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Ha, unbelievable your take of than Masterplan music is 100% opposite to mine. I'm bored at the start when this B2 tonic starts and the singer follows that single chord in B-minor scale, thinking "Oh no, how long can my ear tolerate that?" Thank goodness at was 27 secs only, after what true music starts while it ends for you. Of course we are never going to agree on anything here, given how different our perceptions are, so no point discussing it.
But it's worth throwing in couple comments to your selection of "good singing". Nice variety of pop songs, and even some Scottish folk to spice the lot, thanks! I actually enjoyed Scottish songs the best. Most of your pop songs are simple numbers that standard major chord progressions (like I-IV-V) can cover. So not of special interest for me. The notable exceptions in this scheme are of course Queen, Moody Blues & Whitney Houston pieces but that should be obvious to everyone I think.
Of course I acknowledge, that even very average pieces in this collection, have their merits; like e.g. Believe by Cher - a very simplistic (I'd even say primitive) piece of music and very average vocal performance - yet the clever use of auto-tune machine as voice enhancement (the very first time) resulted in interesting effects. But I'd argue it's not the art of "good singing" but rather the art of using a computer to create the new kind of music. Many artists use such techniques nowadays with incredible effects; Cher was the first one. But sorry, I cannot call the modulations of Cher's voice "singing" anymore.
Finally, I'd like to note that Rod Stewart's rendition of Have You Ever Seen Rain, is not the original one, nor a good one. The original by CCR sounds much better:

ask anyone who lives(d) in Seattle WA, like myself, they have been listening to this song so many times... No doubt they would agree with me that this song belongs to CCR and those who triy to imitate, even RS, come out poorly. I would even generalise this opinion to most Americans.

I think it's unbelievable that you can enjoy listening to people screaming & shouting at the top of their voices & playing their instruments as loudly as they can while you think singers who can hit high notes but control their voices enough to sing low notes & they can carry a tune too can't sing. (If I'd have "sung" like some of the so-called singers you like at school I'd have been told to sing it again properly without shouting until I got it right.) Most of what you think of as true music I think of as so-called musicians screaming at the top of their voices & banging their instruments as loudly as they can. (I guess we're both thinking the other person doesn't appreciate good music, though.) I think you've actually damaged your eardrums already listening to that music. Your so-called high standards in music I wouldn't call that high. In fact I'd call them pretty low but everyone's got different tastes. I've shown you proper music. I agree with you that most old music is better than so-called new music though. I would also agree with you that there is a science to music which anyone who knows about soundwaves & how they're produced & how our voices & ears work would all agree on but I don't think you've found the proper formula.

You're welcome. I enjoyed the Scottish songs the best too. I prefer the songs which depict events in history best in the same way that I prefer songs that mean something. I like some hard-to-sing songs which gives singers a chance to show off sometimes but I also like simple songs to sing. The reason behind that is if I hear songs I know I always find the need to sing along. I like easy-to-sing songs as warm-up pieces before I go on to singing mid-range & hard-to-sing songs & I'm naughty in that sometimes I'll sing songs when I've got a sore throat which I know I shouldn't do as it can damage your voice so easy to sing songs are good then. (I like listening to the words as well as singing along. I like songs with a lot of meaning to them. Do you even listen to the words?) I sing the odd crescendo & diminuendo.

I'd actually call your screaming, banging pieces of music the simplistic pieces. I actually like to listen & sing along to the words. I like songs that mean something. Do you actually listen to the words? (I wouldn't have even started slagging off your music if you hadn't started slagging off Double Bagel's music. I'd have just said thank you very much for sharing & been rather euphemistic about how I said it's a bit different & respected the fact we have the right to different tastes. I'd have just kept my thoughts to myself because who wants to know what I think anyway.) I think Cher's Believe was a good example of someone being able to echo their voice naturally through hard work & practise. I can do that too. I must say I think you've got a weird idea of singing & you classed all the music I shared as pop except for the Scottish music. F.Y.I. Queen, the Moodies, Bryan Adams, Meatloaf & Rod Stewart are rock singers, Kenny Rogers is a country singer, Diana Ross is a Motown singer & Bob Marley is a reggae singer. I disagree with your opinion about the Rod Stewart song I shared. You wouldn't like this guy who I think is a brilliant singer & yodeller then. I also like Louis Armstrong like you do.



There is a lot of voice control there.

I actually picked a playlist so you could pick your own but it only picked up the 1st 1. I'd never heard that song before. I prefer "Sailing" & "You wear it well".

I don't want to fall out, offend or criticise you or your tastes but you were criticising not only mine but Double Bagel's tastes so I got fed up & retaliated. I don't want to fall out with, offend or criticise anyone. I'm 1 of the if not the least confrontational person on here.

 
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hello Horsa.

can you unscramble this popular 1960s tune by a famous british band arguably the greatest?

emeolvod
 

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we should have quizzes music and movies where members can put up an anagram and then you
unscramble the letters in order to get the correct song or film title!

You can scramble the titles in any particular way you want, but they have to be the exact same letters.

Will it take off here ?
 

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we should have quizzes music and movies where members can put up an anagram and then you
unscramble the letters in order to get the correct song or film title!

You can scramble the titles in any particular way you want, but they have to be the exact same letters.

Will it take off here ?
I think it's a good idea. I don't know whether it would take off though. How about a music song-words game too where you post a word & people have to post either the name of a song or a video of the song itself which has the word in it?
 

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I've got 1 for you, Vince. It's a Beatles song.

BELTITE
 

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ok we'll try your idea. The word is "Every" and this was a popular 1980s tune also by a british band.
 

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lol a bit difficult to be cheerful right now as the aussies are being whipped in the cricket 5th test.
 

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thank you horsa. have not heard the three above songs for quite some years.
 

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i'll bookmark those. Am going now to see the ashes 5th test cricket. It could be an early finish for our boys i'm afraid :cry: