US Politics Thread

[Murat Baslamisli]

It's truly one of the dumbest things I've ever heard come out of a politicians mouth. I wouldn't call it racist, just... dumb. Reeaaallly dumb! It's going to be interesting to see if he can recover from this

All members of a certain racial background has to vote uniformly...no room for diversity of thought, no room for dissent, according to this moron. That sure is dumb but also racist.

 

[Federberg]

All members of a certain racial background has to vote uniformly...no room for diversity of thought, no room for dissent, according to this moron. That sure is dumb but also racist.

I'm pretty sure that Biden was talking about the comparison, because Trump is a racist. You can accuse Biden of racism because of semantics. But judge these guys based on their actions. On that basis it's hard to accuse Biden of racism. Easy to do so for Trump. Just yesterday he was praising Henry Ford a nazi sympathiser. If you're going to get your knickers in a twist about this, then you should do about that too. Anyway I agree that he was monumentally stupid. Charlemagne the God had every right to ask what he gets for voting for Biden. More of the same complacent Democratic policies doesn't seem like a good trade!

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

I'm pretty sure that Biden was talking about the comparison, because Trump is a racist. You can accuse Biden of racism because of semantics. But judge these guys based on their actions. On that basis it's hard to accuse Biden of racism. Easy to do so for Trump. Just yesterday he was praising Henry Ford a nazi sympathiser. If you're going to get your knickers in a twist about this, then you should do about that too. Anyway I agree that he was monumentally stupid. Charlemagne the God had every right to ask what he gets for voting for Biden. More of the same complacent Democratic policies doesn't seem like a good trade!

So that's what you got from yesterday's speech eh? You think , in the factory that Henry Ford built, Trump was praising him BECAUSE he was a nazi symptathiser, or maybe he was praising him because of , uhm, maybe, the brand that he built, his contributions to the American way of life? That's like saying Hitler had a dog, Trump also has a god, Trump is a nazi.
By the way, Ford WAS a huge antisemite and Trump has some knows racist comments. But he did not praise Ford for his racist believes, I am pretty sure of that. It was basically a "thank you for building this".

I can see why you may want to excuse Biden though...because he literally does not know what he is saying most of the time

 

[Federberg]

So that's what you got from yesterday's speech eh? You think , in the factory that Henry Ford built, Trump was praising him BECAUSE he was a nazi symptathiser, or maybe he was praising him because of , uhm, maybe, the brand that he built, his contributions to the American way of life? That's like saying Hitler had a dog, Trump also has a god, Trump is a nazi.
By the way, Ford WAS a huge antisemite and Trump has some knows racist comments. But he did not praise Ford for his racist believes, I am pretty sure of that. It was basically a "thank you for building this".

I can see why you may want to excuse Biden though...because he literally does not know what he is saying most of the time

Listen to exactly what Trump said and get back to me. If you don't understand signalling then fine, but it wasn't that subtle. And as you can see from my initial response I wasn't excusing Biden. It was dumb. But calling it racist is on the extreme side mate

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Listen to exactly what Trump said and get back to me. If you don't understand signalling then fine, but it wasn't that subtle. And as you can see from my initial response I wasn't excusing Biden. It was dumb. But calling it racist is on the extreme side mate

I listened to the speech multiple times. And I can see how people can filter it differently depending on their political leanings. But in that setting , in that context, do you really think Trump was praising Ford (and his family) BECAUSE he was such a good nazi and a racist or maybe it had something to do with what he built? I don't usually give Trump much benefit of the doubt. Here I do.

 

[Federberg]

I listened to the speech multiple times. And I can see how people can filter it differently depending on their political leanings. But in that setting , in that context, do you really think Trump was praising Ford (and his family) BECAUSE he was such a good nazi and a racist or maybe it had something to do with what he built? I don't usually give Trump much benefit of the doubt. Here I do.

It's really tiresome when people don't have the balls to be honest about where they stand. I'll say one thing for Cali he doesn't waste my time like this. I can respect that. You read what you want to read into it mate. Pretty clear cut to me when he's talking about Ford's "bloodlines" what he's getting at. If you want to pretend otherwise that's your call. As for Biden, make up your mind, either the guy is a gaffe machine and therefore made a mistake and wasn't being racist or not. Just don't pretend your political biases aren't in play..

