The Rankings Thread (ATP)

[Fiero425]

What happens if Rafa wins Rome? Top 4 again, depending on who he beats?

I haven't checked in the last 5 minutes, but it all depends on what the other players do in Rome! Milos' is out, Kei's in Nole's half, while Tomas is down in Rafa's! They all have their own fate in their hands concerning FO seeding! :angel:

 

[mrzz]

What happens if Rafa wins Rome?

Fiero shoots himself in the head, DarthFed throws up for two days and Front finds a way to refer to Soderling in all his posts.

 

[Kieran]

What happens if Rafa wins Rome?

Fiero shoots himself in the head, DarthFed throws up for two days and Front finds a way to refer to Soderling in all his posts.

:laydownlaughing

Here's hoping!

 

[Fiero425]

What happens if Rafa wins Rome?

Fiero shoots himself in the head, DarthFed throws up for two days and Front finds a way to refer to Soderling in all his posts.

:laydownlaughing

Here's hoping!

Really? :cover uzzled :nono

 

[GameSetAndMath]

What happens if Rafa wins Rome? Top 4 again, depending on who he beats?

That situation is more complicated.

It is guaranteed that Rafa cannot climb back to #4 without winning Rome.

However, if he wins Rome it may not be enough. Given that Raonic is out,
Rafa is competing with Kei and Berdych for the #4 spot. It is possible that Kei and/or Bird
beats out Rafa in ranking points even if Rafa wins Rome outright.

I decided it is not worth calculating exactly the details as Rafa is not going to win Rome.:snicker

 

[tented]

What happens if Rafa wins Rome? Top 4 again, depending on who he beats?

That situation is more complicated.

It is guaranteed that Rafa cannot climb back to #4 without winning Rome.

However, if he wins Rome it may not be enough. Given that Raonic is out,
Rafa is competing with Kei and Berdych for the #4 spot. It is possible that Kei and/or Bird
beats out Rafa in ranking points even if Rafa wins Rome outright.

I decided it is not worth calculating exactly the details as Rafa is not going to win Rome.:snicker

That's a shame. It would have been fun to know.

Anyone remember the user Reddy? He was always awesome with numbers.

 

[Denis]

What happens if Rafa wins Rome? Top 4 again, depending on who he beats?

That situation is more complicated.

It is guaranteed that Rafa cannot climb back to #4 without winning Rome.

However, if he wins Rome it may not be enough. Given that Raonic is out,
Rafa is competing with Kei and Berdych for the #4 spot. It is possible that Kei and/or Bird
beats out Rafa in ranking points even if Rafa wins Rome outright.

I decided it is not worth calculating exactly the details as Rafa is not going to win Rome.:snicker

That's a shame. It would have been fun to know.

Anyone remember the user Reddy? He was always awesome with numbers.

That's a bit unfair to gsm. He does a lot of these calculations for us.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

OK, due to popular demand, I computed.

In order for Rafa to get back to top 4 in time for RG seeding, he needs to win Rome, and neither Berdych nor Kei should reach SF (or better).

Assuming Nole can stop Kei in quarters, only Federer can save Rafa by beating Berdych in quarters.
Now, all Nadalites should beg for mercy from the Mastero.

 

[tented]

That situation is more complicated.

It is guaranteed that Rafa cannot climb back to #4 without winning Rome.

However, if he wins Rome it may not be enough. Given that Raonic is out,
Rafa is competing with Kei and Berdych for the #4 spot. It is possible that Kei and/or Bird
beats out Rafa in ranking points even if Rafa wins Rome outright.

I decided it is not worth calculating exactly the details as Rafa is not going to win Rome.:snicker

That's a shame. It would have been fun to know.

Anyone remember the user Reddy? He was always awesome with numbers.

That's a bit unfair to gsm. He does a lot of these calculations for us.

True, but I was disappointed he didn't do this one simply because he doesn't think Rafa will win. Half the fun is discussing all possible permutations.

 

[tented]

OK, due to popular demand, I computed.

