This is happening folks. The push for normalisation. Can any progressives give their opinions on this? Please no one attack them. I just want to understand...
James Cantor: One cannot choose to not be a pedophile, but one can choose to not be a child molester.
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While I agree with your "push for normalisation" round up, following up the links you can find a bit more context. Bottom line is the CNN article draws the line between a pedophile and a child molester -- and this is an objective fact, there is a giant difference between having the impulses and committing the act. Ultra bat shit crazy self entitled liberals can debate the term pedophile. You cannot bullshit around the term "child molester". There is no context, no nuances. It is someone that molests a child, period. So, every time some son of a camel comes with "minor attracted person" shit, people should come back with "child molester". It is fact, not judgement.
This distinction is, or at least could be, important for the real world because if society finds a way to prevent people that have the urge from actually molesting a child, wow, that would be fantastic. A beautiful "gol" to team civilization. This is a difficult, delicate topic that would request a lot of lucidity and intelligence from people to deal with it. In other words, my hopes that this will ever be decently tackled are exactly zero. But it is definitely a valid point to discuss.
But there is a catch, that the very few well intended and intelligent self entitled liberals out there always miss. Such debate gives a perfect excuse to an ordinary pervert to tell a sad story and hide behind it. AND THIS PEOPLE EXIST IN HUGE NUMBERS.
I remember like it was yesterday one conversation I had when I was around 16 or 17 years old:
I was sitting in a bar, two or three friends of mine there, my age. Also two older guys, it felt like they were fifty at the time, to my teenage eyes, but now I would say they were around thirty at most. The big black beards made an impression on me. Then a beautiful very young girl passes us by. She was beautiful, yes, but her beauty was still quite a childish beauty: she was probably around twelve years old, body still developing. That "child" appearance was still there, mixed with the teenager aspects, but undeniably there. Not a single soul in the universe would fail to acknowledge that she was still a child. I only properly noticed her, in fact, after the following:
One of the older guys says (and I will be literal, sensible people please jump the next paragraph):
-- I would love to lick that little pussy. (Portuguese word was "bucetinha", which sounds way worst than little pussy, but I don´t know an English word for it).
Then he made a sucking sound with his lips and tongue. I was looking straight into his face. The guy meant that. He meant *precisely* that.
Everyone, including the other older guy, stood in shock, and in silence. After, say, some five seconds, the guy says "yeah, I like it, I won't deny. C'mon, you like it too".
If that guy ever molested a child (what, to be fair, is something I don´t know, and may well have never happened), I guarantee you: he deserves no pity, he is the very definition of a pervert who puts his own pleasure way above whatever harm he can do to others. And this guy, *exactly* this guy, would very happily use the "it is stronger than me" defense.
So, all in all, at this point in time this is simply not a productive discussion. Unless you find a very intelligent way to tackle it (not found yet), if you open this door, a lot of children will feel -- very literally -- the results.
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