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I see PCB is winning this one easily. Figured that'd be the case with Schwartzman a little injured. I think Sam is the only prayer for a competitive final, PCB and KA would get decked. Sam has a small chance

PCB had the whole court open and went right at Schwartzman who lobbed volleyed over his head! I'll never understand having a sitter, the opponent has given up on the point, but still got the ball hit at him! JERK! I played for 30 years and you can count on one hand how many times I've hit someone in singles and a lot of the time it was because the idiot ran into the shot! :nono: :facepalm: :banghead: :cuckoo: :eek:
 

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Carreno Busta must be the most uninspiring semi finalist here at the us open since sjeng schalken in the early 2000s.

Cilic wasn't great either.

Now we move on to the second very exciting QF of the day: Querrey-Anderson.

Unbelievable that one of these three is going to make the final.
 

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Carreno Busta must be the most uninspiring semi finalist here at the us open since sjeng schalken in the early 2000s.

Cilic wasn't great either.

Now we move on to the second very exciting QF of the day: Querrey-Anderson.

Unbelievable that one of these three is going to make the final.

I guess it should have been expected with the draw decimated before the tourney even began! The season's too long, the effort and work put into practice and single matches has gotten ridiculous! I heard a rally with PCB and Schartzy had 29 strokes; more than likely blasting the ball! It's hard to feel sorry for any of them since votes are taken by the tour all the time, but they keep expanding it all; not seeming to care it may not be worth it by the end of the summer! People were tired in past eras, but not "breaking down!" This isn't something that should be a surprise to anyone! :nono: :facepalm: :banghead: :rolleyes:
 
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I can't see Delpo beating Roger or Rafa to be honest. I think we're nailed on for a Fedal semi.
This is the most likely outcome.

I still remember the 2009 final. It was awesome. I still don't know how DP digged that one out. I have difficulty seeing that happen to Fed again, but there is always hope.

Then Rublev, it will come down to his mental state. He seems like a jolly and funny guy but you need to be ready to dig deep and fight for every point against Rafa. At least he is new, so again there is some hope there that he might be able to deliver.
 
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I guess it should have been expect with the draw decimated before the tourney even began! The season's too long, the effort and work put into practice and single matches has gotten ridiculous! I heard a rally with PCB and Schartzy had 29 strokes; more than likely blasting the ball! It's hard to feel sorry for any of them since votes are taken by the tour all the time, but they keep expanding it all; not seeming to care it may not be worth it by the end of the summer! People were tired in past eras, but not "breaking down!" This isn't something that should be a surprise to anyone! :nono: :facepalm: :banghead: :rolleyes:

This wouldn't happen if the courts were a bit faster. I'm not saying go back to the late 90s, but this is a bit ridiculous now.
 

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If Fed wins this tourney he has won three slams this year.
This wouldn't happen if the courts were a bit faster. I'm not saying go back to the late 90s, but this is a bit ridiculous now.
The courts are fine. Plenty of injuries back in the day too.
You are just hedging your bets against Nadal, which really isn't that necessary.
 

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This wouldn't happen if the courts were a bit faster. I'm not saying go back to the late 90s, but this is a bit ridiculous now.

I'm all for it going back to what it was. Fed would toast all of them on faster courts, Nole, Rafa, and everyone else.
 

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If Fed wins this tourney he has won three slams this year.

The courts are fine. Plenty of injuries back in the day too.
You are just hedging your bets against Nadal, which really isn't that necessary.

This will surprise you, but I'm not. I've been saying the same thing for years. Way back when my perspective was based on my preference for attacking points. But now surface homogenisation is coming home to roost. The sport is way more physical than it ever was, and at the same time players are expected to play on surfaces that prolongs match play. Attacking tennis is not really rewarded as much as it should, but yet the best players are increasingly suffering injuries that are precisely because of the attritional nature of the sport. The logical thing to do is to allow the courts to speed up a little bit. I'm not advocating extreme changes. Frankly, I have no issue with some courts remaining relatively slow, but there really should be more faster courts as well. Greater balance for consumers and probably an improvement in player conditioning too. It's a win win to me...
 

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I'm all for it going back to what it was. Fed would toast all of them on faster courts, Nole, Rafa, and everyone else.

I know what you mean, but to be honest we don't want a situation where the likes of Isner and Karlovic are in a position to win slams from serve-fests. Some balance is all I'm asking for
 

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This will surprise you, but I'm not. I've been saying the same thing for years. Way back when my perspective was based on my preference for attacking points. But now surface homogenisation is coming home to roost. The sport is way more physical than it ever was, and at the same time players are expected to play on surfaces that prolongs match play. Attacking tennis is not really rewarded as much as it should, but yet the best players are increasingly suffering injuries that are precisely because of the attritional nature of the sport. The logical thing to do is to allow the courts to speed up a little bit. I'm not advocating extreme changes. Frankly, I have no issue with some courts remaining relatively slow, but there really should be more faster courts as well. Greater balance for consumers and probably an improvement in player conditioning too. It's a win win to me...

Is it really the courts though? Seems more also a question of racket development and balls?

