness and neglect on the part of the Lebanese government. It looks like Prime Minister Hassan Diab is Lebanon's equivalent of Andrew Cuomo, Phil Murphy, or Gretchen Whitmer (three Democratic governors who have terribly mishandled the Covid crisis in their respective states). As NBC News explained:

"Lebanese Prime Minister Hassan Diab blamed Tuesday's massive blast on 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate, a chemical used in fertilizer and bombs, which had been stockpiled in a warehouse by the port and blew up.

The ammonium nitrate that caused the blast arrived in Beirut Port in the fall of 2013 on a Russian-owned cargo ship named the Rhosus, the ship's then-captain, Boris Prokoshev, told NBC News on Thursday.

It was en route from the Georgian port of Batumi to Mozambique where it was to be used as fertilizer, he said. Diab, the prime minister, said the stockpile had been stored at the Beirut port for six years without any "preventive measures" to protect it."


So at the very least, it looks like Diab failed to secure the area as he should have.

Then there is this tidbit from Gulf News:

"Lebanon's General Security chief Abbas Ibrahim said the material had been confiscated years earlier and stored in the warehouse, located close to Beirut's shopping and nightlife districts."

So, if I may ask, how fucking stupid and lazy do Lebanon's leaders have to be to allow something this flammable to be right by shopping and nightlife districts?

It's nice to see that the U.S. is sending aid though. Must be that benevolent president Bwoken hates:

"Humanitarian aid and condolences continued to pour in, with the first U.S. Air Force C-17 flight delivering relief on Thursday carrying food and medical supplies, the U.S. Central Command said in a statement."

Sounds like Lebanon could use a leader as managerially and organizationally adept as the current U.S. president. He certainly would do a better job than Hassan Diab.



Grief turns to fury as Beirut struggles to clean up after massive blast


Beirut blast: What we know about the Lebanon explosions so far
Published: August 05, 2020


Reported he's OK? BS has had his home incinerated and was lucky not to be there when it happened. Stop being such a twat. I don't agree with a lot of people's political opinions on this board, but this is still some sort of community, right?