The Rankings Thread (ATP)

[Kirijax]

New Career highs:

25. Jack Sock 23y
31. Steve Johnson 25y
34. Joao Sousa 26y
89. Yuki Bhambri 23y

Great for Sock. He could meet Wawrinka in the 3rd round, beat him, keep going and jump into the Top 20 by the end of the year! OK, I'm getting ahead of myself a bit here...

 

[isabelle]

Happy for Sock

 

[herios]

New career high this week, Nov. 2, 2015:

25. Jack Sock 23y
31. Steve Johnson 25y
34. Joao Sousa 26y
89. Yuki Bhambri 23y

 

 

[Thrash13]

All of a sudden, the United States has 3 guys in the top 31 in the rankings! We definitely don't have a star, but a couple guys are starting to get more consistent and move up the rankings. I'm looking forward to seeing how Isner and Sock perform this week in Paris, and I'm ready to see how things pan out over the next year or so.

 

[nehmeth]

All of a sudden, the United States has 3 guys in the top 31 in the rankings! We definitely don't have a star, but a couple guys are starting to get more consistent and move up the rankings. I'm looking forward to seeing how Isner and Sock perform this week in Paris, and I'm ready to see how things pan out over the next year or so.

Was watching the one match with Sock and one of the player/commentators was saying he expected Jack to make top 20 and possibly top ten in a couple of years. Not sure I have that much faith, but the kid is a fighter and that forehand can do some damage.

 

[herios]

All of a sudden, the United States has 3 guys in the top 31 in the rankings! We definitely don't have a star, but a couple guys are starting to get more consistent and move up the rankings. I'm looking forward to seeing how Isner and Sock perform this week in Paris, and I'm ready to see how things pan out over the next year or so.

Was watching the one match with Sock and one of the player/commentators was saying he expected Jack to make top 20 and possibly top ten in a couple of years. Not sure I have that much faith, but the kid is a fighter and that forehand can do some damage.

If Querrey was able to get into the top 20 a few years ago, so will Jack. Top 10 is a stretch at this point, but if he will work hard on his BH the next few years, it will be possible.

 

[Billie]

^ good for all of them!

I want to add that Nole has 171 weeks at #1 now and it is the 5th most in the open era.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/djokovic-171-weeks-no-1-emirates-atp-rankings

 

There is also a change in the doubles rankings, Marcelo Melo is now #1 doubles player (individually), replacing Bryan Bros at the top:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/melo-climbs-to-number-1

 

[samt]

Sock has most potential of current American crop, but unlikely top 10 material. I haven't been following up and comers from US much, but I've heard of next gen kids: Frances Tiafoe, Taylor Fritz, Stefan Kozlov....and some say they could blossom into potential top 10....? Would love to see a Sampras, Agassi, McEnroe, Chang, or even Roddick emerge soon...it's getting depressing!

All of a sudden, the United States has 3 guys in the top 31 in the rankings! We definitely don't have a star, but a couple guys are starting to get more consistent and move up the rankings. I'm looking forward to seeing how Isner and Sock perform this week in Paris, and I'm ready to see how things pan out over the next year or so.

Was watching the one match with Sock and one of the player/commentators was saying he expected Jack to make top 20 and possibly top ten in a couple of years. Not sure I have that much faith, but the kid is a fighter and that forehand can do some damage.

If Querrey was able to get into the top 20 a few years ago, so will Jack. Top 10 is a stretch at this point, but if he will work hard on his BH the next few years, it will be possible.

 

[Kirijax]

Sock has most potential of current American crop, but unlikely top 10 material. I haven't been following up and comers from US much, but I've heard of next gen kids: Frances Tiafoe, Taylor Fritz, Stefan Kozlov....and some say they could blossom into potential top 10....? Would love to see a Sampras, Agassi, McEnroe, Chang, or even Roddick emerge soon...it's getting depressing!

Was watching the one match with Sock and one of the player/commentators was saying he expected Jack to make top 20 and possibly top ten in a couple of years. Not sure I have that much faith, but the kid is a fighter and that forehand can do some damage.

