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I dunno. You say the song was 1960s ? I thought for a while it was PETER, PAUL & MARY song called Stewball but had another look at your post and saw you mention it was British. Was it a folk song?
I'll give you a clue. The singer-songwriter's 1st name was Peter. The song is classified as folk/pop.
 
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Horsa, you appear to have a huge interest in music.

I want to invite you over to a friend of mine's you tube channel. He's a local DJ from adelaide - Pete Godfrey.
Every weekday at 3am local time Pete hosts the 3am theme time music hour where he puts up words theme and the listeners are then invited to ether call him or email him with a songstitle (usually no more than 3).

So lets work this thing out now. 3am adelaide = 6:30 pm your neck of the woods, right?

This is Pete's recent YT channel and you can even access each music theme playlist there (LO I see Pete's latest theme was any song that featured 'Good' in the title) - https://www.youtube.com/user/FiveAAThemeTimeMusic
Thank you very much, Vince. I'll take a look.
 

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Yes it was so long ago... I double checked: release date October 19, 1998, almost 21 years. Of course she kept singing it for couple years thereafter but not very long. I remember she had her "farewell" tour sometimes in 2005, so almost 15 years ago. Time runs quicker than we would like to...
I think we are in agreement about Cher's professionalism and the importance of her work, despite the fact that I don't like the outcome of her work while you appear to like it.


Very good choice for this moment, thanks. I could have picked the same. But you're better than me in expressing variety of emotions, through music in this case.
I just left school & started working in that year. It just makes me feel old.

I like it because I can sound the same without any electronic aids. Echo & everything. I honestly thought Cher did the same until you showed me differently.

You're welcome. I normally express my feelings in poetry or by music (though in person I normally sing the song that expresses how I feel).
 

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Is the singer-songwriter no longer with us ?
No he is not with us anymore. I'm saying that because I know the answer. I found the song using google. Then I confirmed all clues by listening to it (including the singer's accent which is indeed not brit) and the lyrics. Nice sentimental song. Simple but nice. No surprise Horsa remembers/likes it.
But I'm not going to reveal it yet, so as not to spoil it for you, vince. It's 7:30pm your time (8pm mine) so I encourage you (and everybody who cares) to look for it say until end of tonight (EAT Greenwich + 9h), because it's easily findable, even by someone like me who knew nothing about it until heard.
 

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Sometimes I watch YouTube videos of people performing covers, and recently found this. @Murat Baslamisli is our resident drum expert, so I would also be interested in his thoughts on this.

 

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Sometimes I watch YouTube videos of people performing covers, and recently found this. @Murat Baslamisli is our resident drum expert, so I would also be interested in his thoughts on this.


I'm not a drummer expert but I can say it sounds really good: perfect recreation of the drum sound & synchronisation.
The other quality I admire in drummers is their perfect feeling of tempo (equivalent of "perfect pitch" in other musicians). They can tell apart the difference between 99 vs 100 after just one bar.
 
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No he is not with us anymore. I'm saying that because I know the answer. I found the song using google. Then I confirmed all clues by listening to it (including the singer's accent which is indeed not brit) and the lyrics. Nice sentimental song. Simple but nice. No surprise Horsa remembers/likes it.
But I'm not going to reveal it yet, so as not to spoil it for you, vince. It's 7:30pm your time (8pm mine) so I encourage you (and everybody who cares) to look for it say until end of tonight (EAT Greenwich + 9h), because it's easily findable, even by someone like me who knew nothing about it until heard.

Peter Sarstedt. The song i'm not sure about unless i get onto google.

 
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Sometimes I watch YouTube videos of people performing covers, and recently found this. @Murat Baslamisli is our resident drum expert, so I would also be interested in his thoughts on this.


Keith moon is a difficult dude to emulate because of his style. He was all over the place but somehow kept it together. This dude is doing a pretty decent job . Two things I would criticize: He is too tense...he has to relax and make the groove flow more. Songs that are busy , drumming wise, you have to breath and let it flow. That comes with relaxing, not tightening up. He is tight but that smooth relaxed groove only comes with experience. Check out Bernard Purdie for example. Second, he needs to learn how to tune his drums better. He is playing on decent Sonor drums with Maple shells and that set can sound way better than that. So relax, breath, don't overplay, know your instrument inside out :)
 
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Peter Sarstedt. The song i'm not sure about unless i get onto google.
It is indeed, Peter Sarstedt.

The song is "Where do you go to, my lovely?"

The verse where the word "racehorse" was found in was:

"Your name is found in high places.
You know the Aga Khan
He bought you a race-horse for Christmas
& you kept it just for fun, for a laugh, a-ha-ha-ha"

Then there's another verse before it goes onto the chorus because this song isn't verse, chorus, verse, chorus like some.

