Serious PC thread

[Kieran]

great speech! The problem with the woke brigade is in their desire to promote minorities, they risk irrevocably causing division and therefore harming those minorities. Have some faith in humanity. Educate people properly. The more educated you are the less likely you are to be prejudiced because you're exposed to different situations. Sadly these folks in their preoccupation are forgetting about the education component

That kid is a prince.

But also, this isn't the first time we hear of students and teachers in American schools and colleges having to pretend to agree with the intolerant bigotry of the left, in order to advance. And that's a terrible indictment of these so-called places of learning. It's frustrating to hear that to say "All Lives Matter" is political, but to support the faddish causes of the Left is to support "human rights" and to question this is "outlandish and offensive."

How is it "outlandish and offensive?" I think it's because that's how they deter questions, by making the person asking the question to feel that their question itself proves them to be a bad person. It's a twist on the old "wear a mask or you're killing granny" spiel. Or the bug eyed activist who told Senator Hawley that his questions were violence against trans people.

When you can't actually answer the question, then obviously you attack the person asking the question. But they do this without realising that when they attack the questioner, they only show the rest of us that they don't actually have any answers...

 

[Kieran]

You know, the White House only had to do one thing with their awards for International Women of Courage 2023, and typically, they fecked that up. They only had to give the awards to women. And they did with ten of the awards, and they gave the 11th award to a man, who they've decided qualifies.

If they believe that a man qualifies for an award for women of courage, then how are they fit to govern?

The recipients name is Alba Rueda from Argentina, and listed among his achievements is that 'she actively campaigned to change the name of the National Women’s Conference to the “Plurinational Conference of Women and Lesbian, Cross-Dresser, Transgender, Bisexual, Intersex and Non-Binary Persons” to include diverse, dissident, and racialized identities.'

Trying saying the name of that conference is difficult, without pausing for breath. From memory, "lesbians" are women, so why they listed separately is unknown to me. Women nowadays can't have their own conference - they get to be listed among a bunch of radical leftist talking points and shady categories.

Rueda's 'hope is to establish an LGBTQI+ foreign policy agenda and mainstream it into the various negotiation fora.' I'm not too sure what this means, except it seems to say that any nation negotiating with Rueda (or her country) under this policy must promise to advance a trans agenda in their own country, in order to have a chance of succeeding in the negotiation.

From the US Department of State:

2023 International Women of Courage Award Recipients Announced​

 

[Federberg]

You know, the White House only had to do one thing with their awards for International Women of Courage 2023, and typically, they fecked that up. They only had to give the awards to women. And they did with ten of the awards, and they gave the 11th award to a man, who they've decided qualifies.

If they believe that a man qualifies for an award for women of courage, then how are they fit to govern?

The recipients name is Alba Rueda from Argentina, and listed among his achievements is that 'she actively campaigned to change the name of the National Women’s Conference to the “Plurinational Conference of Women and Lesbian, Cross-Dresser, Transgender, Bisexual, Intersex and Non-Binary Persons” to include diverse, dissident, and racialized identities.'

Trying saying the name of that conference is difficult, without pausing for breath. From memory, "lesbians" are women, so why they listed separately is unknown to me. Women nowadays can't have their own conference - they get to be listed among a bunch of radical leftist talking points and shady categories.

Rueda's 'hope is to establish an LGBTQI+ foreign policy agenda and mainstream it into the various negotiation fora.' I'm not too sure what this means, except it seems to say that any nation negotiating with Rueda (or her country) under this policy must promise to advance a trans agenda in their own country, in order to have a chance of succeeding in the negotiation.

From the US Department of State:

2023 International Women of Courage Award Recipients Announced​

good luck with that in Africa!

 

[mrzz]

From memory, "lesbians" are women,

Best sentence of 2023 by a long shot.

 

[El Dude]

"lesbians" are women,

Yes, but if they won't suck a female penis, they're transphobic.

 

[Kieran]

I suppose the “offensive” part is that anyone thinks SNL is actually funny. It isn’t, from the sketches I’ve seen. But what was interesting to me here was how they thought an Oirish stereotype was funny but they’re the same people who’d hate any a negative stereotype about [insert minority], even in the name of ‘comedy.’

But this isn’t funny. It’s not comedy. It could be done well and still be funny…


Saturday Night Live Irish Oscar skit deemed 'offensive'
https://www.rte.ie/news/us/2023/0312/1361792-skit-saturday-night-live/

 

[Kieran]

This is the woman who made a film about African slave traders and thought it’d be a six inch putt for an Oscar. “Hey, give me an AWARD, bigot, for my film about the heroic black people who sold other black people to white people as SLAVES!”

‘I’ll never get over it’: The Woman King director Gina Prince-Bythewood on ‘egregious’ Oscars snub​

It says a lot about the awards industry though, that people think they should get an award just for being black, female, trans, whatever…

 

[Federberg]

ok, now deep breath folks... I'm posting this here because it's funny. I'm not drawing any conclusions from this. Neither should you

 

[Kieran]

ok, now deep breath folks... I'm posting this here because it's funny. I'm not drawing any conclusions from this. Neither should you

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They had an all female investment committee because…WOT?!

Why would anybody use a bank that makes this stuff more important than banking?

 

[Federberg]

They had an all female investment committee because…WOT?!

Why would anybody use a bank that makes this stuff more important than banking?

