The Rankings Thread (ATP)

[Fiero425]

I didn't think I'd live to see this day; "The Live Rankings" have Rafa dropping out of the top 10, settling at #11! He lost his 2000 points for winning last season's FO and will languish outside of the top echelon if he doesn't get past all comers including NOLE and defend this title! - - - - - http://live-tennis.eu/ - - :clap :angel: :dodgy:

 

[El Dude]

Wow, didn't realize Rafa was #11 in the live rankings with only 2580 points. To follow-up a bit on what others have said, the best he can do is finish the tournament at #6. Anything less than a win and he's no higher than #9.

 

[Fiero425]

Wow, didn't realize Rafa was #11 in the live rankings with only 2580 points. To follow-up a bit on what others have said, the best he can do is finish the tournament at #6. Anything less than a win and he's no higher than #9.

People think he has all kinds of time this season to recovery since he isn't defending many points! Why should he do better this year in the summer and fall? His 2013 is the only decent result he's had overall with terrible upsets and absences from the tour that time of the year! I'm amazed he's hung on this long with the way he plays the game! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

 

[herios]

Big ranking pressure on Gulbis at RG. He was going to drop to 90, if he was going to be eliminated in R1.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

25.05.2015. career highs.

31. dominic theim......21y 8m.
46. borna coric..........18y 6m.

 

[herios]

25.05.2015. career highs.

31. dominic theim......21y 8m.
46. borna coric..........18y 6m.

In addition to Thiem and Coric, also new career highs for:

22. Leonardo Mayer 28y
90. Lucas Pouille 21y

 

[Kirijax]

Just took a look at the Live ATP Rankings. Nadal is at No. 11. That looks so odd. I'm sure he will move back up into the top ten before the FO is over, but still. Weird.

 

[Shamal90]

This year the young players are improving noticeably in rankings: Kyrgios, Coric, Theim...
if they do good here in Roland Garros, it will give them a great morale in the remaining of the season.

 

[Kirijax]

This year the young players are improving noticeably in rankings: Kyrgios, Coric, Theim...
if they do good here in Roland Garros, it will give them a great morale in the remaining of the season.

Things are definitely more interesting when there are some promising young players in the draw. Will be interesting to see how much damage they can cause at the French Open.

 

[herios]

Just took a look at the Live ATP Rankings. Nadal is at No. 11. That looks so odd. I'm sure he will move back up into the top ten before the FO is over, but still. Weird.

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It is quite possible he is not moving up at all before RG is over. If Grigor makes the 4th round and Rafa loses in the QF to Djokovic, he stays where he is.

 

[Johnsteinbeck]

This year the young players are improving noticeably in rankings: Kyrgios, Coric, Theim...
if they do good here in Roland Garros, it will give them a great morale in the remaining of the season.

Things are definitely more interesting when there are some promising young players in the draw. Will be interesting to see how much damage they can cause at the French Open.

quite happy for Thiem. crucial time for him: if he does well now, he has good chances to be seeded at both Wimbledon and (further down the road) the USO. but i'm afraid that another win at RG would be a bit much to ask for - he's played a lot in the past days, and Cuevas knows his way around a clay court.

 

[Fiero425]

Well it finally happened; ytd ranking has Federer dropping to #5 with Berdych and Ferrer jumping over him to #3 & #4 respectively! Roger still holding onto #2 on the ATP computer! Nole and Andy already on top and to qualify for YEC by now!

 

[Fiero425]

Well it finally happened; ytd ranking has Federer dropping to #5 with Berdych and Ferrer jumping over him to #3 & #4 respectively! Roger still holding onto #2 on the ATP computer! Nole and Andy already on top and to qualify for YEC by now!

The live ranking has shifted things and it's looking even more dower for Rafa with Kei moving up, Ferrer and Wawrinka taking a leap, and Cilic back in the top 10! Regardless of what Nadal does, win lose or draw, he can only hope for #6 in the world after the FO! His Wimbledon seeding won't even be in the top 10 since they've gone to a system with grass play results determining it! :angel: :dodgy: - http://live-tennis.eu/ -

 

[Johnsteinbeck]

^ is that just an estimate or did you do the math?

Wimby system is: ATP Entry System Position points + 100% points earned for all grass court tournaments in the past 12 months + 75% points earned for the best grass court tournament in the 12 months before that. (thanks, Wikipedia)

that means the point boost players get usually isn't all that much. even though Rafa pretty much zeroes out, i'm not sure who'd exactly have enough grass bonus to overtake him. Raonic and maybe Dimitrov?

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Nadalites, take heart. It is not a big deal where exactly Rafa is seeded as long as it is within the range 5-12, as he won't get his own quarter anyway and in R16 players ranked 5-8 play against players ranked 9-12.