If Querrey was able to get into the top 20 a few years ago, so will Jack. Top 10 is a stretch at this point, but if he will work hard on his BH the next few years, it will be possible.

I agree! But those young names you listed. There is some real potential there and we just might see another Sampras-Agassi-Courier-Chang in the bunch. Got to keep hoping! This can't last forever!

Can it?

 

[Kieran]

Welcome, samt!

Even a roddick would be welcome. The US has been developing good Eastern European girls for a long time, and of course the WS are stellar, but in the men's game, it's still a mystery...

 

[Great Hands]

I have no sympathy. Here in the U.K, we had to wait almost 80 years for a men's grand slam champ. You've only been waiting 12 years, and you're already complaining!

But seriously, imagine if you still hadn't had a grand slam champ on the men's side in 2079. (And you hadn't had a slam champ of either gender since 2044!) That's how it was for us in 2012.
And then imagine an American guy finally won one. Imagine how you would feel.
Well, that's how we feel about Andy!

 

[Great Hands]

I have no sympathy. Here in the U.K, we had to wait almost 80 years for a men's grand slam champ. You've only been waiting 12 years, and you're already complaining!

But seriously, imagine if you still hadn't had a grand slam champ on the men's side in 2079. (And you hadn't had a slam champ of either gender since 2044!) That's how it was for us in 2012.
And then imagine an American guy finally won one. Imagine how you would feel.
Well, that's how we feel about Andy!

 

[Moxie]

This is a big week for Novak.  Congratulations!

 

 

[britbox]

Rankings:

Roger back to #2 of course.

1 Novak Djokovic 15,785
2 Roger Federer 8,250
3 Andy Murray 8,070
4 Stan Wawrinka 6,585
5 Tomas Berdych 4,730
6 Rafael Nadal 4,630
7 Kei Nishikori 4,440
8 David Ferrer 3,945
9 Richard Gasquet 2,715
10 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 2,545
11 Marin Cilic 2,485
12 Kevin Anderson 2,475
13 John Isner 2,360
14 Milos Raonic 2,170
15 Gilles Simon 2,100
16 David Goffin 1,760
17 Feliciano Lopez 1,725
18 Bernard Tomic 1,675
19 Dominic Thiem 1,600
20 Gael Monfils 1,590
21 Ivo Karlovic 1,565
22 Fabio Fognini 1,550
23 Benoit Paire 1,528
24 Roberto Bautista Agut 1,525
25 Jack Sock 1,470
26 Guillermo Garcia-Lopez 1,465
27 Viktor Troicki 1,442
28 Andreas Seppi 1,405
29 Grigor Dimitrov 1,315
30 Nick Kyrgios 1,260
31 Steve Johnson 1,240
32 Jeremy Chardy 1,230
33 Philipp Kohlschreiber 1,230
34 Joao Sousa 1,191
35 Pablo Cuevas 1,145
36 Leonardo Mayer 1,125
37 Alexandr Dolgopolov 1,110
38 Gilles Muller 1,105
39 Jiri Vesely 1,092
40 Thomaz Bellucci 1,080
41 Vasek Pospisil 1,075
42 Adrian Mannarino 1,035
43 Tommy Robredo 1,000
44 Martin Klizan 990
45 Marcos Baghdatis 933
46 Borna Coric 916
47 Fernando Verdasco 910
48 Donald Young 907
49 Aljaz Bedene 877
50 Teymuraz Gabashvili 857
51 Hyeon Chung 830
52 Victor Estrella Burgos 822
53 Sam Groth 820
54 Federico Delbonis 815
55 Juan Monaco 810
56 Albert Ramos-Vinolas 798
57 Jerzy Janowicz 795
58 Simone Bolelli 790
59 Sam Querrey 785
60 Denis Istomin 781
61 Sergiy Stakhovsky 780
62 Andreas Haider-Maurer 775
63 Pablo Andujar 770
64 Mikhail Kukushkin 762
65 Robin Haase 740
66 Lukas Rosol 737
67 Denis Kudla 729
68 Paolo Lorenzi 725
69 Pablo Carreno Busta 719
70 Nicolas Mahut 718
71 Santiago Giraldo 716
72 Nicolas Almagro 694
73 Yen-Hsun Lu 674
74 John Millman 674
75 Guido Pella 671
76 Ricardas Berankis 664
77 Diego Schwartzman 663
78 Andrey Kuznetsov 663
79 Thanasi Kokkinakis 661
80 Ernests Gulbis 655
81 Damir Dzumhur 648
82 Alexander Zverev 647
83 Illya Marchenko 647
84 Lucas Pouille 645
85 Steve Darcis 638
86 Daniel Munoz-De La Nava 629
87 Dusan Lajovic 628
88 Marcel Granollers 619
89 Yuki Bhambri 617
90 Marco Cecchinato 615
91 Nikoloz Basilashvili 610
92 Dudi Sela 593
93 Daniel Gimeno-Traver 590
94 Evgeny Donskoy 589
95 Malek Jaziri 588
96 Thiemo de Bakker 587
97 Filip Krajinovic 574
98 Paul-Henri Mathieu 573
99 Marsel Ilhan 572
100 Austin Krajicek 570

 

[isabelle]

Federer back to 3 after Bercy

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Now, it is guaranteed that Rafa cannot get a top 4 seeding for AO. He is at #5 right now and has no chance of becoming number 4 in time for AO. But, he has tremendous chances of doing so by the time RG comes around.

 

[herios]

Sock has most potential of current American crop, but unlikely top 10 material. I haven't been following up and comers from US much, but I've heard of next gen kids: Frances Tiafoe, Taylor Fritz, Stefan Kozlov....and some say they could blossom into potential top 10....? Would love to see a Sampras, Agassi, McEnroe, Chang, or even Roddick emerge soon...it's getting depressing!

If Querrey was able to get into the top 20 a few years ago, so will Jack. Top 10 is a stretch at this point, but if he will work hard on his BH the next few years, it will be possible.

I agree! But those young names you listed. There is some real potential there and we just might see another Sampras-Agassi-Courier-Chang in the bunch. Got to keep hoping! This can't last forever!

Can it?

Way too early to make such predictions. Those players around 18 or so have lots of time to develop and get better, but the question will always be how far they can go.
US tennis establishment has several times shoot himself in the foot: D. Young, or R. Harrison.
Some of these young players could have a similar destiny, becoming just an average player, therefore it is wiser not to expect too much at this time.
By the way, I am seeing inconsistencies in Tiafoe and Donaldson results, like losing to much lower ranked players, therefore, let's just have patience and wait.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Andy is right now 1130 points ahead of Federer, after Bercy tourney. In order to transform the virtual #2 into actual year end #2, here is what he needs to do.

a. If Andy wins two RR matches in WTF, then Andy is guaranteed to end up as YE #2, even if Fed becomes the undefeated champion at WTF.

b. If Fed loses at least one match in London (even if he becomes the champion), Andy need to win just one RR match to guarantee #2 finish.

c. Assuming Andy can win 2 live singles rubbers in Belgium and UK wins DC, that will fetch Andy 225 points (2*75 for the two singles rubber and 75 points team bonus). In that case, Andy does not even have to play in London to guarantee #2 finish, assuming Fed loses at least one match in London.

 

[Fiero425]

I could have sworn I heard the commentators of the TCC say that Federer will end up #2! Either my hearing's going or they're totally mistaken! Maybe they know something we don't know about Murray playing YEC or not due to pending DC final against Belgium! Anyone?? ;-)

 

[herios]

I could have sworn I heard the commentators of the TCC say that Federer will end up #2! Either my hearing's going or they're totally mistaken! Maybe they know something we don't know about Murray playing YEC or not due to pending DC final against Belgium! Anyone?? ;-)

Even if Andy skips somehow the YEC, Roger has to win that event to reclaim the #2.
At this point, Andy is almost sure will finish #2.
Roger lost the plot on the Shanghai-Paris axis.