I still think its fine. I mean no bad things for Dr Ivo, but his style of play is a little boring. Attacking players still are very succesfull. Heck Fed is about to win 3/4 slams at age 42!

I have seen Rublev play, Shapovalov, Del Potro. All very exciting players that are getting far into the tourney.
 

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Is it really the courts though? Seems more also a question of racket development and balls?

I still think its fine. I mean no bad things for Dr Ivo, but his style of play is a little boring. Attacking players still are very succesfull. Heck Fed is about to win 3/4 slams at age 42!

I have seen Rublev play, Shapovalov, Del Potro. All very exciting players that are getting far into the tourney.

It's a bit too attritional mate. Which is precisely what increases the risk of injury. They need to correct this in my view. You do have a point about rackets and balls. It just may be the case that they started slowing the courts at just the time that racket technology was catching up with court speed. We'll never know, but some rebalancing would make the sport less attritional. I would definitely argue against doing too much, just a little tweaking
 

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I know what you mean, but to be honest we don't want a situation where the likes of Isner and Karlovic are in a position to win slams from serve-fests. Some balance is all I'm asking for

I still think putting US and Wimbledon back to what it was is fine. I'm not saying every tourney should be fast but it'd be nice to see variety. Also I don't think Ivo or Isner would threaten to win slams. They'd play more of a spoiler role than they do now.
 

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Is it really the courts though? Seems more also a question of racket development and balls?

I still think its fine. I mean no bad things for Dr Ivo, but his style of play is a little boring. Attacking players still are very succesfull. Heck Fed is about to win 3/4 slams at age 42!

I have seen Rublev play, Shapovalov, Del Potro. All very exciting players that are getting far into the tourney.

At most tournaments I think that it's the balls that have been changed. Wimbledon changed the surface and the balls, both of which slowed down play. But at USO I'm pretty sure they haven't changed the surface, they are just using heavier balls.
 

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At most tournaments I think that it's the balls that have been changed. Wimbledon changed the surface and the balls, both of which slowed down play. But at USO I'm pretty sure they haven't changed the surface, they are just using heavier balls.
I'm pretty sure they did resurface Ashe like 2 weeks before the tournament started as they do every year. This is for everyone's reading pleasure.
 

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I don't know whether people noticed it or not. After Fed's match yesterday, he gave an interview at the ESPN booth. In that he said:
"I know Rafa said he does not want to play me. But, I want play him. I think it is good for tennis".

I am keeping my fingers crossed as to Fedal will happen. I think it will. I am more or less sure that Rafa will win against Rublev.
The RF vs. JMDP match might come down to who is less injured, consistent with this year's USO theme.
 

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I don't know whether people noticed it or not. After Fed's match yesterday, he gave an interview at the ESPN booth. In that he said:
"I know Rafa said he does not want to play me. But, I want play him. I think it is good for tennis".

I am keeping my fingers crossed as to Fedal will happen. I think it will. I am more or less sure that Rafa will win against Rublev.
The RF vs. JMDP match might come down to who is less injured, consistent with this year's USO theme.
As a Fed fan, this is a sucky time for them to meet though...Roger beats Rafa when he maintains some consistency . He has been so patchy this tournament. If they played tonight, I would give the edge to Rafa. Roger has to improve significantly in the next match against JMDP to have a chance against Rafa. If both Roger and Rafa are mediocre, Rafa wins. He has more margin for error.
 

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I really like Rublev and think he's going to be a very good player, but his chances of beating Rafa tomorrow are almost nil. I mean, maybe, but I just don't think he'll be able to withstand the distress that Rafa's defense causes. Rublev's only real chance of winning is, I think, to get ahead early and just almost naively push forward without hiccup. But one of Rafa's great gifts is being able to shift the momentum, and once he does I think Rublev will get rolled over.

I hope I'm wrong, of course!
 

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I also think that Rafa has the edge over Roger right now, but am encouraged by Roger's last couple matches. He doesn't seem to be back to his early season form, but he's probably where he was at during Wimbledon. It could be a grueling match and I wouldn't feel confident for either player.
 

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I also think that Rafa has the edge over Roger right now, but am encouraged by Roger's last couple matches. He doesn't seem to be back to his early season form, but he's probably where he was at during Wimbledon. It could be a grueling match and I wouldn't feel confident for either player.
What would be hilarious is a Fedal that is so hard on both of them, the winner is totally hurt or injured and someone from the bottom of the draw wins the whole thing ! Hey man, the way the draw has been this year....
 
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As a Fed fan, this is a sucky time for them to meet though...Roger beats Rafa when he maintains some consistency . He has been so patchy this tournament. If they played tonight, I would give the edge to Rafa. Roger has to improve significantly in the next match against JMDP to have a chance against Rafa. If both Roger and Rafa are mediocre, Rafa wins. He has more margin for error.

I think it comes down to the return if they meet. Roger has not been aggressive off the return here or in Montreal. That's the only thing wrong with the last two matches. He served pretty well, was hitting great and moving fairly well. If he does that and doesn't return well he is in trouble. If he returns like he did earlier this year he'd be the clear favorite.