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Look at the actual facts. Far more white people than black people have died from police shootings in recent years (and the numbers for both races are pretty low given the population size of the USA). You just hardly hear about those incidents:

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LOL.....so now you don’t care about “social distancing” all of a sudden? What happened to your handwringing over that?
OK, but look at the proportion of white people to black and hispanic people in this country, and see the overrepresentation by people of color in that list of statistics, by percentage of the population. I'm sure you can do the math. As to social distancing, you missed the point by a mile+ about institutional racial abuse and violence.

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OK, but look at the proportion of white people to black and hispanic people in this country, and see the overrepresentation by people of color in that list of statistics, by percentage of the population.

Your table is from 2010. Whites are now closer to 65% of the population. But either way, the proportions aren't as far off from where you think they ideally should be. If we just go by the numbers for whites, blacks, and Hispanics combined in 2017, there were 859 total deaths by police shooting: 457 for whites (53%), 223 for blacks (26%), and 179 for Hispanics (21%).

In absolute terms, 457 is a very large number for possible social media fodder, yet we hear nothing about those. Furthermore, if you want to talk about proportionality, the rate of black crime in heavily black urban areas such as Baltimore is simply much higher than in most other places in the country. If Baltimore was is its own country, it would have the 4th highest murder rate in the world.

Red areas that vote for Trump and have high gun ownership have basically zero murders and zero gun violence. Why should you expect those places to generate violent encounters with police at the same rate as high-murder-rate areas such as St. Louis and Baltimore?

As to social distancing, you missed the point by a mile+ about institutional racial abuse and violence.

No, I understood your point perfectly well. You believe that blacks are victims of incessant and constant evil at the hands of white society (white Republicans specifically, because white Democrats always get off scot-free), so they can be given a pass for acting out and doing things you would never tolerate from Republicans. In other words, you don't view blacks as equals. You view them as morally angelic and above criticism (unless they defect from the Democratic Party like Ben Carson or Vernon Jones). In your perception, they are like a species of animal that might go extinct in an Amazon forest if we don't go the extra mile to coddle them.

So if white Republicans gather for a protest in East Lansing, Michigan against the stupid shutdowns, they are endangering human life by not social distancing. But if black and white left-wing rioters burn an Autozone and a Wendy's to the ground in Minneapolis and loot a Target store during this supposedly vital lockdown, that's perfectly fine with you. Why? Because they are on the left politically. So they can abide by a different set of rules.

The irony is that white leftists like yourself are, in terms of policy, the #1 enemies of black society. Everything you advocate is destructive for their communities.
 

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Britbox, to be honest, you and Trump are only scratching the surface of the reality of how much cheating the Democrats have already engaged in and how much they intend to. Every voting initiative they advocate is intended to be a power grab. I assure they would be all for voter ID if they thought the "suppressed" voters were going to go Republican.

That said.....you may be interested in this recent story out of Philadelphia. The amount of voter fraud that occurs in cities such as Philadelphia, Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, and St. Louis on behalf of the Democratic Party is probably beyond anyone's wildest dreams.

South Philly judge of elections admits he took bribes to stuff the ballot box for Democratic candidates

by Mensah M. Dean and Julie Shaw, Updated: May 21, 2020

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These date back to 2000. 1,071 fraudulent votes in 20 years is not enough to swing even a medium-level local election, in big states in one year, much any single one less across 20. Interesting quote from you:
"I assure they would be all for voter ID if they thought the "suppressed" voters were going to go Republican." Hmmm. So you and yours are for enfranchisement if the vote will go Republican, but are OK with suppression if you're not guaranteed it will go your way? #votersuppression
 

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Your table is from 2010. Whites are now closer to 65% of the population. But either way, the proportions aren't as far off from where you think they ideally should be. If we just go by the numbers for whites, blacks, and Hispanics combined in 2017, there were 859 total deaths by police shooting: 457 for whites (53%), 223 for blacks (26%), and 179 for Hispanics (21%).

In absolute terms, 457 is a very large number for possible social media fodder, yet we hear nothing about those. Furthermore, if you want to talk about proportionality, the rate of black crime in heavily black urban areas such as Baltimore is simply much higher than in most other places in the country. If Baltimore was is its own country, it would have the 4th highest murder rate in the world.

Red areas that vote for Trump and have high gun ownership have basically zero murders and zero gun violence. Why should you expect those places to generate violent encounters with police at the same rate as high-murder-rate areas such as St. Louis and Baltimore?

