Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal fans slammed by Alex Corretja for attitude towards rivalry

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Nadal is clean so if course he sometimes needs 30 seconds between points. He is not on PEDs like other players sometimes near 40 yrs old who can take only 10 seconds between points even in the 5th set after 5 hours of play. :rolleyes: I’d rather watch a clean player who takes a few more seconds to recuperate than a cheater who takes 10 seconds between points. :bye:

You got proof of that? What's that I hear? No? Yeah thought so. Now go fuck yourself.
 
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You got proof of that? What's that I hear? No? Yeah thought so. Now go fuck yourself.

The proof is in your reaction... If it wasn't true you wouldn't have been so rattled... :popcorn
 

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You got proof of that? What's that I hear? No? Yeah thought so. Now go fuck yourself.
Dude, you're the one that requires the proof, and you have none, so don't be such a bully when it's you who is pushing an agenda based on a slander just because you want to believe it so bad. I notice you went silent on Roger's MTOs. Only goes one-way, this egregious gamesmanship?
 

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Dude, you're the one that requires the proof, and you have none, so don't be such a bully when it's you who is pushing an agenda based on a slander just because you want to believe it so bad. I notice you went silent on Roger's MTOs. Only goes one-way, this egregious gamesmanship?

How the hell do I need proof? You realize a Nadal fan accusing Federer of doping is utterly laughable I hope and what the hell is with people here accusing people of going silent if they don't answer a post within 5 minutes?! I was in the gym, then eating and now I'm in bed.

Your post about Federer's MTO against Dimitrov was a joke anyway. Did you even watch the match? All the commentators and multiple websites have correctly pointed out he was a mere shell of himself after that MTO, ie clearly injured. Have you read recent news where he's said his back was sore over 10 days later?!

How in the name of hell does that compare to Nadal running around like a gazelle before and after the one against Petzschner who said he felt Nadal could play another 3 sets?!

Stevie Wonder says hi. He'd see an injury in a tennis player better than you would.
 

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How the hell do I need proof? You realize a Nadal fan accusing Federer of doping is utterly laughable I hope and what the hell is with people here accusing people of going silent if they don't answer a post within 5 minutes?! I was in the gym, then eating and now I'm in bed.

Your post about Federer's MTO against Dimitrov was a joke anyway. Did you even watch the match? All the commentators and multiple websites have correctly pointed out he was a mere shell of himself after that MTO, ie clearly injured. Have you read recent news where he's said his back was sore over 10 days later?!

How in the name of hell does that compare to Nadal running around like a gazelle before and after the one against Petzschner who said he felt Nadal could play another 3 sets?!

Stevie Wonder says hi. He'd see an injury in a tennis player better than you would.
There is so much of your personal bias in here that it's hard to know where to start. There is nothing laughable or ironic about a Nadal fan accusing Federer of doping. It's no more laughable or ironic, and no less slanderous and baseless, than when you and other Fed fans accuse Rafa. It has always been, however, very amusing how utterly lacking of any skepticism you and Darth were when Roger came back from his long lay-off and all but immediately won his first major in almost 5 years. At 35. Beating Rafa in 5, after surviving 2 other 5 setters along they way. During which he had some well-timed MTOs of his own. Got out of tough spots with MTOs and won the tournament, same as your complaint about Nadal at Wimbledon in '10.

A basic fallacy of your point about Roger and the MTO at the USO recently is that your outrage is because he was injured. See, the problem is that you assume that when Rafa has taken these MTO's that he isn't, or isn't suffering something. For you, when Rafa does something, you immediately not only question the motives, you have no doubt that it's completely fake and opportunistic. If Roger does something, he must have had good reason, because, hey, he's Roger. See how naive and biased that comes across? I never said that Roger didn't have reason to take that MTO, or all of the other ones. The point is when they are taken...if you have a problem with one, you should have a problem with them all. If you believe Roger's are legit, esp. given his generally good health across the years, than you should give a benefit of the doubt to Rafa's concerns when he calls the trainer, given how he has had so many injuries over the years, and that he has an on-going knee tendinitis issue, as well as a congenital foot problem. The chances that Nadal actually had something to be concerned about are far greater than Federer having same, esp. until the last few years.

Have a good night.
 

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Look, Nadalfan2013 and monfed are interacting - quick, someone open the airlock and jettison them both out into space!!!
 

