US Open [Men] - Grand Slam

[Ricardo]

I know you all have the same different look at this and many other things, its understandable because all of you fall from the same tree.

To end this worthless time wasting, i will not answer your "truths" Kate.
Last thing i want is to make you uncomfortable on your thrones.

Thank you.

Your version of truth....Henmen, Shapo and Davy all got booted and some others even for just saying things, somehow in your twisted mind you think Djoker should be allowed to continue. You must have fell from a tree, hard.

And everyone is biased against Djoker, even his other fans.

 

[calitennis127]

If Djoker got off it, I bet anyone doing anything in future would try....saying ‘Novak hit someone in the throat and I just....’ you know the rest.

But why are you so deeply offended by what Djokovic did? Players hit the ball out of frustration all the time. Djokovic has been on tour a very long time and never done anything like this. I think there should be a penalty for this but an immediate disqualification for a first-time offender strikes me as quite harsh.

 

[Ricardo]

no they didnt, the cameraman at the masters tournament was also hit by the ball, not the same result. Point is there is no clear rule and room for different reactions.

Was he hit in the head? Throat? Eyes? Ears?

 

[Bonaca]

Here's the incident that @Bonaca is citing as the one where someone else did it and didn't get defaulted. Perhaps if Novak had just tagged the woman on the hand lightly things would have ended differently?

Frustrated Bedene accidently hits a cameraman with ball - Stream the Video - Watch ESPN

Aljaz Bedene swings at a ball hoping to hit the tarp behind him, but unintentionally hits a cameraman on Watch ESPN, first streamed on Tuesday, August 25, 2020.

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It is just not that clear like all of you represent it from your thrones, it is an individual decision. Sure instinct on both sides is too much to ask for, i see.

 

[Ricardo]

But why are you so deeply offended by what Djokovic did? Players hit the ball out of frustration all the time. Djokovic has been on tour a very long time and never done anything like this. I think there should be a penalty for this but an immediate disqualification for a first-time offender strikes me as quite harsh.

Not offended by djokers action, neither am I offended by Shapo or Davy’s. But point is, if it’s applied to them, it’s rightful to be applied to Djoker. If you can’t see this, start thinking.

 

[Bonaca]

Was he hit in the head? Throat? Eyes? Ears?

everyone talks about:

hit with ball=disqualification

you got it?

 

[tented]

no they didnt, the cameraman at the masters tournament was also hit by the ball, not the same result. Point is there is no clear rule and room for different reactions.

That ball bounced off something else (rail, I think) — it didn’t hit the cameraman directly.

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

Well I think on the men’s side with these matches today, we are going to see who really wants this given the opportunity.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

This was Djokovic’s comment back in 2016 after several incidents during that year described in the article below:

And pressed on why he was becoming a repeat offender with equipment abuse, Djokovic refused to be apologetic.

"I keep doing these things? I'm close (to being suspended)? I'm still not suspended, so if I'm not close, I'm not close," he said.

"It could have been (serious), yes. It could have snowed in O2 Arena as well, but it didn't. It is not an issue for me. It's not the first time I did it."

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He kept doing things over and over and now he got punished for it and rightfully so! That’s why most of us outside of Djokovic fan boys do not really feel bad for him. He was reckless many times and didn’t care about putting others in danger, until now when he is OUT of the US OPEN!

 

[Bonaca]

But why are you so deeply offended by what Djokovic did? Players hit the ball out of frustration all the time. Djokovic has been on tour a very long time and never done anything like this. I think there should be a penalty for this but an immediate disqualification for a first-time offender strikes me as quite harsh.

Problem is not what, problem is who!

 

[Moxie]

But why are you so deeply offended by what Djokovic did? Players hit the ball out of frustration all the time. Djokovic has been on tour a very long time and never done anything like this. I think there should be a penalty for this but an immediate disqualification for a first-time offender strikes me as quite harsh.

It's not true that Djokovic has "never done anything like this." He's hit the ball and thrown the racquet in anger often, and even prior in yesterday's match. He barely missed hitting a lines person at RG with his racquet. Are you seriously saying that he should get a warning the few first times he actually hits a person, and then someday get defaulted for it?