No, I understood your point perfectly well. You believe that blacks are victims of incessant and constant evil at the hands of white society (white Republicans specifically, because white Democrats always get off scot-free), so they can be given a pass for acting out and doing things you would never tolerate from Republicans. In other words, you don't view blacks as equals. You view them as morally angelic and above criticism (unless they defect from the Democratic Party like Ben Carson or Vernon Jones). In your perception, they are like a species of animal that might go extinct in an Amazon forest if we don't go the extra mile to coddle them.

So if white Republicans gather for a protest in East Lansing, Michigan against the stupid shutdowns, they are endangering human life by not social distancing. But if black and white left-wing rioters burn an Autozone and a Wendy's to the ground in Minneapolis and loot a Target store during this supposedly vital lockdown, that's perfectly fine with you. Why? Because they are on the left politically. So they can abide by a different set of rules.

The irony is that white leftists like yourself are, in terms of policy, the #1 enemies of black society. Everything you advocate is destructive for their communities.
You are so dense. If the point of your protest is against the lockdown, and you don't socially distance, that's a political statement. If the point of your protest is outrage at the cops, you've got other issues. See the point, difference, Zippy?

Even if the proportion of whites v. minorities has changed a bit since 2010. Doesn't really change the point though, does it? The fact that black and brown people are more hard done by at the hands of the cops?

Speaking of Minnesota, a cop did get convicted of killing a civilian recently. Only the cop was black, the victim a white woman, even though the circumstances were murky:

 

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"I assure they would be all for voter ID if they thought the "suppressed" voters were going to go Republican." Hmmm. So you and yours are for enfranchisement if the vote will go Republican, but are OK with suppression if you're not guaranteed it will go your way? #votersuppression

No, in an ideal sense, I am for people being able to make their own choice after documenting their identity at a voting location. That is a fair way of handling things. But of course that's not what the Democrats want. Every voting initiative they advocate is meant to help them win elections. Nothing more, nothing less.

Also, I have to say it is quite rich for the Democrats to be talking about "voter suppression" when artificial voter inflation of massive proportions in the decades since the Voting Rights Act has put multiple large states including New York, Illinois, and New York entirely out of reach of Republican presidential candidates. When you look at what the Voting Rights Act amounted to, it was basically just a power grab by white leftists in their civil war with white rightists.

Due to the 92%-Democrat black voting bloc that goes Democrat on the basis of anti-white race hate, the Democratic Party is guaranteed the states of New York, Illinois, and California in every presidential election. As it stands, Republicans never have even a remote chance of winning those states. And the black vote is to a large extent an artificial creation of the federal government and civil rights agitators who motivate people to vote who otherwise wouldn't and make them believe that it is their civic duty to vote for the Democratic Party.

It is, to put it mildly, rich for a white Democrat to condemn voter suppression when a huge chunk of their voter support was artificially generated through government policy. This was done by manufacturing the race-hustling civil rights industry and by promoting mass-scale illegal immigration. It's all just a power grab.

Mail-in voting is the latest chapter of this power grab scheme.
 
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You are so dense. If the point of your protest is against the lockdown, and you don't socially distance, that's a political statement. If the point of your protest is outrage at the cops, you've got other issues. See the point, difference, Zippy?

Oh okay. So I'm sure that if there was a right-wing protest right now against something other than the lockdowns, you would be completely mute about the fact that they weren't socially distancing. Sure.

Everything in recent weeks has been about the need to socially distance - an entirely stupid concept - but one that you hitched yourself to like a pious sheep. And now when you see black and white leftist rioters in Minneapolis burning stores to the ground in Minneapolis, you suddenly don't care about the need for social distancing. It's only secondary.

Perhaps one of the benefits to this mayhem in Minneapolis is that it will undermine the utterly moronic veneration for lockdowns for good.

Even if the proportion of whites v. minorities has changed a bit since 2010. Doesn't really change the point though, does it? The fact that black and brown people are more hard done by at the hands of the cops?

The numbers for Hispanics killed by cops almost exactly mirror their overall proportion of the population. In the case of rural areas that support Trump and have high gun ownership, you refuse to acknowledge that they have basically zero gun violence or murders and are therefore unlikely to get into confrontations with police. In the case of blacks and police, you simply will not allow yourself to acknowledge the reality that black urban populations have a much higher rate of violent crime than other demographics and are therefore more likely to get into violent encounters with police.

