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Trump claimed in a recent press conference that he was in a near-crash in a helicopter in CA. That he was with Willie Brown. Turns out, he was never in a helicopter with Willie Brown, though he was in one with Gov. Jerry Brown. It didn't go down, or have any problems. Also, it turns out, he was in a tricky helicopter landing, many years earlier, with a completely different Black man. In New Jersey. He confused his black men? And his timeline? And which part of the country he was in?

We should talk about Trump's cognitive issues.



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Donald Trump's recent helicopter story has sparked confusion, as he mistakenly claimed to have flown with Willie Brown instead of Jerry Brown, leading to questions about his accuracy and memory. What may matter in an election debate and what could be important in a public discussion and influence voter support. Impact on changes in voter support without affecting the final outcome.

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We all know this. As utterly fucking useless as she is, even if Trump wins (he's currently ahead in polls), they won't allow him win as they've spent far too much on the "wars" in Ukraine and Gaza, Lebanon and Iran to possibly let him win. The US economy is beyond fucked but they can't possibly back down now on those conflicts. Over 3 trillion in national debt can't be fixed any other way. I hadn't bothered posting on this thread (or any for that matter) in a long time but it's laughable that a lying, unelected embarrassment such as Harris who got barely 1% of the vote last time is up against Trump. It truly shows the power of the propaganda in the US and globally. She was always considered an absolute clown (hence the barely 1% of the vote last time round) and suddenly she's the best thing since sliced bread to the easily fooled NPCs. The anyone but Trump is a total joke at this stage and has been for a long time. I don't like him either but he's the better choice between the 2 and it's not even close. You're voting for higher taxes, edging closer and closer to WW3 and for a person who supports a party of dopes who can't even define what a woman is and actively push for censorship and genital mutilation. To be clear, Trump is a complete dope too but he doesn't shy away from interviews or have to rig or cheat his way to victory.

We can only hope that at least if WW3 does come to fruition, the nuclear winter will take out a good chunk of the moronic NPCs 'cos those who vote for her will have brought this on the whole planet if that cackling alcoholic Indian (she's not black and never was) pos wins...

Watch interviews where she says she's Indian or Asian. She suddenly decided she was black to try and steal some votes. What an absolutely despicable person with zero morals.
 
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Seeing as so many have been programmed to orange man bad, here's a reality check for you...

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The outright ignorance of such a large swath of the population is just about unbearable to deal with! It's all about what makes them comfortable instead of what's good for the country! It's pathetic & we deserve whatever happens if that orange POS ever gains power again! Lucky I'm a Senior & don't have to deal w/ so many treacherous people surrounding me acting like total morons! It's pathetic that all can be forgotten & forgiven like Jan.6th, a fight during the transfer of power, & countless illegal acts perpetrated by that ape & his minions! I have no words how dusgusted I am w/ all of it! Having "W" was bad enuf; now we see all U need is an "R" behind your name & it's all good! FK. that & fk. all of them! :angry-face::zippermouthface::face-with-symbols-on-mouth::anxious-face-with-sweat::face-vomiting:
 
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The outright ignorance of such a large swath of the population is just about unbearable to deal with! It's all about what makes them comfortable instead of what's good for the country! It's pathetic & we deserve whatever happens if that orange POS ever gains power again! Lucky I'm a Senior & don't have to deal w/ so many treacherous people surrounding me acting like total morons! It's pathetic that all can be forgotten & forgiven like Jan.6th, a fight during the transfer of power, & countless illegal acts perpetrated by that ape & his minions! I have no words how dusgusted I am w/ all of it! Having "W" was bad enuf; now we see all U need is an "R" behind your name & it's all good! FK. that & fk. all of them! :angry-face::zippermouthface::face-with-symbols-on-mouth::anxious-face-with-sweat::face-vomiting:
I'm with you on the bold part but for different reasons. Kamala Harris is a disaster and will get us all nuked. The ignorance lies with those supporting the warmongering side.
 

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Which is the warmongering side?
Are you for real? Laughable that 2 people liked that shit. The so called democrats obviously. You know, the idiots supplying weapons to Ukraine and on the verge of authorizing them to launch long range NATO supplied missiles into Russia. A massive red line and a massively avoidable one. We're edging closer and closer to one dumb move from these idiots on a daily basis. Sadly both Trump and the dipshit "democrats" are both Zionist scum supporting Israel but Trump is still the lesser of 2 evils if you want to avoid WW3. The current idiots in power are toying with blowing up nuclear bases in Iran though so we could well be fucked from either the conflict in Ukraine or the middle east.
 
