Speculation on the Men's Calendar for the Next Foreseeable Future

[isabelle]

FFT announced RG 'll be played in Sept/Oct, hope it's true

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

ATP Citi Open in D.C. cancelled due to travel restrictions and COVID-19 trend,event was scheduled to begin August 14.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

ATP Citi Open in D.C. cancelled due to travel restrictions and COVID-19 trend,event was scheduled to begin August 14.

With the way COVID-19 is currently out of control in the USA even the U.S. Open is a little bit doubtful. It’s no wonder Nadal was already practising on clay, he’s not only talented and sexy but also one of the smartest human beings ever.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

The ATP announced four of its events of the 2020 China tournament swing has been confirmed cancelled late on Thursday night.After the ATP spent several weeks trying to negotiate a workable solution.Shanghai Masters,China Open in Beijing,Chengdu Open and Zhuhai Championships have been cancelled.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Defending Champions,Medvedev and Keys Lead 2020 Western and Southern Open Singles Fields.

Defending Champions Keys, Medvedev Lead 2020 Western & Southern Open Singles Fields - Tennis Panorama

Defending Champions Keys, Medvedev Lead 2020 Western & Southern Open Singles Fields CINCINNATI (JULY 29, 2020) – Ten former champions headline the players on the initial singles entry lists for the 2020 Western & Southern Open that will be held Aug. 20-28 at the USTA Billie Jean King...

www.tennispanorama.com

 

[Jelenafan]

Djokovic, Nadal slated for Western & Southern

While the appearance of Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal on the acceptance list does not guarantee that they will end up competing in the Western & Southern Open, the list does suggest that 16 of the ATP's top 20 players are prepared to participate.

www.espn.com

I'm puzzled if Nadal actually has any intentions to come to the States, or if this is a preemptive "just in case" entry...

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

they are auto entries, it is a compulsory atp masters event.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Djokovic, Nadal slated for Western & Southern

While the appearance of Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal on the acceptance list does not guarantee that they will end up competing in the Western & Southern Open, the list does suggest that 16 of the ATP's top 20 players are prepared to participate.

www.espn.com

I'm puzzled if Nadal actually has any intentions to come to the States, or if this is a preemptive "just in case" entry...

Yes,it does allow any players to withdraw before the due date of entry.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Update for Cincinnati

Out Nick Kyrgios
In Kyle Edmund.

 

[Andy22]

we seen how much smarter Nadal is from rest of tour, for not playing lame Arida tour hes Already won five hard court opens[ 4 us opens 1AO] nothing left to prove Roland Garros way better and safer for the number 20 record.

 

[Moxie]

Yes,it does allow any players to withdraw before the due date of entry.

Some commie laid it out pretty well: You come to the US and play 1 MS and 1 Major, or you go to Europe and you play 2 MS and 1 Major. I have heard no ruling on the quarantine regulations when the players who DO play in NY try to go back to Europe to continue play. But it's going to be hard to play in both options.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Some commie laid it out pretty well: You come to the US and play 1 MS and 1 Major, or you go to Europe and you play 2 MS and 1 Major. I have heard no ruling on the quarantine regulations when the players who DO play in NY try to go back to Europe to continue play. But it's going to be hard to play in both options.

There are reports that there are clusters of COVID-19 in Italy and France.though the numbers are vague,some parts of Italy you have to quarantine for 14 days.Rome tournament for example will not have fans,though Roland Garos wants to go ahead with some fans,practising 'social distancing'.I think we will have to wait to see if these tournaments require quarantine arrangements.Personally speaking I would prefer to go into quarantine for the 14 days.I agree with your thoughts it will be too risky to play in NYC and then travel to Europe,Australians for example will have to quarantine for 14 days if they travel overseas when they come back to their respective states in Australia.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Christopher Clarey on Twitter,

Mutua Madrid Open in doubt again.El Confidencial reports Madrid government has sent letter recommending against playing it in its new September dates due to uncertainty and rising coronavirus cases.
Madrid Open,owned by Ion Tiriac,considering its options but odds against it.
"We will work closely with them to see what the safest way can be to organize the event" he writes of Madrid Public officials.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

I think players should enter all the tournaments they would like to play because by the end of the season maybe many of them will be cancelled anyways. For example someone might skip the US open In order to focus on Roland Garros but what if by then the situation in France gets worse and RG gets cancelled? Then you end up missing both slams. The same for the hardcourt season versus the clay court season. I’d say players should try to play everything that is of importance to them.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I think players should enter all the tournaments they would like to play because by the end of the season maybe many of them will be cancelled anyways. For example someone might skip the US open In order to focus on Roland Garros but what if by then the situation in France gets worse and RG gets cancelled? Then you end up missing both slams. The same for the hardcourt season versus the clay court season. I’d say players should try to play everything that is of importance to them.

Quite frankly the way things are going with this virus,many countries are experiencing 'second waves' including Australia,in Victoria,which is in dire straits,many European cities are now having 'second waves',USA is also a country where they cannot keep the virus at bay,I would cancel the rest of the Tour for both ATP and WTA,until the countries can get a hold on this virus.

 

[Vince Evert]

Quite frankly the way things are going with this virus,many countries are experiencing 'second waves' including Australia,in Victoria,which is in dire straits,many European cities are now having 'second waves',USA is also a country where they cannot keep the virus at bay,I would cancel the rest of the Tour for both ATP and WTA,until the countries can get a hold on this virus.