Despite all that, the equal proportionality that you crave so deeply isn't as far off as you are implying. 53% of those shot and killed by cops are white, while about 65% of the general population is white. That number matches up very well when you consider how non-violent and civilized the Trump-supporting, gun-owning counties in America are.
 

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Well this is funny.....a Democratic opinion contributor to USA Today is starting to dissent from the lockdowns. Will Moxie follow suit and experience rationality for a day?

We can only hope that somehow this will take place.....



Coronavirus: I was in the stay-home-until-it's-safe camp. But I just can't take it anymore.
I may have to turn in my progressive card, but I just can't stomach an extended coronavirus lockdown any longer. And neither can our country.

Michael J. Stern
Opinion columnist

May 26, 2020

 

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No, in an ideal sense, I am for people being able to make their own choice after documenting their identity at a voting location. That is a fair way of handling things. But of course that's not what the Democrats want. Every voting initiative they advocate is meant to help them win elections. Nothing more, nothing less.

Also, I have to say it is quite rich for the Democrats to be talking about "voter suppression" when artificial voter inflation of massive proportions in the decades since the Voting Rights Act has put multiple large states including New York, Illinois, and New York entirely out of reach of Republican presidential candidates. When you look at what the Voting Rights Act amounted to, it was basically just a power grab by white leftists in their civil war with white rightists.

Due to the 92%-Democrat black voting bloc that goes Democrat on the basis of anti-white race hate, the Democratic Party is guaranteed the states of New York, Illinois, and California in every presidential election. As it stands, Republicans never have even a remote chance of winning those states. And the black vote is to a large extent an artificial creation of the federal government and civil rights agitators who motivate people to vote who otherwise wouldn't and make them believe that it is their civic duty to vote for the Democratic Party.

It is, to put it mildly, rich for a white Democrat to condemn voter suppression when a huge chunk of their voter support was artificially generated through government policy. This was done by manufacturing the race-hustling civil rights industry and by promoting mass-scale illegal immigration. It's all just a power grab.

Mail-in voting is the latest chapter of this power grab sceme.
This is so sad. You started great for one (half) sentence: "No, in an ideal sense, I am for people being able to make their own choice." Then it kind of fell apart after that.

A.) That Democratic initiatives are meant to win them elections. OK, let's see: by encouraging people to sign up to vote? Motor-voter? Even sending out absentee ballot applications to registered voters during the pandemic? Is this sinister, or does it just encourage enfranchisement? Is this a bad thing, encouraging people to vote? No one is requiring that they vote Democrat. It's the Republicans who fear a wider enfranchisement and seek to suppress the vote.

B) "When you look at what the Voting Rights Act amounted to, it was basically just a power grab by white leftists in their civil war with white rightists." Wow, that's a stretch. And you just made the enfranchisement of black people, after decades of disenfranchisement, about white people all over again. And you, the black power rapper of these forums. SMH.

C.) "And the black vote is to a large extent an artificial creation of the federal government and civil rights agitators who motivate people to vote who otherwise wouldn't and make them believe that it is their civic duty to vote for the Democratic Party." This is so paternalistic that I don't even know what to say. How is anyone's vote an "artificial creation?" How could the enfranchisement of people ever be a bad thing, when their vote was so long suppressed?

D.) "Also, I have to say it is quite rich for the Democrats to be talking about "voter suppression" when artificial voter inflation of massive proportions in the decades since the Voting Rights Act has put multiple large states including New York, Illinois, and New York entirely out of reach of Republican presidential candidates." New York so nice, we named it twice. :) It's not like we've never voted in Republican governors, and perhaps you even meant California, which also has had them. Even Republican mayors in NYC. You could do without whining about voter suppression in these states and ask yourself why the Republicans haven't put forth candidates that appeal to them. That`s why it comes down to a few battleground states and the electoral college (and the Russians, perhaps,) because the Republicans refuse to come up with a platform that play to the majority interests in the US.
 

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Well this is funny.....a Democratic opinion contributor to USA Today is starting to dissent from the lockdowns. Will Moxie follow suit and experience rationality for a day?

We can only hope that somehow this will take place.....



Coronavirus: I was in the stay-home-until-it's-safe camp. But I just can't take it anymore.
I may have to turn in my progressive card, but I just can't stomach an extended coronavirus lockdown any longer. And neither can our country.