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Which is the warmongering side?

The disease is spreading as rightwingers have collectively lost their fk'n minds! They have no shame about not just misrepresenting the facts, but making up their own calling them "alternate facts!" These are educated people who can barely look you in the eye as they make up $#!t out of whole cloth! JD Vance admitted he made up that story about Haitians eating cats & dogs! He believes he's entitled to that LIE b/c the mainstream media won't pay enuf attn. to Republicans! Why would anyone w/ half a brain want to see or even listen to LIES they produce? They figure if they say it enuf times it'll stick; and it works! Half the country are delusional AF & there's nothing that can be done w/ them outside of mass genocide to save the country & m/b the planet! :angry-face::fearful-face::astonished-face::anxious-face-with-sweat::face-vomiting:
 

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The disease is spreading as rightwingers have collectively lost their fk'n minds! They have no shame about not just misrepresenting the facts, but making up their own calling them "alternate facts!" These are educated people who can barely look you in the eye as they make up $#!t out of whole cloth! JD Vance admitted he made up that story about Haitians eating cats & dogs! He believes he's entitled to that LIE b/c the mainstream media won't pay enuf attn. to Republicans! Why would anyone w/ half a brain want to see or even listen to LIES they produce? They figure if they say it enuf times it'll stick; and it works! Half the country are delusional AF & there's nothing that can be done w/ them outside of mass genocide to save the country & m/b the planet! :angry-face::fearful-face::astonished-face::anxious-face-with-sweat::face-vomiting:
You and millions worldwide need to look at the lies your side make up daily and stop the garbage of orange man bad and senile man and Indian woman good. It's embarrassing.
 

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^^^Notice the grammar school reaction of "what about ....?!" It's pathetic & it's a wonder the country survived the 4 yrs. of Trump's insanity! The assault on our Democracy Jan. 6th as he sends a mob to stop Congress from certifying the election was appalling! Those cops should have opened fire on those a-#oles & it w/b a great lesson for those animals to learn! :angry-face::astonished-face::yawningface::fearful-face::face-with-symbols-on-mouth:
 
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Are you for real? Laughable that 2 people liked that shit. The so called democrats obviously. You know, the idiots supplying weapons to Ukraine and on the verge of authorizing them to launch long range NATO supplied missiles into Russia. A massive red line and a massively avoidable one. We're edging closer and closer to one dumb move from these idiots on a daily basis. Sadly both Trump and the dipshit "democrats" are both Zionist scum supporting Israel but Trump is still the lesser of 2 evils if you want to avoid WW3. The current idiots in power are toying with blowing up nuclear bases in Iran though so we could well be fucked from either the conflict in Ukraine or the middle east.
See how uncontrolled your thoughts are? “Zionist scum supporting Israel.” This is typical of an ancient bigotry. You support Hamas, but the Jews are scum. Perhaps you’d Co-sign the 1988 Hamas covenant that threatens to kill Jews everywhere.

As for Ukraine, they were also attacked, but in your view, the attackers are the victims, and the ones who defend themselves are aggressors. Interesting. You presumably think of Putin as a benevolent Santa Claus kind of figure. The Baltic states know him and his type. That’s why they couldn’t wait to join NATO…
 

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See how uncontrolled your thoughts are? “Zionist scum supporting Israel.” This is typical of an ancient bigotry. You support Hamas, but the Jews are scum. Perhaps you’d Co-sign the 1988 Hamas covenant that threatens to kill Jews everywhere.

As for Ukraine, they were also attacked, but in your view, the attackers are the victims, and the ones who defend themselves are aggressors. Interesting. You presumably think of Putin as a benevolent Santa Claus kind of figure. The Baltic states know him and his type. That’s why they couldn’t wait to join NATO…
How the hell do you get I support Hamas out of this may I ask? Where did I say this? I'll tell you where. NOWHERE. You think all the protests at present supporting Palestine mean these people support Hamas? That's a clown attitude.

Looks like it's actually your thoughts that are uncontrolled by jumping to stupid conclusions. I don't support the killing of over 42,000 mostly women and children by Israel but according to you I support Hamas. That's the most fucked up bs I've read here in a long, long time.