In order for Rafa not to be in top 4 even after winning Rome, at least one of Berdych or Kei
should not reach SF (or better).

Assuming Nole can stop Kei in quarters, only Federer can save Rafa by beating Berdych in quarters.
Now, all Nadalites should beg for mercy from the Mastero.

Thank you! :clap :hug

 

[tented]

OK, due to popular demand, I computed.

In order for Rafa to get back to top 4 in time for RG seeding, he needs to win Rome, and neither Berdych nor Kei should reach SF (or better).

Assuming Nole can stop Kei in quarters, only Federer can save Rafa by beating Berdych in quarters.
Now, all Nadalites should beg for mercy from the Mastero.

I'm always up for Fed beating Berdych -- sorry Kirijax! -- so that's a great plan.

 

[herios]

What happens if Rafa wins Rome? Top 4 again, depending on who he beats?

That situation is more complicated.

It is guaranteed that Rafa cannot climb back to #4 without winning Rome.

However, if he wins Rome it may not be enough. Given that Raonic is out,
Rafa is competing with Kei and Berdych for the #4 spot. It is possible that Kei and/or Bird
beats out Rafa in ranking points even if Rafa wins Rome outright.

I decided it is not worth calculating exactly the details as Rafa is not going to win Rome.:snicker

That's a shame. It would have been fun to know.

Anyone remember the user Reddy? He was always awesome with numbers.

You forgot that I always was the back up for Reddy

The situation is the following, if Rafa wins Rome, will be enough for #4, with the condition that neither Kei, not Tomas makes the SF.

Once one of them makes it there, he is out of reach for Rafa. Between Tomas and Kei, Tomas has the upper hand. Kei have to make one round further, in case Rafa fails to win.

 

[herios]

OK, due to popular demand, I computed.

In order for Rafa to get back to top 4 in time for RG seeding, he needs to win Rome, and neither Berdych nor Kei should reach SF (or better).

Assuming Nole can stop Kei in quarters, only Federer can save Rafa by beating Berdych in quarters.
Now, all Nadalites should beg for mercy from the Mastero.

It seems I came to late to the rescue...

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Assuming, it is difficult for Rafa to beat Novak, Novak should beat Kei in quarters and then lose
to Ferrer in the semis. Of course, we are assuming here that Andy loses to Ferrer in QF (or before)
due to excessive play in recent times. Rafa then has better chances of beating Fed in SF and Ferrer in F. That is a lot of "if"s.

 

[Fiero425]

OK, due to popular demand, I computed.

In order for Rafa to get back to top 4 in time for RG seeding, he needs to win Rome, and neither Berdych nor Kei should reach SF (or better).

Assuming Nole can stop Kei in quarters, only Federer can save Rafa by beating Berdych in quarters.
Now, all Nadalites should beg for mercy from the Mastero.

I'm always up for Fed beating Berdych -- sorry Kirijax! -- so that's a great plan.

It should happen, but maybe Tomas will activate his brain and not fall into his usual patterns of play like Ferrer! It's like they say to themselves, "I'm going down in flames with what brought me here!" There's no imagination or real change of strategy it seems to me with these 2! It's ok to keep them in the top 10, but when it comes to the "Big 4," there just isn't much success! Neither seem to have the ability to make even the minutest of change to overcome their shortcomings! :cover :nono :angel:

 

[herios]

Worth to mention that Berdych never been ranked in the top 4. This is his big chance to make it happen.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Anyone remember the user Reddy? He was always awesome with numbers.

Reddy deserves extra applause because he used to do these calculations even in days when
there was no help from live rankings page.

 

[Denis]

Worth to mention that Berdych never been ranked in the top 4. This is his big chance to make it happen.

Berdy has been on the rise for a while now. A semi spot should be achievable for him which will clinch it.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Such a shame for Milos not to be able to defend his semi points in Rome, right after making it into top 4.

 

[Moxie]

RIP Reddy. Any chance they don't all tank in order to let Rafa be ranked #4? :snicker The only one it doesn't serve is Kei, and they'd probably throw him under the bus. :laydownlaughing (I am kidding.)