Speculation on the Men's Calendar for the Next Foreseeable Future

Which tournaments do you think have the greatest chance of being cancelled/postponed?

  • Miami

    Votes: 8 72.7%
  • Marrakesh

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Houston

    Votes: 7 63.6%
  • Monte Carlo

    Votes: 8 72.7%
  • Barcelona

    Votes: 5 45.5%
  • Hungary Open

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Estoril

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Munich

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Madrid

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • Rome

    Votes: 10 90.9%
  • Roland Garros

    Votes: 5 45.5%
  • Wimbledon

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • Tokyo Olympic Games

    Votes: 6 54.5%
  • US Open

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Davis Cup in July

    Votes: 2 18.2%

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the AntiPusher

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I misspoke. It’s not the heat but the humidity that suppresses the virus. My husband is a Harvard PhD so he knows a bit (sarcasm) about this. Passing on info I hear when he chats with his friends in the industry. Summer should provide relief.
That's was my understanding too..thanks for clarifying
 

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Well, Miami and Fort Lauderdale closing beaches and limiting hours at restaurant so no more Spring break parties:)
 

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Well, Miami and Fort Lauderdale closing beaches and limiting hours at restaurant so no more Spring break parties:)
That makes sense about the beaches.. I hope the public parks aren't closed for tennis.. although organized tennis leagues like USTA and ALTA in Atlanta has been suspended
 

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That makes sense about the beaches.. I hope the public parks aren't closed for tennis.. although organized tennis leagues like USTA and ALTA in Atlanta has been suspended

I was in a 8 week program of lessons to improve my game at a local tennis center. Only the first week is over. After that they cancelled the program for the next three weeks (and there could be more). But, they have not yet banned folks coming to public courts and playing.
 

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Relevant because a three month hiatus in tennis, not basketball, would mean no tennis until mid-June.
 
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I hate to say, but I think we're talking grass season at best. The French Open seems rather unlikely at this point, unfortunately, unless they're willing to do it without attendance, and thus reduce prize money.

Actually, imagine that: ATP players pledging to play the French Open for little or no money. Of course that would be prohibitive for all but the elite and/or wealthy players, but could be quite a statement. Vamos, Rafa!
 

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I hate to say, but I think we're talking grass season at best. The French Open seems rather unlikely at this point, unfortunately, unless they're willing to do it without attendance, and thus reduce prize money.

Actually, imagine that: ATP players pledging to play the French Open for little or no money. Of course that would be prohibitive for all but the elite and/or wealthy players, but could be quite a statement. Vamos, Rafa!
Playing without attendance doesn't seem right at all. It looks very sad watching sports like that. It will be interesting to see what will be decided for the next 2 upcoming slams.
 
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Playing without attendance doesn't seem right at all. It looks very sad watching sports like that. It will be interesting to see what will be decided for the next 2 upcoming slams.

True
But many small 250 events have tiny non-existent audiences during certain rounds.

and during early round play, some outside courts during bigger tourneys often barely have anyone

they played a challenger final last year in some kind of tennis gym where you could see nets separating courts haha
 
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I hate to say, but I think we're talking grass season at best. The French Open seems rather unlikely at this point, unfortunately, unless they're willing to do it without attendance, and thus reduce prize money.

Actually, imagine that: ATP players pledging to play the French Open for little or no money. Of course that would be prohibitive for all but the elite and/or wealthy players, but could be quite a statement. Vamos, Rafa!

Jeremy Chardy: I Don't know if I am unemployed, on paternity leave or tennis player

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“You lose money if you don't play. Many players want to talk about it. It is not our fault what happens. If a lot of tournaments are canceled, it can be difficult when you are not an employee. And for ATP points, it can be complicated too.

If it lasts, I think we are going to have to freeze the ranking otherwise it may become too unfair. If the Challengers are going on, there are also some who will take points while we can't play."
 