 

[Moxie]

I listened to the speech multiple times. And I can see how people can filter it differently depending on their political leanings. But in that setting , in that context, do you really think Trump was praising Ford (and his family) BECAUSE he was such a good nazi and a racist or maybe it had something to do with what he built? I don't usually give Trump much benefit of the doubt. Here I do.

He said "good bloodlines, if you believe in that sort of thing." I don't see why the qualifier if he wasn't talking about something more theoretical than just praising the man's family. And in case anyone missed it, he said it like 3 times.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

It's really tiresome when people don't have the balls to be honest about where they stand. I'll say one thing for Cali he doesn't waste my time like this. I can respect that. You read what you want to read into it mate. Pretty clear cut to me when he's talking about Ford's "bloodlines" what he's getting at. If you want to pretend otherwise that's your call. As for Biden, make up your mind, either the guy is a gaffe machine and therefore made a mistake and wasn't being racist or not. Just don't pretend your political biases aren't in play..

I have no idea how you get off with this post above. And honestly don't give a fuck about what you respect or don't. You don't acknowledge your biases and filters but everyone else has to? You have serious growing up to do then mate. Mentioning someone's blood line is not racism. I am totally honest about where I stand. I do not like Trump one bit, I hate the leftists like Biden even more. I told it was a gaffe in jest but that went over your head pretty fast too.
Biden HAS made a racist comment there and he IS also a gaffe machine. If you don't see that, I cannot help you.

 

[britbox]

No, there has been speculation about this for weeks. It is entirely baseless when you actually look into what Trump's investment holdings are (as many people have).



Lol.....he is not getting push back from the "medical research community" - as if that's some monolithic religious body akin to the scholars in Saudi Arabia. He is getting pushback from the Democratic Party media, which does not want to see him proven right. The problem for them is that so many doctors have spoken well of hydroxychloroquine and endorsed it. Of course the left-wing media are covering up that reality and keeping their ignorant readers in the dark about it. The problem with the Democratic media (which Moxie blindly follows) is that they have a very parochial and America-centric understanding of the world as though everything is simply about what white Democrats think. For all their pretense of having affinity for other cultures and societies, they know precious little about them. The likes of Moxie could really use some exposure to what people in other countries and other places are saying (see the first story below).

I could cite dozens of stories, but I'll just keep it pithy and settle for two. Why are the New York Times and Washington Post keeping their adoring parochial American readers in the dark about this reality? Why are they hiding the truth?


Hydroxychloroquine rated 'most effective therapy' by doctors for coronavirus: Global survey

Drug known for treating malaria used by U.S. doctors mostly for high-risk COVID-19 patients

Thursday, April 2, 2020

An international poll of more than 6,000 doctors released Thursday found that the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine was the most highly rated treatment for the novel coronavirus.

The survey conducted by Sermo, a global health care polling company, of 6,227 physicians in 30 countries found that 37% of those treating COVID-19 patients rated hydroxychloroquine as the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options.

Hydroxychloroquine rated ‘most effective therapy’ by doctors for coronavirus: Global survey

An international poll of more than 6,000 doctors released Thursday found that the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine was the most highly rated treatment for the novel coronavirus.

www.washingtontimes.com

80 Patients and Staff Members Come Down with Coronavirus at Texas Nursing Home – 39 of 39 Saved by Hydroxychloroquine Treatment

80 Patients and Staff Members Come Down with Coronavirus at Texas Nursing Home - 39 of 39 Saved by Hydroxychloroquine Treatment

Never forget that Dr. Fauci and the liberal media continues to cast doubt on this widely successful treatment for coronavirus. A nursing home in Texas has a hopeful story for those suffering with coronavirus. The Resort at Texas nursing home had an outbreak of coronavirus that infected 56...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Trump's not a COVID-19 patient though is he? Why would he be taking anti-Malaria drugs for another disease that he hasn't even got?

 

[britbox]

You can accuse Biden of racism because of semantics. But judge these guys based on their actions. On that basis it's hard to accuse Biden of racism.

No, it's the equally sickening paternalistic leftist approach. "Listen, folks; we know what's best for you based on the colour of your skin. Vote for senile old whitey here. Trust us, we know what's better for you than yourself"... Yeah, that kind of approach. Patronising and superior.

Singling out an entire race of people and telling them how to vote? On the premise that they don't belong to that race if they don't agree?

