US Open - Day 5 - Discussion (Men)

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There were 48 games played in this match. 17 of them were breaks (9 by fog and 8 by ralph).
So, over one third of the games ended up in a break. :puzzled
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Poor, Denisovch. Stocked up on beer and chips for Rafa vs. Nole match. :lolz:

Well it would have been done in a quick 80 minutes anyways I guess....
 

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a lot of dodgy tennis going on out there, all those breaks. what a mess.
 

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[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoP236g9QwE[/video]
 

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Cilic won today, that does not bode well for rafa's wtf chances. Ferrer lost too on the other hand.
 

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I can't believe rafa lost to friggin fognini from 2 SETS AND A BREAK UP ..AND ON HARDCOURT.

It is just diabolical. I knew he was going downhill abit, but this is just the biggest pile of faeces ever.
 

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Lol he was a break up in the third?
 

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JesuslookslikeBorg said:
I can't believe rafa lost to friggin fognini from 2 SETS AND A BREAK UP ..AND ON HARDCOURT.

It is just diabolical. I knew he was going downhill abit, but this is just the biggest pile of faeces ever.

Rafa was a break up in the 4th set also, not just in 3rd set.

In 5th Rafa was always behind trying to get the break back.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
JesuslookslikeBorg said:
I can't believe rafa lost to friggin fognini from 2 SETS AND A BREAK UP ..AND ON HARDCOURT.

It is just diabolical. I knew he was going downhill abit, but this is just the biggest pile of faeces ever.

Rafa was a break up in the 4th set also, not just in 3rd set.

In 5th Rafa was always behind trying to get the break back.

Ok thanks, woke up to see the fifth. The serve is def one of the bigger factors in his decline.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
There were 48 games played in this match. 17 of them were breaks (9 by fog and 8 by ralph).
So, over one third of the games ended up in a break. :puzzled

Like female tennis.
 

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Another loss to Fognini? Really? I stopped watching with Nadal up 2 sets to love. Checked the score just now to find out that Fognini clocked him the final three sets? :snicker Damn. That would never have happened if Nadal had been playing Roger because he loves nothing better than beating Roger. From now on - maybe he should just pretend he's playing Roger when the matches get tough? :laydownlaughing Stick a fork in Nadal - at least for the rest of this year...but this sure doesn't bode well for the future. In case Uncle Toni needs some coaching advice? The way forward...is coming forward and shortening the points. If they haven't figured that out by now? :rolleyes: Then Uncle Toni needs to resign.
 

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BratSrbin said:
GameSetAndMath said:
There were 48 games played in this match. 17 of them were breaks (9 by fog and 8 by ralph).
So, over one third of the games ended up in a break. :puzzled

Like female tennis.

Or, ahem, old school clay court tennis.
 

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Another loss to Fognini? Really? I stopped watching with Nadal up 2 sets to love. Checked the score just now to find out that Fognini clocked him the final three sets? :snicker Damn. That would never have happened if Nadal had been playing Roger because he loves nothing better than beating Roger. From now on - maybe he should just pretend he's playing Roger when the matches get tough? :laydownlaughing Stick a fork in Nadal - at least for the rest of this year...but this sure doesn't bode well for the future. In case Uncle Toni needs some coaching advice? The way forward...is coming forward and shortening the points. If they haven't figured that out by now? :rolleyes: Then Uncle Toni needs to resign.

I would love seeing Nadal come forward and shortening the points with that serve! :snicker
 

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The obvious problem is Uncle Toni of course. Rafa just needs to get rid of him and he'll move faster, serve better, hit better forehands, play more aggressively, shorten the points, play the big points better, and even take less time in between points.
 

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I woke up an hour ago and saw the result, and went back asleep thinking about other things. I wasn't disappointed, or shocked, because this isn't a surprise. I didn't feel the usual. It could have happened in the first round, to be honest, if Coric had been able to force a fifth. That kid looks like an exceptional talent. But Rafa also struggled against Peter Dinklage in round two, so losing to Fog in a rollercoaster match of mishaps and dropped serves isn't a huge shock.

It is disappointing, because it's Rafa, but I didn't feel anything remotely like sadness or disappointment. We've all seen him this year, and to be honest, he hasn't been himself since the Oz final in 2014. In fact, go back further and after he won the US Open in 2013, his intensity levels dropped and he coasted for a while. The great furnace that raged on the summer hards that year has been seen rarely since, maybe only a couple of times on clay last summer.

He's showing natural signs of physical wear and tear, it happens to players of a certain vintage, especially when they have so many titles in the bag, and so many miles on the clock. It happened to the great Pete Sampras, too. His mental toughness has been replaced by panic and doubt. He's timid in the clutch and his shots don't carry the physical force or threat they had in the past. Since he came back this year, he's worked hard but he's not the same. Everything takes its toll eventually, and though there's no cure for ageing, I suspect he'll play a lot better before his career is done.

Fair play to Fog, it seems like it was a terrible and great match, lots of spills and mishaps, and he did a remarkable thing to turn it around in his favour...
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
The obvious problem is Uncle Toni of course. Rafa just needs to get rid of him and he'll move faster, serve better, hit better forehands, play more aggressively, shorten the points, play the big points better, and even take less time in between points.

Yeah, that'll happen! :p :cover :puzzled :nono :angel: :dodgy:
 

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Bad day for Spain, Nadal, Ferru, Robredo all out
 

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Fiero425 said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
The obvious problem is Uncle Toni of course. Rafa just needs to get rid of him and he'll move faster, serve better, hit better forehands, play more aggressively, shorten the points, play the big points better, and even take less time in between points.

Yeah, that'll happen! :p :cover :puzzled :nono :angel: :dodgy:

The day you detect sarcasm, it might.
 

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Well, let's hope Djokovic takes advantage of the wonderful gift he is receiving in his part of the draw falling apart. It is like someone out there wants him to win this thing.