This is it for you to listen to.

 
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No he is not with us anymore. I'm saying that because I know the answer. I found the song using google. Then I confirmed all clues by listening to it (including the singer's accent which is indeed not brit) and the lyrics. Nice sentimental song. Simple but nice. No surprise Horsa remembers/likes it.
But I'm not going to reveal it yet, so as not to spoil it for you, vince. It's 7:30pm your time (8pm mine) so I encourage you (and everybody who cares) to look for it say until end of tonight (EAT Greenwich + 9h), because it's easily findable, even by someone like me who knew nothing about it until heard.
Actually when I said he didn't sound British I meant in more ways than 1. I also meant his surname didn't sound British.

As for you saying it was simple yet again, it's more complex than your screaming & banging instruments as loud as they can so-called pieces of music. (I'm very sorry for slagging your music off yet again but you just can't stop yourself from slagging other people's music off.) He can carry a tune well. It's different. The line lengths are different lengths without long note/word-holds. It isn't a basic verse, chorus, verse, chorus arrangement like songs normally are. There are 2 verses then the chorus then 3 verses then the chorus then 2 verses & the last chorus is different as it changes from the question to answers. It also uses words that aren't even used in different songs & you'd never even have thought you could put together to make a song. It has a story behind it too.

As for you saying you were not going to reveal it yet, it's not up to you to reveal it unless you wanted a go, it's up to the people who are having a go or the person who sets the question which in this case was me so it was up to me to reveal the answer if no one else was having a go after I gave it so long say a week to see if anyone wanted a go.

By the way, googling is cheating. Some people actually like working things out for themselves or consulting their own memory banks not either being told immediately or looking things up. I know it's for fun & people enjoy it but saying something is simple is patronising unless you're trying to encourage people to have a go. Saying you found something simple is different though in moderation as no one likes a show-off. I know, no one likes people to act daft either. No one likes people who always act as if they're superior. You appeared to act as though your tastes were superior to everyone else's when they're not. That came across as patronising & arrogant as well as aggressive. I know mine aren't superior either but I didn't say or imply they were.

I prefer being told afterwards rather than looking things up because it can make for interesting conversation though I can look things up preferably in a book rather than on the internet but I prefer consulting my own memory bank much, much more as it makes me feel better about myself. I prefer people to tell me things straight off the top of their head & think much more of them if they do that as I don't wonder how much they actually know & how much they've copied off something else or the internet told them if I know they're just an internet searcher. I don't mind admitting what I don't know as no one knows everything & I prefer people to just say they don't know. I've got much more respect for them.
 
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Sometimes I watch YouTube videos of people performing covers, and recently found this. @Murat Baslamisli is our resident drum expert, so I would also be interested in his thoughts on this.


He'd have loved to have seen Edinburgh Tattoo Live 1 of the times I was there then. 1 of the Army bands played drums with flagpoles. I think it was the Swiss Army band. I think they were very good.
 

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That’s eclectic — the first time I’ve seen “On the Good Ship Lollipop” and Led Zeppelin’s “Good Times Bad Times” within two songs of each other on a playlist.
I agree. There is only 1 song I can think of with good in the title which they missed & that's a song from a musical film. It was sung by Julie Andrews & Christopher Plummer who were playing Maria & Captain Von Trapp in the Sound of Music & the song is "Something good".

 

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@Horsa, you are taking "simple" as an offense in music (and art in general), when absolutely it is not. It is quite common to have masterpieces that are astoundingly simple. But it takes a true artist to get that. For example. my favorite (or one of my favorite) line in English poetry is this one by Coleridge:

"Water, water, everywhere,
And all the boards did shrink;
Water, water, everywhere,
Nor any drop to drink.”

(BTW, Iron Maiden recorded one of the all time classics of heavy metal based on this poem.)

It is amazingly simple, but I think it is pure genius. Probably it is not a coincidence that the same guy also composed extremely intricate poems, but still... that is extremely simple.

The same is valid to music. Take Blues, for example. There are a lot of Blues songs that are extremely simple, and yet I find them fantastic (music has the interpretation dimension to it, but still). On the other hand, complexity is not a synonym of quality. There are a lot of jazz pieces which are extremely complex but I actually think that they are some good pieces of sh... Of course that are a lot of cases were complexity and artistic quality go hand in hand, and the result is absolutely fantastic, but this is not a "must have" condition.

So, "simple" alone is not even a judgment of quality, let alone a condescending one. It is just an observation (or at the very least an honest opinion).
 
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