The Music Box

[Chris Koziarz]

O.K. Thank you very much. I disagree. I listened to the song & thought "What on earth am I listening to? Do they actually know how to sing properly?" The redeeming feature on here for me was actually the drums. I prefer Shania Twain 100 times over.

I don't mind some metallic sounds as long as it's not too loud. I know. I get your point & agree with it. I try to appreciate all types of music but I've got very sensitive hearing which means I can't really listen to music that's too loud (unless I've had 1 too many to drink & then any music sounds o.k. even pleasant). I forgot to mention when telling you what type of music I liked that I like Reggae.

Of course I understand your disgust at ZZ Top given the type of music you listen to. They are indeed ugly and they "don't know how to sing". But still they are appealing to some listeners. Not so much to me, given how ugly their lyrics are. Yet they represent this "dirty blues" genre. You don't necessarily need to "sing properly" to be good at it, in fact the more "drunken" and more "disorderly" your voice appears, the better you are at this genre. Of course I prefer different artists of this genre, who show different type of emotions.

 

[Chris Koziarz]

This is the 1st song I ever sung in a singing competition. It came out when I was 5.

Although I don't like the genre and the artist and the song, I acknowledge that the musical structure of it is interesting, with key change at the chorus. And the original one, unlike her first hit here in OZ (Locomotion - a silly imitation of Little Eva). Here, in I should be so lucky, we have non-trivial chord progression (people say it's based on Pachelbel's canon in D, although I cannot hear it - it's hard to hear it for me among the percussive noise or maybe I need better ear training) and non-trivial melody. Especially key changes are not easy. Not bad, actually very challenging for a 5y old to perform well.

 

[Chris Koziarz]

I prefer Meatloaf's "I would do anything for love", "2 out of 3 ain't bad" & "You took the words right out of my mouth" though. Do you like this Meatloaf song?

The best piece by Meatloaf I've heard so far. Thank you very much. The woman sings in one style but the man makes a very interesting mix of styles, from Elvis Presley, through Freddie and Queen, to classic rock-and-roll of 50s. And the music modulates accordingly. Everyone can find their favourite tunes paraphrased and relived with passion. Fantastic!

 

[Horsa]

The best piece by Meatloaf I've heard so far. Thank you very much. The woman sings in one style but the man makes a very interesting mix of styles, from Elvis Presley, through Freddie and Queen, to classic rock-and-roll of 50s. And the music modulates accordingly. Everyone can find their favourite tunes paraphrased and relived with passion. Fantastic!

Meatloaf has sung with some very good female singers through the years. You're welcome. It's not my favourite Meatloaf song but it's not my worst either. My favourite is "I would do anything for love but I won't do that" & my worst is "Bat out of hell".

 

[Horsa]

Although I don't like the genre and the artist and the song, I acknowledge that the musical structure of it is interesting, with key change at the chorus. And the original one, unlike her first hit here in OZ (Locomotion - a silly imitation of Little Eva). Here, in I should be so lucky, we have non-trivial chord progression (people say it's based on Pachelbel's canon in D, although I cannot hear it - it's hard to hear it for me among the percussive noise or maybe I need better ear training) and non-trivial melody. Especially key changes are not easy. Not bad, actually very challenging for a 5y old to perform well.

I like some songs from this genre of music. I like Kylie's old songs but not her new ones. My favourite Kylie song to sing is "Gotta be certain". Talking about locomotion, my favourite locomotion is George Stephenson's Locomotion No. 1. A replica of which can be found in Beamish which is my favourite museum. (It's an open-air 1 where history literally comes to life. A lot of Catherine Cookson adaptations were filmed there or partially filmed there.) I was a bit quiet but came 3rd.

 

[Horsa]

Ha, ha! I understand you disgust at ZZ Top given the type of music you listen to. They are indeed ugly and they "don't know how to sing". But still they are appealing to some listeners. Not so much to me, given how ugly their lyrics are. Yet they represent this "dirty blues" genre. You don't necessarily need to "sing properly" to be good at it, in fact the more "drunken" and more "disorderly" your voice appears, the better you are at this genre. Of course I prefer different artists of this genre, who show different type of emotions.