However, Rafa should be careful enough and not slip beyond 12. This is because players ranked 1-4 face players ranked 13-16 in round of 16. So, if Rafa drops below 12 in Wimbledon seeding,
he will have to face one of Novak, Fed, Andy or Kei in the round of 16. That is a 75% chance of playing another member of big 3.

But, I don't think it will go that far. He is playing in both Stuttgart and Queens. The points that he gets there will essentially be counted twice (they will count for the rankings and they will also count as points earned on grass this year) for seeding purposes and so he should not have difficulty maintaining his position in top 12.

 

[Fiero425]

Nadalites, take heart. It is not a big deal where exactly Rafa is seeded as long as it is within the range 5-12, as he won't get his own quarter anyway and in R16 players ranked 5-8 play against players ranked 9-12.

However, Rafa should be careful enough and not slip beyond 12. This is because players ranked 1-4 face players ranked 13-16 in round of 16. So, if Rafa drops below 12 in Wimbledon seeding,
he will have to face one of Novak, Fed, Andy or Kei in the round of 16. That is a 75% chance of playing another member of big 3.

But, I don't think it will go that far. He is playing in both Stuttgart and Queens. The points that he gets there will essentially be counted twice (they will count for the rankings and they will also count as points earned on grass this year) for seeding purposes and so he should not have difficulty maintaining his position in top 12.

:lolz: All this speculation about later rounds; who said he'll make it? Why isn't it just as likely as the last 3 years that some nobody makes a name for themselves by knocking Nadal out again in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round? :cover uzzled :nono :angel: :dodgy:

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Nadalites, take heart. It is not a big deal where exactly Rafa is seeded as long as it is within the range 5-12, as he won't get his own quarter anyway and in R16 players ranked 5-8 play against players ranked 9-12.

However, Rafa should be careful enough and not slip beyond 12. This is because players ranked 1-4 face players ranked 13-16 in round of 16. So, if Rafa drops below 12 in Wimbledon seeding,
he will have to face one of Novak, Fed, Andy or Kei in the round of 16. That is a 75% chance of playing another member of big 3.

But, I don't think it will go that far. He is playing in both Stuttgart and Queens. The points that he gets there will essentially be counted twice (they will count for the rankings and they will also count as points earned on grass this year) for seeding purposes and so he should not have difficulty maintaining his position in top 12.

:lolz: All this speculation about later rounds; who said he'll make it? Why isn't it just as likely as the last 3 years that some nobody makes a name for themselves by knocking Nadal out again in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round? :cover uzzled :nono :angel: :dodgy:

I was just trying to console the Nadalites out of compassion and you are reminding of the truth. :nono

 

[Fiero425]

Nadalites, take heart. It is not a big deal where exactly Rafa is seeded as long as it is within the range 5-12, as he won't get his own quarter anyway and in R16 players ranked 5-8 play against players ranked 9-12.

However, Rafa should be careful enough and not slip beyond 12. This is because players ranked 1-4 face players ranked 13-16 in round of 16. So, if Rafa drops below 12 in Wimbledon seeding,
he will have to face one of Novak, Fed, Andy or Kei in the round of 16. That is a 75% chance of playing another member of big 3.

But, I don't think it will go that far. He is playing in both Stuttgart and Queens. The points that he gets there will essentially be counted twice (they will count for the rankings and they will also count as points earned on grass this year) for seeding purposes and so he should not have difficulty maintaining his position in top 12.

:lolz: All this speculation about later rounds; who said he'll make it? Why isn't it just as likely as the last 3 years that some nobody makes a name for themselves by knocking Nadal out again in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round? :cover uzzled :nono :angel: :dodgy:

I was just trying to console the Nadalites out of compassion and you are reminding them of the truth. :nono

They had to know this day was coming! I've been saying for years, playing like that will have debilitating affects to him! If he only did it against the top echelon, it might not have been so bad, but he gets into battles with players no one knows; going the limit with qualifiers, wildcards, and "never-weres!" The same can be said of Murray until recently, but he's already abused his body enormously! I'm not going to say this is the end for Nadal, but right now they can't blame a year of bad results on injury or exhaustion! He can't even take solace in winning on his beloved clay, losing the last semblance of dominance his fans have been bragging about for years by going out in the QF to Nole yesterday! :nono

 

[GameSetAndMath]

With Tsonga's loss today, Rafa avoids the ignominy of being thrown out of top 10.

 

[Kieran]

With Tsonga's loss today, Rafa avoids the ignominy of being thrown out of top 10.

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You're obsessed with young Ralph.

The correct term is, he would fall out of the top ten. It's all the sweeter for us to count his steps upwards for the rest of the year. Remind me when he gets thrown back into the top five, will ya?