Can you imagine Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton saying, "Hey white folks, if you don't vote for me, then you ain't white!" They'd be laughed out of town.

Biden is a ridiculous choice of candidate... and that's even when he knows what state he is in, or for which office he is running.

 

[Jelenafan]

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No, it's the equally sickening paternalistic leftist approach. "Listen, folks; we know what's best for you based on the colour of your skin. Vote for senile old whitey here. Trust us, we know what's better for you than yourself"... Yeah, that kind of approach. Patronising and superior.

Singling out an entire race of people and telling them how to vote? On the premise that they don't belong to that race if they don't agree?

Can you imagine Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton saying, "Hey white folks, if you don't vote for me, then you ain't white!" They'd be laughed out of town.

Biden is a ridiculous choice of candidate... and that's even when he knows what state he is in, or for which office he is running.

Can’t disagree with anything you’ve said, but it’s almost besides the point. The well documented excesses /vices of both the right and the left in American has left things so polarized it’s hard to get genuine political discourse at all.

On to the practical side, do these recent gaffes genuinely hurt either candidate? I would say no.

Both their bases are so dug in that one could speculate they are gafe-proof, in that nothing they say is going to doom their candidacy. Seriously, what could either candidate say that is suddenly going to crash their campaigns, and it’s getting late in the game to “define” the other candidate in some new light. In a weird way, things are so polarized and their personas are so carved that it makes easier for them to trudge on. For God’s sake, Biden was a Senator in the 70’s so the accusation of a career politician, OK, say something new.

Biden’s poor attempt at a joke and colloquialism (“you ain’t black) , as awkward and offensive as it is, was underlying to a lot of his base that “there is NO choice”. Of course, the apology and mea culpa followed (hopefully he has staff who are going to reel him every time) but it was condescending and paternalistic, even if in jest. Now if two Black Americans are having that conversation Biden’s quip is hilarious.

As to Trump, saying bloodline several times , not what a great industrialist visionary Henry Ford was ( I need to say two things about Ford: he was the first industrialist on a large scale who gave livable wages to his workers, and he employed Black employee in his factories on a scale no one else did) so of course he was appealing to a certain section of his base. That base that knows that Ford as late as 1940 was blaming Jewish Bankers for WW11 , that same Ford who distributed anti-semitic propaganda on a massive scale, as well as being an early hero of Adolph Hitler expressly because of his anti-semitic views, and thus the only American in Mein Kamp referred to in glowing terms. Bloodlines indeed. Again, it doesn’t matter, he has plausible deniability and the rest of the base simply shrugs saying “Trump is being Trump”.

What Biden and Trump said is so them. It certainly didn’t illuminate either in any new light. Foot in mouth disease is endemic to both. Trump doesn't care to appeal beyond his base and was banking on the economy to keep him afloat, and winning against all odds in 2016 has made some think he's this political wizard which quite frankly he's not. Biden is politically savvy but , say, comparing him to similar age Sanders or Trump, to me he just seems tired and drained of energy. Again I'm talking about perceptions.

So there you have it, Trump and Biden, who have no genuine movement behind them. The lack of full on campaigning at this late date makes pivoting that much more challenging. It also means both parties have to find some new leader regardless who wins or loses. Trumpism isn’t as Teflon-like when it’s not Trump mouthing it, and Biden is a transparent single term place holder even if he wins.

I know I’m a broken record, it comes down to about 3-5 states, and as long as that’s the case, both Candidates have a genuine shot at winning. Ridiculous candidates or not, gafes or not.

 

[britbox]

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Can’t disagree with anything you’ve said, but it’s almost besides the point. The well documented excesses /vices of both the right and the left in American has left things so polarized it’s hard to get genuine political discourse at all.

On to the practical side, do these recent gaffes genuinely hurt either candidate? I would say no.

Both their bases are so dug in that one could speculate they are gafe-proof, in that nothing they say is going to doom their candidacy. Seriously, what could either candidate say that is suddenly going to crash their campaigns, and it’s getting late in the game to “define” the other candidate in some new light. In a weird way, things are so polarized and their personas are so carved that it makes easier for them to trudge on. For God’s sake, Biden was a Senator in the 70’s so the accusation of a career politician, OK, say something new.

