The Ultimate FEDAL (Wars) Thread

[Front242]

Lol! Guys why do you engage with her?

I got home from a weekend away and my gym closes at 5:30pm, less than an hour from now. Not worth going now to be honest and I felt compelled to reply to that utter bs on display. Currently messing around with some of my wife's wimpy light weights in the kitchen instead 'cos I can only make it to the gym tomorrow and not again till Saturday

 

[Carol]

Sometimes it's just too fun especially after zingers like Roger only being better than Nadal indoors. Just when I thought it couldn't get any more ridiculous...

As more that you don´t like to heard/read about it I think that Federer is better than Nadal just Indoor because his serve and this goes for your friend Front too and his bs comments

 

[DarthFed]

So just to be clear you think Rafa is superior on grass, fast hards, and slow outdoor hards? Not surprised to see you aren't so good at basic math. There's no curing this kind of "special"

 

[Front242]

As more that you don´t like to heard/read about it I think that Federer is better than Nadal just Indoor because his serve and this goes for your friend Front too and his bs comments

How many non big servers have beaten him on indoor courts? Loads have. It's nothing to do with the serve. It's because the low bounce means his loopy top spin lands right in the hit zone unlike say clay where it bounces shoulder height and makes things extremely difficult. Karlovic would actually not do well at the WTF at all as it's not fast.

 

[Carol]

So just to be clear you think Rafa is superior on grass, fast hards, and slow outdoor hards? Not surprised to see you aren't so good at basic math. There's no curing this kind of "special"

I've never said that Rafa is "superior' on those surfaces but he is as good as your idol, he has showed many times that he can beat Federer and not only on clay and I hope that he continues do it and now more than ever

 

[Carol]

How many non big servers have beaten him on indoor courts? Loads have. It's nothing to do with the serve. It's because the low bounce means his loopy top spin lands right in the hit zone unlike say clay where it bounces shoulder height and makes things extremely difficult. Karlovic would actually not do well at the WTF at all as it's not fast.

Unfortunately Nadal always has arrived to the Indoor season in not very good conditions but I think this year he seems to be much better physically and mentally (also his serve is much better) and I would be very surprised if he doesn't do something good.

 

[Front242]

Unfortunately Nadal always has arrived to the Indoor season in not very good conditions but I think this year he seems to be much better physically and mentally (also his serve is much better) and I would be very surprised if he doesn't do something good.

You were surprised he didn't do something very good all year when he played Federer too.

 

[Federberg]

I've never said that Rafa is "superior' on those surfaces but he is as good as your idol, he has showed many times that he can beat Federer and not only on clay and I hope that he continues do it and now more than ever

Oh now I have to get involved. Normally an assessment of how good a player is on a surface is based on their achievements on that surface. What metric are you using to suggest that Rafa is as good as Roger on those surfaces? I'm genuinely curious

 

[DarthFed]

Unfortunately Nadal always has arrived to the Indoor season in not very good conditions but I think this year he seems to be much better physically and mentally (also his serve is much better) and I would be very surprised if he doesn't do something good.

And weren't you saying mere minutes ago that we shouldn't ever talk about back/mono for any of Fed's losses? Rafa has often been fine during indoor season, his issue is the ball doesn't bounce high as Front mentioned. It doesn't take a big serve or anything special to beat him on this stuff. Whether Roger's back was still bad during 2013 YEC doesn't change the fact it was messed up most of that season and that was his worst year on tour since 2001.

 

[Carol]

You were surprised he didn't do something very good all year when he played Federer too.

I was VERY surprised, Rafa has been too generous with him and I think it´s time to destroy him again :bloodsucker2: (and his fans too)

 

[shawnbm]

I call a time-out!

 

[Front242]

I was VERY surprised, Rafa has been too generous with him and I think it´s time to destroy him again :bloodsucker2: (and his fans too)

LOL, you think Rafa has been generous to Roger? How about the other way around. Don't even get us started 'cos you damn well Roger has thrown way too many matches against that pos.

 

[Carol]

I call a time-out!

Almost impossible...

 

[mrzz]

I am pumping up this thread since we have a Fedal war going on right now destroying the Paris thread.

By the way that discussion made me compile the H2H like this:

On clay:

13 x 2 Nadal

Indoors:

5 x 1 Federer

Rest

9 x 8 Nadal

Obviously people already broke it down in a gazillion ways but like this you have one dominant surface for each and a pretty close result on the rest. Explains a lot in a few lines. Now please carry on folks.

 

[Front242]

Don't disdain Chung, he plays very fast and makes good shots and Zverev is all serve and volley but plays like a chicken without head

That same chicken without head made mince meat out of Murray at the AO so he must be doing something right...

 

[mrzz]

That same chicken without head made mince meat out of Murray at the AO so he must be doing something right...

peak headless chicken > peak Murray

YEAH!

 

[Carol]

LOL, you think Rafa has been generous to Roger? How about the other way around. Don't even get us started 'cos you damn well Roger has thrown way too many matches against that pos.

“Don’t even get us started...,,”, don’t you think you have started already for long time?

 

[Federberg]

I guess you won't answer my question Carol?

 

[El Dude]

All fans are biased to some degree or another.

And then there's Carol.

 

[shawnbm]

Remember MIkeOne and SamprasFan???? Now, there was some bias! LOL