What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

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What.the.Hell.

The US still leads the world in daily new case COVID infections, close to 43000 in a day.

At this rate we will be banned from traveling anywhere overseas for a long time Even Canada (Yes, Canada!!) won't let us go there.
 

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He's a member of Forza Italia, Berlusconi's party (center-right, btw.) He's been shouting the same stuff as Trump, Bolsonaro, et al, since the beginning: it's a little flu, go ahead and go out, etc., but he's a fairly lone wolf on this.

Cuomo and De Blasio said the same things in early March. Pelosi said the same thing in early February. This position of "it's okay to go out" has been correct 98% of the time. Ironically, the only place where it may have not been advisable was in NYC, where of course the incompetent Democratic leaders encouraged people to go out. A brief lockdown in New York City while leaving 95% of the rest of the country functioning normally would have been sufficient to combat this very weak and overhyped virus.

So the Sgarbi-Trump position was almost entirely correct.
 

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I was beginning to think it was witchcraft that he hadn't got the virus yet. What a prick...

And he started wearing mask only now.
IMO it's a matter of time before his namerican counterpart idiot-in-chief follows him. Given their age, I would not be surprised if their cases evolved serious like Boris case or more, including premature death. But I don't wish it to them, even if objectively, the world would benefit from such outcome.
Usually a personal highly emotional, "near death" experience changes most people somehow. Would idiots-in-chief be subject of any positive change of mind i.e. a change of their attitude towards covid19 in this case? I doubt because even a serious shock therapy is unlikely to break their stupidity.
 

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And what explains Trump? Years of being a germaphobe makes him a natural at physical distancing and obsessive hand washing?
Not sure Bolsonaro was being as careful getting anyone tested who was going to be near him. Didn’t see the ora buffoon hugging voters
 

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Not sure Bolsonaro was being as careful getting anyone tested who was going to be near him. Didn’t see the ora buffoon hugging voters
That's what I'm saying...he's a long-time germaphobe, so that's his built-in super-power. The only thing he's hugged lately is the flag. That probably includes his wife and kids, except, maybe Ivanka. *ick*
 

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That's what I'm saying...he's a long-time germaphobe, so that's his built-in super-power. The only thing he's hugged lately is the flag. That probably includes his wife and kids, except, maybe Ivanka. *ick*


Look at you invoking Book of Leviticus morality.....apparently you share the Old Testament's aversion to incest. So why do you ignore what that same passage says about gays?
 

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And would you look at this.....Federberg's boy Chrissy Steele just got busted for lying about Trump-Russia collusion in a UK court. Funny how Federturd won't report on that on this board.

Are you going to admit you were dead wrong on the collusion issue Federbergy? Come on, man up and say it, just like Chrissy Steele will have to pay damages. The whole Trump-Russia collusion storyline was a farce from the beginning.


Dossier Author Christopher Steele Must Pay Damages Over 'Inaccurate' Claims
Wednesday, 08 July 2020

 

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Look at you invoking Book of Leviticus morality.....apparently you share the Old Testament's aversion to incest. So why do you ignore what that same passage says about gays?
It doesn't take your Leviticus to tell me that incest is gross. If it's against gays, I have no time for it.
 

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It doesn't take your Leviticus to tell me that incest is gross. If it's against gays, I have no time for it.


I am well-aware of your position on gays. I know that nothing is more important to you in the world than that gays be venerated and honored. But I am just asking on what basis you find homosexuality to be a glorious practice but you find incest to be “gross.” Why is one okay but the other is “gross”? Aren’t you being incestophobic?
 

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So now the UK health minister is saying the obvious and questioning these bogus death totals from Covid…..I really do hope that in the long run all of the people in health and government who have lied through their teeth about how severe Covid actually is are held accountable.

Hopefully Britbox is taking note of this news (which I think is only the tip of the iceberg of fraud related to "Covid"). I'm surprised that he fell for this scam as much as he did because normally he is smarter than everyone:


UK health minister calls for ‘urgent review’ after scientists expose ‘over-exaggeration’ of Covid-19 death toll
17 Jul, 2020 11:38



"The analysis conducted by the two scientific statisticians showed that PHE has been recording the deaths of people who have previously tested positive for the disease as a coronavirus death – no matter if they had fully recovered from the virus before they died.