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Playing without attendance doesn't seem right at all. It looks very sad watching sports like that. It will be interesting to see what will be decided for the next 2 upcoming slams.

But consider it as goodwill publicity: RG invites any player who wants to come, the ATP offers free coverage for any who want to watch.
 

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Jeremy Chardy: I Don't know if I am unemployed, on paternity leave or tennis player

Includes this quote by Chardy:

“You lose money if you don't play. Many players want to talk about it. It is not our fault what happens. If a lot of tournaments are canceled, it can be difficult when you are not an employee. And for ATP points, it can be complicated too.

If it lasts, I think we are going to have to freeze the ranking otherwise it may become too unfair. If the Challengers are going on, there are also some who will take points while we can't play."

I feel for him, but only to an extent - considering his almost $10 million career earnings. I know he isn't necessarily talking about himself, but there are going to be millions of Americans who live paycheck to paycheck who don't have health insurance, not to mention countless others across the globe. But our system is particularly anemic in terms of the government supporting basic necessities, at least among "developed" countries.
 

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Actually, imagine that: ATP players pledging to play the French Open for little or no money. Of course that would be prohibitive for all but the elite and/or wealthy players, but could be quite a statement. Vamos, Rafa!

If by then it is at least possible to travel, it is completely possible to have the tournament without audience. Yes, prize money could be reduced, the ATP could intervene, the top players could sacrifice their prizes, whatever. The point is, with proper planning you can do a lot.

It is an outdoor event, you could reduce the number of ball people, have them working with gloves if necessary, prepare all the structure before hand... it would be hard? Yes. It is impossible? Hell no.
 
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If by then it is at least possible to travel, it is completely possible to have the tournament without audience. Yes, prize money could be reduced, the ATP could intervene, the top players could sacrifice their prizes, whatever. The point is, with proper planning you can do a lot.

It is an outdoor event, you could reduce the number of ball people, have them working with gloves if necessary, prepare all the structure before hand... it would be hard? Yes. It is impossible? Hell no.
It's really going to depend on where France is in terms of "flattening the curve." Yesterday 368 people died in Italy in one 24-hour period. There would have to be a significant diminishing of cases in much of Europe, I should think, for them to hold a big tournament. That said, I'd be for them holding it with no spectators, if that was the only option. Impossible to know where we'll be with all of this in 2 months, though. I can't keep up day to day.
 
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It's really going to depend on where France is in terms of "flattening the curve." Yesterday 368 people died in Italy in one 24-hour period. There would have to be a significant diminishing of cases in much of Europe, I should think, for them to hold a big tournament. That said, I'd be for them holding it with no spectators, if that was the only option. Impossible to know where we'll be with all of this in 2 months, though. I can't keep up day to day.

If we can read something into China's numbers, then in two months it could be past peak in central Europe. Also (and I have no time to detail it here), but for family interests I am studying the correlation with temperature and it seems to be quite strong (and, yes, I know, there are a lot of other factors playing at the same time). So I really think situation will get better with warmer temperatures (over there in the north, here in the south I am trying to convince family members to spend the incoming winter in the northern part of Brazil).

Disclaimer: Even if my conclusions are rational and I come from an academic background, I:

1) Don't have access to reliable and up-to-date data;
2) Don't have the time and the resources to stress test my conclusions;
3) Don't have training in medical sciences and/or biology .

All that is to stress that whatever I write, is a personal GUESS.
 

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china deny that those "cultural" detention prisons exist..

full of over 1m muslims being forced into not being muslims.

so do we really believe that china have the virus under control at the moment ?. :thinking-face:
 
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china deny that those "cultural" detention prisons exist full of over 1m muslims being forced into not being muslims.

so do we really believe that china have the virus under control at the moment ?. :thinking-face:
I do think this is a fair point. I'm not taking what China says on face value, in terms of their having it under control. Also, @mrzz, and to others: everyone is hoping that COVID-19 is sensitive to heat or humidity, but there is no evidence to assure us of that yet, I don't think.