Haha! I like singers who sing properly & show emotion in their voice as well as the song they're singing. I like songs with plenty of meaning to them. I like songs with good stories that are written well especially if they're written in rhyme. I do like some songs with drunken sounds to them like the 1 with the chorus "You're drunk, you're drunk! You silly old fool! You're drunk as drunk could be.", the old version of "I belong to Glasgow" sung by the old man & the Xmas songs, "Fairy-tale of New York" & "the Scottish 12 days of Xmas" where the gifts in the song are replaced by drinks & the singer sounds as if he starts sober but gets more drunk as the song goes on until his true love brings him Alka Seltzer then he sobers up.

 

[Chris Koziarz]

"the Scottish 12 days of Xmas" where the gifts in the song are replaced by drinks & the singer sounds as if he starts sober but gets more drunk as the song goes on until his true love brings him Alka Seltzer then he sobers up.

Can you share this song? I cannot find it on inet...

 

[Horsa]

Can you share this song? I cannot find it on inet...

I am going to share it now but I would have preferred to share at Xmas. I couldn't find a professional singer's version but this is it.



A happy day in Scotland is also a drink consisting of a wee heavy (strong Scottish beer/lager) & a 1/2 pint (of normal lager) & a tot of whisky. It's supposedly called that because after you drink it you have a happy day. I 1st heard this song when I was on holiday in Scotland & got explanations. I have heard Jasper Carrot's version of this since then.

I challenge you not to laugh if that's at all possible. Lol.

 

[Chris Koziarz]

I am going to share it now but I would have preferred to share at Xmas. I couldn't find a professional singer's version but this is it.



A happy day in Scotland is also a drink consisting of a wee heavy (strong Scottish beer/lager) & a 1/2 pint (of normal lager) & a tot of whisky. It's supposedly called that because after you drink it you have a happy day. I 1st heard this song when I was on holiday in Scotland & got explanations. I have heard Jasper Carrot's version of this since then.

I challenge you not to laugh if that's at all possible. Lol.

It's possible not to laugh if you don't understand Scottish accent and are so dumb that even pictures don't help you. But the latter is hardly possible. And I have a friend from Edinburgh who regularly tunes my ear, so I do understand & I had a good laugh. Thanks!

 

[Horsa]

It's possible not to laugh if you don't understand Scottish accent and are so dumb that even pictures don't help you. But the latter is hardly possible. And I have a friend from Edinburgh who regularly tunes my ear, so I do understand & I had a good laugh. Thanks!

Scottish accents are easy to understand for me. I'm glad you enjoyed it & had a good laugh. I didn't think you'd need me to explain what a black & tan was as it was 1 of the 1st alcoholic beverages I learnt about though I don't like the taste of it as it's too bitter.

 

[Horsa]

 

[Chris Koziarz]

Scottish accents are easy to understand for me. I'm glad you enjoyed it & had a good laugh. I didn't think you'd need me to explain what a black & tan was as it was 1 of the 1st alcoholic beverages I learnt about though I don't like the taste of it as it's too bitter.

No, you don't need, not at all indeed.
The picture says it all: like 1000 words and in space so small.
And my knowledge grows, as I follow wiki which also knows.

 

[Horsa]

No, you don't need, not at all indeed.
The picture says it all: like 1000 words and in space so small.
And my knowledge grows, as I follow wiki which also knows.

That is slightly different to what I was told. I was told Guinness & lager. Ha! Yes. You only have to know what each drink looks like. I love the fact that the last word of the 1st part of your sentences rhymes with the last word of the sentences. Very good!

 

[mrzz]

Genesis piece sounds "too soft" even to my taste. I assume it might also be to mrzz taste. I prefer their stronger, more metallic pieces, like Mama, or Home by The Sea.

Yep. I actually prefer still the 70's period, but Albums like 83's self titled one (from where Mama and Home by the Sea come) and "Invisible Touch" for me are simply untouchable (pardon the pun) in one category, which is to produce "quality" pop music. I mean, both albums can be enjoyed by the most radical progressive rock fan (maybe behind close doors without telling anyone, but sill) and by the most casual pop fan. I simply don't know anything that comes closer in that particular category.

And, yes, big fan of ZZ Top!