A patient who has tested positive, but successfully treated and discharged from hospital, will still be counted as a Covid death even if they had a heart attack or were run over by a bus three months later."
 

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And, since everyone on this board kisses China’s ass non-stop, here is a remarkable story. If Trump merely says he wants to be tough on ISIS, he is Islamophobic. But China is apparently allowed to pack Muslims into trains and ship them off.

Where is some low-information whore to CNN like Federbergy or BrokenFuckFace condemning this? We can only imagine if 1/1000th of this was done by a right-wing party somewhere in Europe or North America.


 

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As Moxie says, not all groups are a monolith. Indeed, not every Brit is like Federberg apparently. A great article by Peter Hitchens here:


PETER HITCHENS: Face masks turn us into voiceless submissives - and it’s not science forcing us to wear them, it’s politics
By Peter Hitchens for The Mail on Sunday
18 July 2020


 

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As Moxie says, not all groups are a monolith. Indeed, not every Brit is like Federberg apparently. A great article by Peter Hitchens here:


PETER HITCHENS: Face masks turn us into voiceless submissives - and it’s not science forcing us to wear them, it’s politics
By Peter Hitchens for The Mail on Sunday
18 July 2020


Brasil,s president Bolsonaro started wearing mask when he got infected. My opinion is: it's a late and selfish response of an irresponsible person.
And what is it in your opinion? That Bolsonaro was "brave" when he was asymptomatic and now he turned into "submissiveness" after he became sick?
 

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As Moxie says, not all groups are a monolith. Indeed, not every Brit is like Federberg apparently. A great article by Peter Hitchens here:


PETER HITCHENS: Face masks turn us into voiceless submissives - and it’s not science forcing us to wear them, it’s politics
By Peter Hitchens for The Mail on Sunday
18 July 2020


I'm a Brit. We're all different.
 

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The verdict is in, ladies and gentlemen. The Swedes were right. The lockdowns were unnecessary and DUMB.

Put this in your pipes and smoke it:

 

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So now the UK health minister is saying the obvious and questioning these bogus death totals from Covid…..I really do hope that in the long run all of the people in health and government who have lied through their teeth about how severe Covid actually is are held accountable.

Hopefully Britbox is taking note of this news (which I think is only the tip of the iceberg of fraud related to "Covid"). I'm surprised that he fell for this scam as much as he did because normally he is smarter than everyone:


UK health minister calls for ‘urgent review’ after scientists expose ‘over-exaggeration’ of Covid-19 death toll
17 Jul, 2020 11:38



"The analysis conducted by the two scientific statisticians showed that PHE has been recording the deaths of people who have previously tested positive for the disease as a coronavirus death – no matter if they had fully recovered from the virus before they died.

A patient who has tested positive, but successfully treated and discharged from hospital, will still be counted as a Covid death even if they had a heart attack or were run over by a bus three months later."


An investigation is taking place in the UK on the over-reporting of cases. I said a while ago that the US and UK were probably over-reporting and globally, there is probably under-reporting... For instance, reports from Iran indicate that the reported deaths might be a third of the real number. I suspect Russia and China are both under-reporting significantly.

If the UK is reporting COVID deaths that includes anybody that has had COVID ever, then that's clearly going to cause a major discrepancy.

On the other issue "DIED FROM COVID" or "DIED WITH COVID" - the UK has always reported infectious diseases on death certificates. It's not something new, so no conspiracy from that angle. Clearly, if proven, the former charge, "EVER HAD COVID" raises a lot of issues if true.

One thing I was looking at early on was the net monthly deaths against a historical trend. The UK bumped up significantly early on in the pandemic. That tells you COVID is very real. However, that monthly net death rate is below average right now. That indicates that COVID is claiming lives a few months earlier than you'd otherwise expect (i.e. statistically many people who were on a pathway to death), rather than being some sort of modern-day bubonic plague. There are plenty of random outliers though too.
 
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