Biden’s poor attempt at a joke and colloquialism (“you ain’t black) , as awkward and offensive as it is, was underlying to a lot of his base that “there is NO choice”. Of course, the apology and mea culpa followed (hopefully he has staff who are going to reel him every time) but it was condescending and paternalistic, even if in jest. Now if two Black Americans are having that conversation Biden’s quip is hilarious.

As to Trump, saying bloodline several times , not what a great industrialist visionary Henry Ford was ( I need to say two things about Ford: he was the first industrialist on a large scale who gave livable wages to his workers, and he employed Black employee in his factories on a scale no one else did) so of course he was appealing to a certain section of his base. That base that knows that Ford as late as 1940 was blaming Jewish Bankers for WW11 , that same Ford who distributed anti-semitic propaganda on a massive scale, as well as being an early hero of Adolph Hitler expressly because of his anti-semitic views, and thus the only American in Mein Kamp referred to in glowing terms. Bloodlines indeed. Again, it doesn’t matter, he has plausible deniability and the rest of the base simply shrugs saying “Trump is being Trump”.

What Biden and Trump said is so them. It certainly didn’t illuminate either in any new light. Foot in mouth disease is endemic to both. Trump doesn't care to appeal beyond his base and was banking on the economy to keep him afloat, and winning against all odds in 2016 has made some think he's this political wizard which quite frankly he's not. Biden is politically savvy but , say, comparing him to similar age Sanders or Trump, to me he just seems tired and drained of energy. Again I'm talking about perceptions.

So there you have it, Trump and Biden, who have no genuine movement behind them. The lack of full on campaigning at this late date makes pivoting that much more challenging. It also means both parties have to find some new leader regardless who wins or loses. Trumpism isn’t as Teflon-like when it’s not Trump mouthing it, and Biden is a transparent single term place holder even if he wins.

I know I’m a broken record, it comes down to about 3-5 states, and as long as that’s the case, both Candidates have a genuine shot at winning. Ridiculous candidates or not, gafes or not.

Yep, you're right. It'll come down to a handful of marginal states and a two-horse race. I guess I'm just rolling eyes on how ridiculously partisan it has become.

 

[Federberg]

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Can’t disagree with anything you’ve said, but it’s almost besides the point. The well documented excesses /vices of both the right and the left in American has left things so polarized it’s hard to get genuine political discourse at all.

On to the practical side, do these recent gaffes genuinely hurt either candidate? I would say no.

Both their bases are so dug in that one could speculate they are gafe-proof, in that nothing they say is going to doom their candidacy. Seriously, what could either candidate say that is suddenly going to crash their campaigns, and it’s getting late in the game to “define” the other candidate in some new light. In a weird way, things are so polarized and their personas are so carved that it makes easier for them to trudge on. For God’s sake, Biden was a Senator in the 70’s so the accusation of a career politician, OK, say something new.

Biden’s poor attempt at a joke and colloquialism (“you ain’t black) , as awkward and offensive as it is, was underlying to a lot of his base that “there is NO choice”. Of course, the apology and mea culpa followed (hopefully he has staff who are going to reel him every time) but it was condescending and paternalistic, even if in jest. Now if two Black Americans are having that conversation Biden’s quip is hilarious.

As to Trump, saying bloodline several times , not what a great industrialist visionary Henry Ford was ( I need to say two things about Ford: he was the first industrialist on a large scale who gave livable wages to his workers, and he employed Black employee in his factories on a scale no one else did) so of course he was appealing to a certain section of his base. That base that knows that Ford as late as 1940 was blaming Jewish Bankers for WW11 , that same Ford who distributed anti-semitic propaganda on a massive scale, as well as being an early hero of Adolph Hitler expressly because of his anti-semitic views, and thus the only American in Mein Kamp referred to in glowing terms. Bloodlines indeed. Again, it doesn’t matter, he has plausible deniability and the rest of the base simply shrugs saying “Trump is being Trump”.

What Biden and Trump said is so them. It certainly didn’t illuminate either in any new light. Foot in mouth disease is endemic to both. Trump doesn't care to appeal beyond his base and was banking on the economy to keep him afloat, and winning against all odds in 2016 has made some think he's this political wizard which quite frankly he's not. Biden is politically savvy but , say, comparing him to similar age Sanders or Trump, to me he just seems tired and drained of energy. Again I'm talking about perceptions.