The US and west started the trouble in Ukraine. Go read the history. Putin gave them ample warning to not expand NATO bases closer and closer to Russia but they wouldn't listen. If the situation was reversed and the US had Russian bases being built up all along their borders the trigger happy scum wouldn't have waited 5 minutes to attack them and you know it. Also it's hilarious propaganda. Note how they call it Russian invasion but American intervention and Israeli limited ground operation. Laughable but those who aren't morons can see thru their bs.
 

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How the hell do you get I support Hamas out of this may I ask? Where did I say this? I'll tell you where. NOWHERE. You think all the protests at present supporting Palestine mean these people support Hamas? That's a clown attitude.

Looks like it's actually your thoughts that are uncontrolled by jumping to stupid conclusions. I don't support the killing of over 42,000 mostly women and children by Israel but according to you I support Hamas. That's the most fucked up bs I've read here in a long, long time.

Why do you believe that “42,000 mostly women and children” have been killed?

Because Hamas told you that.

If you believe that Israel is wrong in this conflict, you support Hamas. You are wrong to do this. Hamas have to be destroyed and the fault for civilian deaths lies with them.
The US and west started the trouble in Ukraine. Go read the history. Putin gave them ample warning to not expand NATO bases closer and closer to Russia but they wouldn't listen. If the situation was reversed and the US had Russian bases being built up all along their borders the trigger happy scum wouldn't have waited 5 minutes to attack them and you know it. Also it's hilarious propaganda. Note how they call it Russian invasion but American intervention and Israeli limited ground operation. Laughable but those who aren't morons can see thru their bs.
Again, you’re calling people scum. You called the Jews scum and you’re using the word again here. Countries democratically voted to join NATO. Russia can’t dictate terms to the Baltic states anymore, and they joined NATO freely because the brief chaos that reigned in Russia after the happy fall of communism was thrown out with the arrival of Putin. You can use the word Scum now and I won’t argue. He didn’t however attack these countries when they joined NATO. He didn’t attack Finland when it joined NATO.

He didn’t state that when he attacked Ukraine that it was because of NATO. And he didn’t attack NATO at all. He attacked Ukraine, to protect Russians living there, according to his strange logic. If Russians lived in nearby countries, they can choose to go home to Russia but why would they do that, when they’re better off out of Russia?

None of this matters to Putin: he’d find any excuse to have started that war. The war was inevitable because Putin is a tyrant, and tyrants start wars. Tyrants grab land. Tyrants make themselves rich, kill their domestic enemies, don’t hold free elections. Don’t idealise this guy, he’s not a good guy. They know that in countries beside Russia, they know his type..
 

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Why do you believe that “42,000 mostly women and children” have been killed?

Because Hamas told you that.

If you believe that Israel is wrong in this conflict, you support Hamas. You are wrong to do this. Hamas have to be destroyed and the fault for civilian deaths lies with them.

Again, you’re calling people scum. You called the Jews scum and you’re using the word again here. Countries democratically voted to join NATO. Russia can’t dictate terms to the Baltic states anymore, and they joined NATO freely because the brief chaos that reigned in Russia after the happy fall of communism was thrown out with the arrival of Putin. You can use the word Scum now and I won’t argue. He didn’t however attack these countries when they joined NATO. He didn’t attack Finland when it joined NATO.

He didn’t state that when he attacked Ukraine that it was because of NATO. And he didn’t attack NATO at all. He attacked Ukraine, to protect Russians living there, according to his strange logic. If Russians lived in nearby countries, they can choose to go home to Russia but why would they do that, when they’re better off out of Russia?

None of this matters to Putin: he’d find any excuse to have started that war. The war was inevitable because Putin is a tyrant, and tyrants start wars. Tyrants grab land. Tyrants make themselves rich, kill their domestic enemies, don’t hold free elections. Don’t idealise this guy, he’s not a good guy. They know that in countries beside Russia, they know his type..
Israel are 100% wrong here. Netanyahu and his regime are scum and any Jews who support the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent women and children are scum. There are many in Israel against what's happening and they're not scum. This went well beyond self defense in a few days. Israel have always been the aggressor here. Over 75 years of oppression and occupation might have something to do with it. You must have crawled out from under the wrong rock 'cos the majority out there are fully behind Palestine. Look no further than the country you live in. If you think they support Israel you're beyond delusional. That doesn't make them supporters of Hamas. The US and UK killed over 1 million innocent Iraqis based on a lie. They are scum. I'm talking the Bush and Blaire regimes btw, not the average people in both countries. Both should have got the death penalty or life imprisonment but they both roam free and in Blaire's case he's actually high up in the WEF instead of behind bars. You couldn't make it up. Doing his level best to control our lives with digital IDs and censorship now.