 

[kskate2]

That’s fair. All four men’s matches today are must-see TV.

Thank you. Everything is right in my world again.

 

[Ricardo]

It is just not that clear like all of you represent it from your thrones, it is an individual decision. Sure instinct on both sides is too much to ask for, i see.

Anything against Novak, bad, unfair, racism.
When Novak gets a pass, even when smuggling his brother into tournaments unqualified, good, good, good.
That’s all it comes down to for you.

And you talk both sides...yeah right.

 

[El Dude]

I'm rather ambivalent about this. The ITF should obviously follow the rules they establish, but as someone pointed out, the wording is subject to interpretation.

What irks me is this notion that there is some sort of ethical absolute, with a clear and obvious answer. Obviously Djokovic didn't mean to hurt anyone, and from what I can tell he didn't even hit the ball all that hard - it was just an (unfortunately) "well" placed strike. I could see an argument that a warning and loss of the point, game, or even set would have been enough.

I do think Djokovic is perhaps overly maligned, as the least liked member of the Big Three. I have a hard time imagining Federer being defaulted for the same act, or Rafa for that matter.

I am glad that this will result in a new Slam champion, although at an unfortunate cost.

 

[Bonaca]

That ball bounced off something else (rail, I think) — it didn’t hit the cameraman directly.

Read the topic: Cameraman was hit, in the video it is not shown, so where do you get your information from?

 

[tented]

You can hear some of what Novak said to the officials in this video.

 

[tented]

Read the topic: Cameraman was hit, in the video it is not shown, so where do you get your information from?

Commentators on ESPN who were there said this.

 

[Ricardo]

I'm rather ambivalent about this. The ITF should obviously follow the rules they establish, but as someone pointed out, the wording is subject to interpretation.

What irks me is this notion that there is some sort of ethical absolute, with a clear and obvious answer. Obviously Djokovic didn't mean to hurt anyone, and from what I can tell he didn't even hit the ball all that hard - it was just an (unfortunately) "well" placed strike. I could see an argument that a warning and loss of the point, game, or even set would have been enough.

I do think Djokovic is perhaps overly maligned, as the least liked member of the Big Three. I have a hard time imagining Federer being defaulted for the same act, or Rafa for that matter.

I am glad that this will result in a new Slam champion, although at an unfortunate cost.

Dumb opinion. Is there any evidence that even implies that Nadal or Fed would get away with it for doing the same? For starters they don’t even whack the ball so what’s the chance of that? Now, this is subject to interpretation how? It’s hit in the throat, not foot, not hip, not arm. Tell us why you think it was applied wrong.

 

[Bonaca]

I'm rather ambivalent about this. The ITF should obviously follow the rules they establish, but as someone pointed out, the wording is subject to interpretation.

What irks me is this notion that there is some sort of ethical absolute, with a clear and obvious answer. Obviously Djokovic didn't mean to hurt anyone, and from what I can tell he didn't even hit the ball all that hard - it was just an (unfortunately) "well" placed strike. I could see an argument that a warning and loss of the point, game, or even set would have been enough.

I do think Djokovic is perhaps overly maligned, as the least liked member of the Big Three. I have a hard time imagining Federer being defaulted for the same act, or Rafa for that matter.

I am glad that this will result in a new Slam champion, although at an unfortunate cost.

That is what i try to say, just suboptimal because of good portion of disappointment and anger.
Question is why, and the answer is not nice.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Dumb opinion. Is there any evidence that even implies that Nadal or Fed would get away with it for doing the same? For starters they don’t even whack the ball so what’s the chance of that? Now, this is subject to interpretation how? It’s hit in the throat, not foot, not hip, not arm. Tell us why you think it was applied wrong.

Sorry but Federer does whack the ball not as much as Djokovic but he also has sometimes a temper. I just want to make sure that you don’t put Djokovic and Federer in the same category as Nadal who is a true class act and professional. Thank you.