So there you have it, Trump and Biden, who have no genuine movement behind them. The lack of full on campaigning at this late date makes pivoting that much more challenging. It also means both parties have to find some new leader regardless who wins or loses. Trumpism isn’t as Teflon-like when it’s not Trump mouthing it, and Biden is a transparent single term place holder even if he wins.

I know I’m a broken record, it comes down to about 3-5 states, and as long as that’s the case, both Candidates have a genuine shot at winning. Ridiculous candidates or not, gafes or not.

largely agree with you, although I would argue that Trump does have a movement, whether it's sustainable or not is what we are yet to see. I think in red districts it may well have legs, but as you say Trump seems to be unique on the national stage. I don't see Biden as having a movement at all. If anything you can actually credit Trump for the counter-reaction on the left.

I would also nitpick a little bit about the difference between Biden's ridiculous (and I agree paternalistic, totally disagree about racist) faux pas and Trump's bloodlines comment is the intentionality. For whatever reason Trump feels the need to coddle that side of his base. I honest to goodness don't think it's necessary at this stage. What harm would it do to avoid blatant racism/anti-semitism and reach out to other groups. The fact that at the 11th hour this man still can't resist division over inclusion is what I think will doom him. I've said since the 2018 mid-terms I can see 3 possible outcomes of almost equal probability. A close Trump re-election; a close Trump loss; or a complete blowout sweeping away Trump. I believe that this pandemic has tilted it towards the latter 2 outcomes. Take away 10% of probability from a Trump re-election and apportion that equally among the other two outcomes in my opinion. And I say this because of how Republicans are reacting. For example are you seeing what McConnell is doing? He's pushing judges thru like he'll never have the opportunity to do so again. That's not what winning looks like..

 

[Moxie]

One thing that has me worried is that the Bernie people will stay petulant and stay home. I was talking to a friend the other day that I only speak to infrequently. She says she's not really a Bernie hardliner, but told me what she's hearing. A lot of folks are hopping mad at the Democratic machine, and with good reason. I concur. We debated, rather hotly, the notion of voting Dem or sitting this one out to teach the Dems a lesson. This is exactly the kind of "shooting ourselves in the foot" that Democratic voters will do. I think I'm a deeply idealistic person, and that translates to: get a Democrat in the WH, and you'll get more of your policies through, even if s/he is not your favorite. At least Republicans get that they're voting for SC judges and others, not just one immoral dirtbag.

 

[Federberg]

So since Biden's gaffe (which he immediately apologised for).. here's what Trump has done...

• gone golfing when the number of coven-19 deaths nears 100,000 (wouldn't be a big deal if he hadn't called Obama on his golfing trips)
• called the former Secretary of State and his last Presidential opponent a skank
• implied Stacey Abrams is obese (pot kettle anyone??)
• accused Joe Scarborough of murder when the death in his Florida congressional office happened while he was in Washington
• attacked Pelosi for her age (pot kettle anyone??)

I could go on, but you get the point. I waited a while to post this, just to give the self righteous, who got their knickers in a twist over Biden's "racist" gaffe, a chance to comment . I would have a bit of respect for their so called balance, their lack of bias, if they did. Waiting...

On another note, it seems as if Biden has some of the teflon qualities Trump has. Quite interesting, I honestly thought this would escalate, but perhaps progressives and the media are starting to get it

 

[britbox]

So since Biden's gaffe (which he immediately apologised for).. here's what Trump has done...

• gone golfing when the number of coven-19 deaths nears 100,000 (wouldn't be a big deal if he hadn't called Obama on his golfing trips)
• called the former Secretary of State and his last Presidential opponent a skank
• implied Stacey Abrams is obese (pot kettle anyone??)
• accused Joe Scarborough of murder when the death in his Florida congressional office happened while he was in Washington
• attacked Pelosi for her age (pot kettle anyone??)

I could go on, but you get the point. I waited a while to post this, just to give the self righteous, who got their knickers in a twist over Biden's "racist" gaffe, a chance to comment . I would have a bit of respect for their so called balance, their lack of bias, if they did. Waiting...

On another note, it seems as if Biden has some of the teflon qualities Trump has. Quite interesting, I honestly thought this would escalate, but perhaps progressives and the media are starting to get it

This must rank up there with the biggest pot/kettle posts...