Go watch this and educate yourself instead of typing tripe and getting silly likes by people equally ignorant of the reasons behind this conflict and stop blaming Putin. The Ukrainian neo nazis were killing ethnic Russians in the Donbas and Donetsk regions since 2014 long before before Feb 2022.
 

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Israel are 100% wrong here. Netanyahu and his regime are scum and any Jews who support the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent women and children are scum. There are many in Israel against what's happening and they're not scum. This went well beyond self defense in a few days. Israel have always been the aggressor here. Over 75 years of oppression and occupation might have something to do with it. You must have crawled out from under the wrong rock 'cos the majority out there are fully behind Palestine. Look no further than the country you live in. If you think they support Israel you're beyond delusional. That doesn't make them supporters of Hamas. The US and UK killed over 1 million innocent Iraqis based on a lie. They are scum. I'm talking the Bush and Blaire regimes btw, not the average people in both countries. Both should have got the death penalty or life imprisonment but they both roam free and in Blaire's case he's actually high up in the WEF instead of behind bars. You couldn't make it up. Doing his level best to control our lives with digital IDs and censorship now.

Yes, I’m embarrassed by the country I live in. A rule of thumb for you to follow: when the modern pampered mob goes screaming hysterical down the street in favour of anything, they’re bound to be default setting wrong. Look at the gender lunatics. Look at BLM. Anyone who wears masks to hide their identity while attacking Jews, well, we know who they are. You should not base your argument on what you suspect the majority think.

The loud ones aren’t the majority. They’re the inarticulate idiots. And in this, like in everything else, they’re wrong. Like the trans thingy, people will see that they’re wrong in supporting genocidal psychopaths when they support Hamas. And when they screech in American universities and in the Irish Parliament for “Palestinian” people, they’re simply useful idiots.

And Jew haters. Used to be they could hide it by claiming that they were only criticising Israeli policies. That lie has been been blown wide open now.

Don’t be a useful idiot, brother. They’re barely distinguishable from useless idiots.
Go watch this and educate yourself instead of typing tripe and getting silly likes by people equally ignorant of the reasons behind this conflict and stop blaming Putin. The Ukrainian neo nazis were killing ethnic Russian in the Donbas and Donetsk regions since 2014 long before before Feb 2022.
In a conflict like this, we have to take sides first against the worst player - and in this case it’s Putin. The Russians living in Ukraine could always go home to Russia - but again, why would they do that? Give me a good reason.

Putin is a tyrant. He assassinates any opposition he faces in Russia, so you can barely believe him when he gives a lame excuse for trying to extend his countries borders. He’s threatened the Baltic states too. This is what tyrants do. They know his type well, in these countries. That’s why they joined NATO.

Now by the way, what has any of this got to do with US politics? About as much as Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has to do with Nazis…
 
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Yes, I’m embarrassed by the country I live in. A rule of thumb for you to follow: when the modern pampered mob goes screaming hysterical down the street in favour of anything, they’re bound to be default setting wrong. Look at the gender lunatics. Look at BLM. Anyone who wears masks to hide their identity while attacking Jews, well, we know who they are. You should not base your argument on what you suspect the majority think.

The loud ones aren’t the majority. They’re the inarticulate idiots. And in this, like in everything else, they’re wrong. Like the trans thingy, people will see that they’re wrong in supporting genocidal psychopaths when they support Hamas. And when they screech in American universities and in the Irish Parliament for “Palestinian” people, they’re simply useful idiots.

And Jew haters. Used to be they could hide it by claiming that they were only criticising Israeli policies. That lie has been been blown wide open now.

Don’t be a useful idiot, brother. They’re barely distinguishable from useless idiots.

In a conflict like this, we have to take sides first against the worst player - and in this case it’s Putin. The Russians living in Ukraine could always go home to Russia - but again, why would they do that? Give me a good reason.

Putin is a tyrant. He assassinates any opposition he faces in Russia, so you can barely believe him when he gives a lame excuse for trying to extend his countries borders. He’s threatened the Baltic states too. This is what tyrants do. They know his type well, in these countries. That’s why they joined NATO.

Now by the way, what has any of this got to do with US politics? About as much as Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has to do with Nazis…
The majority are often wrong, yes. Covid was the obvious one with sheep who trusted every lie they were told and look dumb asf now. The trans/gender/woke stuff is utter bs too. In full agreement. Can't agree with innocent women and children being blown to bits by Israel though, sorry. Uncle Sam has huge ties to Israel so they'll always side with them no matter how obvious it is they're on the wrong side of history. I suggest you watch the documentary in my previous post to educate yourself on the root cause of the Ukraine conflict. Americans lock up innocent people (the list is huge), they tried to kill the current main opposition to the "democrats" twice in mere weeks so spare me the nonsense that they're any better. The common denominator with most major world conflicts is the US...

What's this got to do with US politics? You need to cut down on the hard stuff, man. This is delusional at this point. One of the main things the US need to try and do is stop the conflicts THEY are supplying weapons for. It's one of the main election talking points. It has everything to do with US politics and our very survival as a species is gonna be determined either by the orange man or the alcoholic, marijuana smoking, cackling Indian laughingstock. There are tons of neo nazi groups in Ukraine btw..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Neo-Nazism_in_Ukraine
 
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The majority are often wrong, yes. Covid was the obvious one with sheep who trusted every lie they were told and look dumb asf now. The trans/gender/woke stuff is utter bs too. In full agreement. Can't agree with innocent women and children being blown to bits by Israel though, sorry.

Do you agree with Hamas being blown to bits? The “innocent woman and children” who die there, that’s on Hamas. Jews are not going to put up with psychotic neighbours trying to destroy them. Not any more they won’t.
Uncle Sam has huge ties to Israel so they'll always side with them no matter how obvious it is they're on the wrong side of history. I suggest you watch the documentary in my previous post to educate yourself on the root cause of the Ukraine conflict. Americans lock up innocent people (the list is huge), they tried to kill the current main opposition to the "democrats" twice in mere weeks so spare me the nonsense that they're any better. The common denominator with most major world conflicts is the US...
I don’t doubt that America has often gotten things wrong and inflamed trouble in the ME, regardless of their intentions. None of this has anything to do with the fact that the only sane and free place in that hell-hole of deranged theocracies, misogynists, anti-semites, and psychopaths, is under constant threat due to the fact that their Islamist neighbours hate them. If you’re against the Jews defending themselves, then you’re part of the problem. You’re as much a sheep as the people you consider to be blindly following bad ideas, like sheep. Maybe more so, because maybe they’re not like sheep.

I agree with you about Kamala, by the way. You’re on sounder ground there. But Trump? Nah. They’re all lousy options. There’s none of them interested in healing divisions. That’s the number one issue..
 
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Do you agree with Hamas being blown to bits? The “innocent woman and children” who die there, that’s on Hamas. Jews are not going to put up with psychotic neighbours trying to destroy them. Not any more they won’t.

I don’t doubt that America has often gotten things wrong and inflamed trouble in the ME, regardless of their intentions. None of this has anything to do with the fact that the only sane and free place in that hell-hole of deranged theocracies, misogynists, anti-semites, and psychopaths, is under constant threat due to the fact that their Islamist neighbours hate them. If you’re against the Jews defending themselves, then you’re part of the problem. You’re as much a sheep as the people you consider to be blindly following bad ideas, like sheep. Maybe more so, because maybe they’re not like sheep.

I agree with you about Kamala, by the way. You’re on sounder ground there. But Trump? Nah. They’re all lousy options. There’s none of them interested in healing divisions. That’s the number one issue..

I'm no fan of Kamala's, but the alternative is unthinkable! I barely got thru Trump's 1st term as he was running the gov't like it was his plaything! The criminality of his actions was on display everyday! He didn't try to hide it! Anyone supporting this dispicable human being should be excommunicated from society, but we're talking 10's of Millions of people! IDK how they redeem themselves! They've already tried w/ many hardcore conservatives biting their tongues & maybe chopping off another limb as they timidly endorse the enemy in a Dem called Harris! I just don't think we'll survive as a democracy if Trump is allowed anywhere near the Oval Office! To this day, I'm still waiting for these hardcore supporters to let me know what he has to do to say "ENOUGH?" He's done everything but drink the blood of an infant on camera! Everything else has been acceptable so far; even to scum sucking Evangelist hypocrites! :face-with-symbols-on-mouth::anxious-face-with-sweat::fearful-face::angry-face::astonished-face:
 
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