Michael J. Stern
Opinion columnist

May 26, 2020

You didn't read the piece I posted from the Economist, I guess.
 

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A.) That Democratic initiatives are meant to win them elections. OK, let's see: by encouraging people to sign up to vote? Motor-voter? Even sending out absentee ballot applications to registered voters during the pandemic? Is this sinister, or does it just encourage enfranchisement?

It's sinister. It's all a power grab. The virtue-signaling rhetoric about the "right to vote" is simply a front.

Is this a bad thing, encouraging people to vote?

In some cases, yes. Not everyone is naturally politically inclined. What the Democratic Party has done for decades is exactly what Joe Biden referred to last week: make black voting for the Democratic Party a matter of racial tribalism and racial unity.

Within the black community, there is hardly any debate over policies. The act of voting is overwhelmingly a form of anti-white catharsis every election cycle. That is why the black vote is so lopsided. It is simply a government-engineered race-hate vote to give the Democratic Party more power and more control.

No one is requiring that they vote Democrat.

Not officially. But they use civil rights agitators and government officials to tell black people that it is their black duty to vote Democrat or else they are sell-outs to their race. The black vote for the Democratic Party is essentially and almost entirely about racial tribalism.

It's the Republicans who fear a wider enfranchisement and seek to suppress the vote.

Absolute bullshit. Republicans have supported every extension of the Voting Rights Act, despite the fact that it costs them elections continuously. All they are asking for now is that voting have the same standards for identification as opening a bank account. That is not an unreasonable standard at all.

B) "When you look at what the Voting Rights Act amounted to, it was basically just a power grab by white leftists in their civil war with white rightists." Wow, that's a stretch. And you just made the enfranchisement of black people, after decades of disenfranchisement, about white people all over again.

Because white leftists like yourself have made black voting all about yourselves and not about black well-being. White leftists use black votes to advance what they really care about - the LGBT agenda. White leftists don't care about the actual well-being of minorities. They care about looking fashionable and feeling comfortable within themselves. LGBT is far more important to white leftists than black people living in safe neighborhoods or getting better jobs.

C.) "And the black vote is to a large extent an artificial creation of the federal government and civil rights agitators who motivate people to vote who otherwise wouldn't and make them believe that it is their civic duty to vote for the Democratic Party." This is so paternalistic that I don't even know what to say.

Paternalistic? Like Joe Biden telling blacks they aren't black if they don't vote Democrat?

I found the uproar over Biden's comments quite comical because all he did was say exactly what white Democrats have thought for years and what the vast majority of blacks have believed for years.

How is anyone's vote an "artificial creation?"

Obviously you don't know that Eisenhower got 37% of the black vote before the Civil Rights Act and the civil rights machine went into full force to make the black vote a mass scale race-unity expression. You also obviously don't know about how the Voting Rights Act was implemented and what kind of Democratic Party shenanigans go on in black areas. The black vote is not the result of people thinking about policies and voting accordingly. It is a racial tribalist vote ginned up by the federal government and the Democratic Party to go out and vote on the basis of racial identity and racial resentment. That is why it goes 92% Democrat in every election.

How could the enfranchisement of people ever be a bad thing, when their vote was so long suppressed?

Well you obviously would prefer if right-wing demographics did not have the right to vote, but putting that aside, I don't think it is a good idea for everyone and anyone to vote just to vote. I think people should vote if they are politically interested and engaged enough to be informed about issues. I definitely don't think they should be encouraged to vote simply on the basis of racial antagonism and tribal instincts, which is exactly what the Voting Rights Act encouraged with blacks. Prior to the Voting Rights Act, there was fairly extensive black voting, but it was more balanced and far less politicized. As I just mentioned, 37% of blacks voted for Eisenhower. What the Voting Rights Act did was create a massive anti-white race-hate vote through government agitation to give white leftists more power to advance the agendas that they really cared about - particularly LGBT.

You could do without whining about voter suppression in these states and ask yourself why the Republicans haven't put forth candidates that appeal to them.

There are many reasons for that but the main one is that the forces of education, media, and Democratic Party operatives and civil rights activists have convinced black people that they are selling out their race if they ever stray from the Democratic Party. Republicans have tried in dozens of ways to "reach out" but black voters have spurned them at every turn. It does not matter that Republicans overwhelmingly and by a higher percentage than Democrats voted for both the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Blacks have been convinced that they aren't black if they don't vote Democrat.

Also, another factor is that despite their pro-capitalist rhetoric in music, blacks generally support big-government programs in the realms of politics. They don't find much appeal in free-market economics as an abstract political theory. But, that said, the main reason they vote Democrat is that they have been trained to believe that voting Democrat is a matter of racial unity and survival. They vote almost entirely on the basis of anti-white racial resentment that has been drummed in their heads by the civil rights industry, the media, and the educational system.

That`s why it comes down to a few battleground states and the electoral college (and the Russians, perhaps,)

You mean the Ukrainians. They were the ones who interfered in 2016 (trying to help the Democrats), not the Russians.
 
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I would have thought that, but this thing died down. He could have quietly moved on to the next thing. He brought it back. It really makes you wonder. I think this is beyond ego...
Trump or some of off springs probably have a lot of stock in that drug
 

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HCQ is rough on the heart, by all medical accounting, and Trump is old and in dodgy health. The use of it as a prophylactic seems to be unproven and not indicated, in his case. Frankly, no one believes that he is. He just likes to say it.
I would pay to see him take HCQ with a diet coke and triple bacon cheeseburger from Fatburger
 

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In light of the protests all over the United States, I would like to say a few quick things:

1) The officer in the George Floyd case was immediately fired (as were the three other officers at the scene). Trump ordered the Department of Justice to investigate the case the next day after it happened. And today the officer was arrested and charged with murder.

2) The facilities of over 170 businesses in St. Paul, Minnesota have been destroyed. A Wendy's and Autozone were burned to the ground, as was the police headquarters of Minneapolis. A Target and numerous other stores were looted.

3) For all of the reasons in #1, the actions in #2 were pointless.

And that brings me to my conclusion: white left-wing people in North America and Western Europe are the most dangerous demographic on the planet. They are far more dangerous than ISIS could have dreamed of being.
 

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I would pay to see him take HCQ with a diet coke and triple bacon cheeseburger from Fatburger


I hope you are aware that the president of El Salvador announced this week that he is taking HCQ as a prophylactic:

El Salvador president takes hydroxychloroquine to fight COVID-19, cites Trump’s use
BY STAFF REUTERS
Posted May 27, 2020 12:09 am

 

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I hope you are aware that the president of El Salvador announced this week that he is taking HCQ as a prophylactic:

El Salvador president takes hydroxychloroquine to fight COVID-19, cites Trump’s use
BY STAFF REUTERS
Posted May 27, 2020 12:09 am

Maybe he can have it with a big Mac and coke too
 

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It's sinister. It's all a power grab. The virtue-signaling rhetoric about the "right to vote" is simply a front.

A front for what? Seriously, how do you justify encouraging enfranchisement as "sinister?" You call the "right to vote" as "virtue-signalling." Isn't voting an actual virtue, in terms of citizenship and civic duty? I'd say the ones who discourage it are the moral offenders.
In some cases, yes. Not everyone is naturally politically inclined. What the Democratic Party has done for decades is exactly what Joe Biden referred to last week: make black voting for the Democratic Party a matter of racial tribalism and racial unity.

In some case discouraging people from voting is a good thing? It doesn't matter if they're not "politically inclined." Everyone has the right to an opinion, and the more they exercise it, the more inclined they are to be informed. That's self-determination. Not sure where you're going with the paternalistic comment about the black vote. No matter what Biden said, you just said what you did. Suppression of the AA vote in this country is historical and contemporary. Every citizen has a right to be encouraged to vote. I'm not sure why that bothers you.
Within the black community, there is hardly any debate over policies. The act of voting is overwhelmingly a form of anti-white catharsis every election cycle. That is why the black vote is so lopsided. It is simply a government-engineered race-hate vote to give the Democratic Party more power and more control.
Just OMG. Seriously. You just said that Black people have no idea what they're doing when they vote, they just express race-hate and are hugely manipulated in their vote. I thought you were the guy that had the finger on the pulse of AA culture, (in your own opinion.) This is a completely racist statement. There is no other way to characterize it.
Not officially. But they use civil rights agitators and government officials to tell black people that it is their black duty to vote Democrat or else they are sell-outs to their race. The black vote for the Democratic Party is essentially and almost entirely about racial tribalism.

Again...you're saying that black people have essentially no control over how they vote. No individual processing of issues, as they apply to them. Just some plantation mentality about the Democrats.
Absolute bullshit. Republicans have supported every extension of the Voting Rights Act, despite the fact that it costs them elections continuously. All they are asking for now is that voting have the same standards for identification as opening a bank account. That is not an unreasonable standard at all.