Mate, you have spent the best part of four years posting about Trump. Some stuff about Biden comes up and it's "Nothing to see here... let's move on quickly". I wouldn't likely have even taken the time to comment about Biden except for the incredible rank hypocrisy of the current Democratic Party and their supporters.

#MeToo**

**excluding Sen. Joe Biden.

 

[Moxie]

This must rank up there with the biggest pot/kettle posts...

Mate, you have spent the best part of four years posting about Trump. Some stuff about Biden comes up and it's "Nothing to see here... let's move on quickly". I wouldn't likely have even taken the time to comment about Biden except for the incredible rank hypocrisy of the current Democratic Party and their supporters.

#MeToo**

**excluding Sen. Joe Biden.

He's not wrong as to his pot/kettle hypocrisies. I have addressed the #metoo as to Biden on this forum. Donald Trump is a serial abuser of women, both physically and verbally, and all across his presidency. He's a pig, as far as his attitude towards women is concerned. That's not really even debatable. There is a vague whiff of it in terms of Biden. I'll make my point again, and I don't think it's hypocritical: we have 2 candidates with mud slung against them, in terms of women calling them out. What to do? Ignore it, and vote for my interests, if this is what I've got. I'm not an idiot. If Democrats hold Biden to a different standard than Republicans hold Trump, we shoot ourselves in the foot. We're into brass knuckle politics. No messing about. If Republicans can be so hypocritical about their "family values" and moral superiority, and yet give us Trump, then yes, Democrats can ignore #metoo, in the vaguaries as they might apply to Biden.

 

[britbox]

He's not wrong as to his pot/kettle hypocrisies. I have addressed the #metoo as to Biden on this forum. Donald Trump is a serial abuser of women, both physically and verbally, and all across his presidency. He's a pig, as far as his attitude towards women is concerned. That's not really even debatable. There is a vague whiff of it in terms of Biden. I'll make my point again, and I don't think it's hypocritical: we have 2 candidates with mud slung against them, in terms of women calling them out. What to do? Ignore it, and vote for my interests, if this is what I've got. I'm not an idiot. If Democrats hold Biden to a different standard than Republicans hold Trump, we shoot ourselves in the foot. We're into brass knuckle politics. No messing about. If Republicans can be so hypocritical about their "family values" and moral superiority, and yet give us Trump, then yes, Democrats can ignore #metoo, in the vaguaries as they might apply to Biden.

That should really read:
If Democrats hold Biden to a different standard than DEMOCRATS hold Trump,

 

[calitennis127]

Trump's not a COVID-19 patient though is he? Why would he be taking anti-Malaria drugs for another disease that he hasn't even got?

Apparently he is taking hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) as a prophylactic. There is nothing wrong with that. Of course, this issue isn't about Trump specifically but about whether HCQ is an effective treatment for "COVID" generally. And it certainly appears to be.

I don't think HCQ is a direct medicine for coronavirus in the sense that it was created specifically to combat it (obviously, given how long it has been around). What is clear is that it helps to relieve the more severe symptoms of "COVID" and keeps people alive when it's used early on enough. It also - contrary to what the media are claiming now - has minimal side effects.

 

[calitennis127]

So since Biden's gaffe (which he immediately apologised for).. here's what Trump has done...

• gone golfing when the number of coven-19 deaths nears 100,000 (wouldn't be a big deal if he hadn't called Obama on his golfing trips)

So one golfing trip makes Trump a hypocrite?

called the former Secretary of State and his last Presidential opponent a skank

That former Secretary of State and last presidential candidate paid for the commission of a slanderous document that claimed Trump was in a Moscow hotel room with prostitutes urinating on the bed.

implied Stacey Abrams is obese (pot kettle anyone??)

She is. But Pelosi said the same about Trump a few days ago and I don't remember you condemning that.

accused Joe Scarborough of murder when the death in his Florida congressional office happened while he was in Washington

You would want that investigated if the allegation was against Trump or a Republican you did not like. Besides, Scarborough attacks Trump every day of the week. Why is Trump not allowed to hit back?

attacked Pelosi for her age (pot kettle anyone??)

Pelosi just called Trump obese a few days ago, and you apparently have a big problem all of a sudden with fat shaming. So why do you have a problem with someone defending themselves?

Pelosi also happens to be the person who signed off on the utterly ridiculous impeachment sham that was based on absurd and utterly vacuous charges. I don't blame Trump for harboring ill-will toward that mumbling, sputtering witch.