You don't necessarily need to "sing properly" to be good

Two words: Bob Dylan.

(sorry for the edition that puts your comment a bit out of context)

 

[mrzz]

@Horsa, my friend, I put here a video to provoke your conceptions about singing and (heavy) music.

First, a preamble:

The video bellow is from a second fiddle heavy metal band (technically is "power metal" actually), which have some songs I really like, but is, well, seen as too "soft" by orthodox heavy metal fans. But it will surely sound (in this song, at some passages), extremely heavy for your ears.

But since you know (and like) a lot about singing, I ask you to try to turn off your biases a bit (everyone has them, endure the heavier parts while paying attention to the vocalist. Technically, the guy is unbelievable. And he flirts a lot with what is called "dirty" singing, but pay attention to how much different things he accomplishes here, either from a technical or from a pure "interpretation" point of view. My point here is that you can really, really enlarge the "sing properly" concept:



BTW I think @Chris Koziarz will enjoy it.

 

[Horsa]

@Horsa, my friend, I put here a video to provoke your conceptions about singing and (heavy) music.

First, a preamble:

The video bellow is from a second fiddle heavy metal band (technically is "power metal" actually), which have some songs I really like, but is, well, seen as too "soft" by orthodox heavy metal fans. But it will surely sound (in this song, at some passages), extremely heavy for your ears.

But since you know (and like) a lot about singing, I ask you to try to turn off your biases a bit (everyone has them, endure the heavier parts while paying attention to the vocalist. Technically, the guy is unbelievable. And he flirts a lot with what is called "dirty" singing, but pay attention to how much different things he accomplishes here, either from a technical or from a pure "interpretation" point of view. My point here is that you can really, really enlarge the "sing properly" concept:



BTW I think @Chris Koziarz will enjoy it.

Am I allowed to have a few too many alcoholic beverages to soften the blows 1st, pal? I actually like heavy metal in 1 respect. Cast iron makes plenty of good, solid things that last for decades. Lol.

 

[tented]

Genesis piece sounds "too soft" even to my taste. I assume it might also be to mrzz taste. I prefer their stronger, more metallic pieces, like Mama, or Home by The Sea.

Do you like the Peter Gabriel-era Genesis?

 

[britbox]

I must say... I can't agree with @Chris Koziarz 's approach to good music... otherwise everybody would be listening to Mozart.

You can't break down how good a song is scientifically. Like art, it's each to their own. Some are attracted to rhythm, others to melodies, others to lyrics... the list is endless.

Some people like hard rock, others like rhythmic trance, others ballads... the list is long and distinguished. I like different music to fit different moods. One minute I'll be listening to Bach, the next some hardcore dance tune from Joey Beltram. In the middle, Phil Collins might feature, or Oasis, or the Beatles... or some kind of song that reminds me of something...

What's good? Like what you will.

 

[Horsa]

I must say... I can't agree with @Chris Koziarz 's approach to good music... otherwise everybody would be listening to Mozart.

You can't break down how good a song is scientifically. Like art, it's each to their own. Some are attracted to rhythm, others to melodies, others to lyrics... the list is endless.

Some people like hard rock, others like rhythmic trance, others ballads... the list is long and distinguished. I like different music to fit different moods. One minute I'll be listening to Bach, the next some hardcore dance tune from Joey Beltram. In the middle, Phil Collins might feature, or Oasis, or the Beatles... or some kind of song that reminds me of something...

What's good? Like what you will.

I don't mind Mozart but this piece by Rossini is my favourite piece of classical music.



I also like Beethoven. I like some rock, ballads, soul, Motown, folk, some classical, some pop, some country, some reggae, some jazz & some blues. I like songs with meaning & stories to them. I like songs written in rhyme like this 1 which is a poem as well as a song.



I like to be blown away by a fantastic voice like that of Celine Dion or Bette Midler. I like songs that remind me of something, songs I can listen & sing along to. I like some funny songs too like this 1.



Anyway, I'd best go & bust my eardrums by listening to the music Mrzz. wants me to listen to.

 

[mrzz]

otherwise everybody would be listening to Mozart

10 Mozart Pieces You've Heard but don't know the name

(at least I didn't)