Untrue. The last vote on the voting rights act only 1 Republican crossed party lines and voted for it.


The same standard as opening a bank account? That's actually a pretty high standard. It is the right of every citizen of voting age to vote. You don't need an ID card or a minimum bank balance or $1000 or an education to vote. You don't even need a social security number. That's the law. Every impediment you put up: ID, SSN, and what used to be literacy tests disenfranchises the poor and the minority. You say you and your ilk are protecting fraud. I call bullshit. You are encouraging the disenfranchisement of people who have the right to vote.
Because white leftists like yourself have made black voting all about yourselves and not about black well-being. White leftists use black votes to advance what they really care about - the LGBT agenda. White leftists don't care about the actual well-being of minorities. They care about looking fashionable and feeling comfortable within themselves. LGBT is far more important to white leftists than black people living in safe neighborhoods or getting better jobs.

Same old. See above. Though rather funny that now it's all about the LGBT agenda. Tell me how the right-wing has otherwise been about the well-being of minorities? What has the Republican ticket got to offer black and brown people? I've never pretended that racism isn't endemic in this country, and I don't pretend that liberals are immune to it. Of the two options, though, what are the Republicans offering?
Obviously you don't know that Eisenhower got 37% of the black vote before the Civil Rights Act and the civil rights machine went into full force to make the black vote a mass scale race-unity expression. You also obviously don't know about how the Voting Rights Act was implemented and what kind of Democratic Party shenanigans go on in black areas. The black vote is not the result of people thinking about policies and voting accordingly. It is a racial tribalist vote ginned up by the federal government and the Democratic Party to go out and vote on the basis of racial identity and racial resentment. That is why it goes 92% Democrat in every election.

Same comment.
Well you obviously would prefer if right-wing demographics did not have the right to vote, but putting that aside, I don't think it is a good idea for everyone and anyone to vote just to vote. I think people should vote if they are politically interested and engaged enough to be informed about issues. I definitely don't think they should be encouraged to vote simply on the basis of racial antagonism and tribal instincts, which is exactly what the Voting Rights Act encouraged with blacks. Prior to the Voting Rights Act, there was fairly extensive black voting, but it was more balanced and far less politicized. As I just mentioned, 37% of blacks voted for Eisenhower. What the Voting Rights Act did was create a massive anti-white race-hate vote through government agitation to give white leftists more power to advance the agendas that they really cared about - particularly LGBT.

I do not prefer if right-wingers didn't vote. I think everyone should vote, you putz. If you want to limit it to those who have real interest in politics, then you limit it by education, and then you limit it by socio-economic and racial groups. See how that works?

There are many reasons for that but the main one is that the forces of education, media, and Democratic Party operatives and civil rights activists have convinced black people that they are selling out their race if they ever stray from the Democratic Party. Republicans have tried in dozens of ways to "reach out" but black voters have spurned them at every turn. It does not matter that Republicans overwhelmingly and by a higher percentage than Democrats voted for both the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Blacks have been convinced that they aren't black if they don't vote Democrat.

Also, another factor is that despite their pro-capitalist rhetoric in music, blacks generally support big-government programs in the realms of politics. They don't find much appeal in free-market economics as an abstract political theory. But, that said, the main reason they vote Democrat is that they have been trained to believe that voting Democrat is a matter of racial unity and survival. They vote almost entirely on the basis of anti-white racial resentment that has been drummed in their heads by the civil rights industry, the media, and the educational system.

Rinse, repeat. These are racist ideas. I hate to break it to you, because I know you think you're the blackest white man in Punxsutawney,.
You mean the Ukrainians. They were the ones who interfered in 2016 (trying to help the Democrats), not the Russians.
Nope, I mean the Russians. Check your facts. Not only did the Ukranians not have the wherewithall or organization to interfere with our elections, they basically had no reason to. This has been sold post-fact. Whereas the Russians, as has been proven, did meddle, to some extent. It's clear from this post that you are willing to believe only what you want to, and that facts are mere irritations to your world-view.

Why do I even bother?
 

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This would be an excellent opportunity for Cali to explain and express his admiration for the Trump's administration if he would just go to downtown LA..it would not be hard for him to get a forum to listen to and address his issues with the Obama Democrats
 
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