I would hope that they. were employed for their capabilities. As a former investment banker I can say with conviction that. there are some outstanding senior female staffers. It's still delicious though... if it's true. I'm not certain it is. But someone sent it to me. If it's real then I'm going to shove it in the face of any SJW that talks to me about the patriarchy! Just because... not because this is proof of anything

 

[Kieran]

I would hope that they. were employed for their capabilities. As a former investment banker I can say with conviction that. there are some outstanding senior female staffers. It's still delicious though... if it's true. I'm not certain it is. But someone sent it to me. If it's real then I'm going to shove it in the face of any SJW that talks to me about the patriarchy! Just because... not because this is proof of anything

I agree, I’d have to hope they got the job on merit. If not, could this be a case of corruption of some other sort, driving the bank to the wall?

 

[Federberg]

I agree, I’d have to hope they got the job on merit. If not, could this be a case of corruption of some other sort, driving the bank to the wall?

no I don't think so. I haven't checked the names, but apparently the CFO of SVB is the same as the last one at Lehman. Make of that what you will, but that's probably more pertinent that this, if this all female cast is even true

 

[Kieran]

no I don't think so. I haven't checked the names, but apparently the CFO of SVB is the same as the last one at Lehman. Make of that what you will, but that's probably more pertinent that this, if this all female cast is even true

His name isn’t Jonah, is it?

 

[Federberg]

His name isn’t Jonah, is it?

lol! Joseph Gentile I think

 

[Federberg]

this grooming thing is a big deal in the UK. There've been massive grooming rings broken up in the last few years. It was politically difficult at first because the miscreants are of South Asian origin. But there are a lot of women who lie about this type of thing. This is good news for justice... Innocent men will be safer, and liars will be less inclined to exploit the free pass a lot of women get. Making it easier to identify the real cases...

 

[Kieran]

this grooming thing is a big deal in the UK. There've been massive grooming rings broken up in the last few years. It was politically difficult at first because the miscreants are of South Asian origin. But there are a lot of women who lie about this type of thing. This is good news for justice... Innocent men will be safer, and liars will be less inclined to exploit the free pass a lot of women get. Making it easier to identify the real cases...

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That has to be a psychological condition, I don't know what it is, but a form of Munchausen or something like it. Impersonation. Very disturbing and of course, this case will only encourage people who deny that the grooming gangs even exist..

 

[Kieran]

This is both hilarious and prophetic: "Bar staff required in West Country pub, can be either male or female - must have big boobs!"

As someone says in the comments, "This was not a sketch... This was a documentary."

 

[Federberg]

A friend of mine sent me this article. Very interesting read. Notice any interesting similarities with a certain type perspective we see today? Let's not get hyperbolic and project out to the worst of nazism. But just in the details and methods... disturbing!

Hitler the Progressive | Peter Hitchens

The left wrongly associates the Hitler period with the political and moral right.

www.firstthings.com

 

[Kieran]

A friend of mine sent me this article. Very interesting read. Notice any interesting similarities with a certain type perspective we see today? Let's not get hyperbolic and project out to the worst of nazism. But just in the details and methods... disturbing!

Hitler the Progressive | Peter Hitchens

The left wrongly associates the Hitler period with the political and moral right.

www.firstthings.com

That’s a very interesting read. I’d never heard of anything that resembled conservative ideas in the Nazis, I had heard them described as collectivist in policy, which is why they were a National Socialist party, but tyrants always ally an “ideal” with their name, to fool the unwary, so it’s hard to discern whether this was sincere…

 

[Kieran]

Black History Month is an American thing, and I tend not to speak much about American politics because it’s not my country, not my say. I don’t have a vote and I don’t give a…hoot…either, except of course when the worst ideas of American tribal and cultural conflicts get picked up abroad and affect our way of life.

I like these two blokes, I find them to be essential listening, mainly because they’re the opposite to tribal: they question their own tribes. And one is a conservative and the other a liberal, but their shared tribe is to be black Americans, and their conversations are always deep, sound, sane and well conceived.



The reason I’m posting this here is because in little old Ireland, we now have our own Black History Month. I’m not opposed to it, people can celebrate what they want to celebrate, but I’m curious about it, and I wonder about the imitative qualities it has, in the larger sense of trying to force an American-centric black experience into the frame of other countries histories.

For example, in county Cork in 2020, the Cork Migrant Centre organised a webinar ‘in the wake of the murder of George Floyd, bringing the realities of racism and discrimination around the world and in Ireland to the forefront.’

There is nothing in Ireland remotely like the George Floyd incident, but the organisers hoped at the time that the event ‘is a stepping stone to greater collaboration and education on the issue of racism in Ireland, and to putting a stop to such racism.’

It’s noble to put a stop to racism - of any colour or ethnicity against another - but how are we to compare our experiences with the experiences of blacks in America? And is it appropriate to even try to? Or if there a Trojan horse thing going here, to ensure that even in places where Whitey is the indigenous native, that he should be reminded that he’s got a problem with racism?

Black people make up 1.1% of the Irish population. Racism against them is not acceptable, and generally I think Irish people have handled the overwhelming influx of foreign souls into our country in the last quarter of a century with good humour, and good manners. And there have been black peoples in Ireland for a long time. I tend to agree with the two gentlemen in the video, regarding black history month, and probably more especially in America. Over here, we tend to celebrate our Oirishness tomorrow on Paddy’s Day. Someday that’ll be considered racist and exclusionary, because of something that happened in America, if trends continue..