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Look, Nadalfan2013 and monfed are interacting - quick, someone open the airlock and jettison them both out into space!!!
Or you could think of it as a Kumbayaa moment. You could also post more, and then it wouldn't be all just the lunatics running the asylum. :D
 
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Or you could think of it as a Kumbayaa moment. You could also post more, and then it wouldn't be all just the lunatics running the asylum. :D

The only lunatic is Alex Corretja…:facepalm: When all is said and done, Rafael "Rafa" Nadal Parera will be remembered as bigger than tennis and as the greatest sportsman in the history of the universe! :clap::yes: A nobody like Corretja should not even be allowed to speak to Nadal fans, let alone tell them what to do! :negative: :nono: On that note, have a nice day everyone :smooch: :bye:
 

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There is so much of your personal bias in here that it's hard to know where to start. There is nothing laughable or ironic about a Nadal fan accusing Federer of doping. It's no more laughable or ironic, and no less slanderous and baseless, than when you and other Fed fans accuse Rafa. It has always been, however, very amusing how utterly lacking of any skepticism you and Darth were when Roger came back from his long lay-off and all but immediately won his first major in almost 5 years. At 35. Beating Rafa in 5, after surviving 2 other 5 setters along they way. During which he had some well-timed MTOs of his own. Got out of tough spots with MTOs and won the tournament, same as your complaint about Nadal at Wimbledon in '10.

A basic fallacy of your point about Roger and the MTO at the USO recently is that your outrage is because he was injured. See, the problem is that you assume that when Rafa has taken these MTO's that he isn't, or isn't suffering something. For you, when Rafa does something, you immediately not only question the motives, you have no doubt that it's completely fake and opportunistic. If Roger does something, he must have had good reason, because, hey, he's Roger. See how naive and biased that comes across? I never said that Roger didn't have reason to take that MTO, or all of the other ones. The point is when they are taken...if you have a problem with one, you should have a problem with them all. If you believe Roger's are legit, esp. given his generally good health across the years, than you should give a benefit of the doubt to Rafa's concerns when he calls the trainer, given how he has had so many injuries over the years, and that he has an on-going knee tendinitis issue, as well as a congenital foot problem. The chances that Nadal actually had something to be concerned about are far greater than Federer having same, esp. until the last few years.

Have a good night.

I already posted in detail recently about those 5 set matches Nadal fans keep harping on about from the AO 2017 even posting the length of the 5 set maches just to point out they were actually shorter than the advantage 3 hour Nadal match and I'm not doing it again cos you all forget and keep going on and on about those 3 non taxing 5 setters as if they were. He lost set 3 by 6-1 against Wawrinka so a same person could see he was effected. The ones Nadal took against Petzschner in 2010 he was running like a gazelle before and after. He was down 2 sets to 1 and getting killed out there. There is no comparison.
 

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No it's not embarrassing. What's embarrassing is having the nerve to do this to break the opponent's rhythm while he was being soundly thumped in set 1. It wasn't a medical timeout, no, but it was an unsporting bucket of shit which he is too. He knew he had to do something to salvage that first set cos his tennis wasn't enough. That's why so many people worldwide can't stand him.

The only people who can stand him are those with no moral compass or a broken one.
 

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What are you talking about? He did, to check his ankle or something in the first set when he was getting his ass beat.

These dulltards really are clueless. It's embarrassing.

Again, idiot, just Google. Nadal never took a medical timeout in that match. That's what I'm talking about, and it's a fact.
 

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No it's not embarrassing. What's embarrassing is having the nerve to do this to break the opponent's rhythm while he was being soundly thumped in set 1. It wasn't a medical timeout, no, but it was an unsporting bucket of shit which he is too. He knew he had to do something to salvage that first set cos his tennis wasn't enough. That's why so many people worldwide can't stand him.

How much extra time do you think changing bandages actually takes compared to a normal changeover? Actually, I'll tell you what, I'll go back and re-watch that and time it. I'll come back with the results later today.

Also "That's why so many people worldwide can't stand" one of the most popular and beloved athletes in the world is quite a take. You'd think this is more telling than a bunch of salty Fed fans on a message board.
 

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And for fuck's sake someone please teach Front about the concept of burden of proof.
 

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Again, idiot, just Google. Nadal never took a medical timeout in that match. That's what I'm talking about, and it's a fact.

Ok genius, he didn't take an MTO but he did stall play when he was getting his ass kicked. So my point stands.

Again the larger point being he stalls play when he's getting whooped which you either fail to grasp or don't wanna accept that your idol is a dirty cheater.

I wouldn't be surprised if the critter is doping too. Such a morally bankrupt person can go to any extent to win.
 

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As to the time, you are incorrect. There is a shot clock, and Nadal does get warned when he's long, and he's been docked a serve before. Any notion of 40 seconds seems outrageous to me. Do you have your stopwatch on him?

As to only taking a MTO when he's trailing, also incorrect. He took a MTO after winning the first set over JMDP in Wimbledon '11. That I remember, so there must be others.

There are PLENTY of videos, photos of Nadal cheating, Google is your friend.
 

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And for fuck's sake someone please teach Front about the concept of burden of proof.

Seeing as none of us here have any possibility of testing either guy on a frequent basis or retroactively testing samples that would be impossible. The Spanish government have a lot to answer for with the Fuentes debacle though since tennis players' blood was in the bags ordered to be destroyed. You think they all dope anyway so no proof is needed.