There is a second wave - and until vaccines are found and proven to be effective, there may well be a third and fourth too as it mutates each time, in 2021, let's not kid ourselves about this. Therefore as it stands, they should drop the US Open in New York as it's JUST NOT SAFE to have it there this year. Couldn't they contest this at some other state or city that is considered the safest?

 

[Moxie]

Quite frankly the way things are going with this virus,many countries are experiencing 'second waves' including Australia,in Victoria,which is in dire straits,many European cities are now having 'second waves',USA is also a country where they cannot keep the virus at bay,I would cancel the rest of the Tour for both ATP and WTA,until the countries can get a hold on this virus.

I don't completely agree with this. I worry that we will lose some players who stay in the game with less margin, financially. There are ways to go back to work carefully, and tennis is trying to figure them out. I think grouping Gulf & Western with the USO at the BJK tennis center is one. You say that the US can't keep the virus at bay, but specifically in NY we are doing a good job, and that's where those tournaments will/would be played. Maybe Paris needs to do the same: host Madrid and Rome, then the French Open, and keep everyone in the same place, same bubble. I do think they should quarantine players who choose to come to the US before allowing them to play in the "European bubble."

The obvious problem with tennis is players flying all over the world. What if ATP and WTA create bubbles of 250s and 500s in geographic locations, to keep players playing, but not traveling so much? Create a bubble in, say, Melbourne Park, and play a bunch of tournaments there for the Australians for the rest of the year. Keep BJK tennis center as a place to let No. Am. players play...there are roofs. Pick a few venues in Europe and create working bubbles. Do you know what I mean?

I'm not so much worried about the GOAT race and the elite players who are trying to add to their hardware. That will come in time, and folks like Nadal and Djokovic and Thiem can live well without playing. What I'm talking about is the journeyman players who can't stay in the game if they stay out until there's a vaccine.

In my industry (film,) we've gone back to work here in NY, and things have changed markedly. We have COVID safety officers on set (trained,) we practice distancing, we wear masks all day. We get screened every day, and we get tested before jobs. I've had my temperature taken as often as 4 times in one day. (I've gotten very accurate at guessing it...new COVID game.) And besides what we mandate, the crews take a great deal of personal responsibility. If everyone is in, we can work and stay as safe as possible. I know that may mean until the next wave hits, and there is a lot of agreement that it will. But until then, I think there are ways to work safely, and we just can't all sit at home for more than a year. That includes tennis players...if the powers that be can figure out the smartest way to keep the tours running, even at half-speed, and maybe it's a lost year in terms of points, etc. But most players need to play to keep themselves afloat.

 

[Andy22]

really if they care about the players, the whole tour should be cancelled for this year, never know then a second wave going to hit in any state or country, but I glad the USTA and french tennis are being greedy so we can see some tennis and Nadal get A record 20 major title.

 

[Moxie]

There is a second wave - and until vaccines are found and proven to be effective, there may well be a third and fourth too as it mutates each time, in 2021, let's not kid ourselves about this. Therefore as it stands, they should drop the US Open in New York as it's JUST NOT SAFE to have it there this year. Couldn't they contest this at some other state or city that is considered the safest?

I just addressed this above, but I would ask you to look at current numbers. Just because NY took a big hit in the beginning, we're in a good place right now. The 2nd wave hasn't come yet. Who knows when it does? There is always a possibility to cancel, if things get bad in the next couple of weeks, but NY is in a better place than most in the US.

 

[Andy22]

I don't completely agree with this. I worry that we will lose some players who stay in the game with less margin, financially. There are ways to go back to work carefully, and tennis is trying to figure them out. I think grouping Gulf & Western with the USO at the BJK tennis center is one. You say that the US can't keep the virus at bay, but specifically in NY we are doing a good job, and that's where those tournaments will/would be played. Maybe Paris needs to do the same: host Madrid and Rome, then the French Open, and keep everyone in the same place, same bubble. I do think they should quarantine players who choose to come to the US before allowing them to play in the "European bubble."

The obvious problem with tennis is players flying all over the world. What if ATP and WTA create bubbles of 250s and 500s in geographic locations, to keep players playing, but not traveling so much? Create a bubble in, say, Melbourne Park, and play a bunch of tournaments there for the Australians for the rest of the year. Keep BJK tennis center as a place to let No. Am. players play...there are roofs. Pick a few venues in Europe and create working bubbles. Do you know what I mean?

I'm not so much worried about the GOAT race and the elite players who are trying to add to their hardware. That will come in time, and folks like Nadal and Djokovic and Thiem can live well without playing. What I'm talking about is the journeyman players who can't stay in the game if they stay out until there's a vaccine.

In my industry (film,) we've gone back to work here in NY, and things have changed markedly. We have COVID safety officers on set (trained,) we practice distancing, we wear masks all day. We get screened every day, and we get tested before jobs. I've had my temperature taken as often as 4 times in one day. (I've gotten very accurate at guessing it...new COVID game.) And besides what we mandate, the crews take a great deal of personal responsibility. If everyone is in, we can work and stay as safe as possible. I know that may mean until the next wave hits, and there is a lot of agreement that it will. But until then, I think there are ways to work safely, and we just can't all sit at home for more than a year. That includes tennis players...if the powers that be can figure out the smartest way to keep the tours running, even at half-speed, and maybe it's a lost year in terms of points, etc. But most players need to play to keep themselves afloat.

sorry but NY can not keep the covid 19 out a second wave will hit same stage it is the worst hit country after All we hope its not at us open for the players, no there is safe NO matter that you say.