Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal fans slammed by Alex Corretja for attitude towards rivalry

[brokenshoelace]

What Nadal plays isn't good tennis. Infact it's the most negative style of tennis ever seen.

Right on cue...

 

[rafanoy1992]

I have to say, these days, the Fedal wars, at least around these parts, are really on Roger fans. I've always said Nadal fans are the worst, by and large, but lately things have been out of control with Fed fans around here. Between Nadal closing in on him and Roger's blown match points the bitterness has dominated a little too much. Seriously, how many posts about PED accusations, surface speeds and just all around bashing of Nadal's game have we seen this year? The last point in particular is the most glaring one as I swear it's the kind of talking points we used to hear in 2006.

Darn, I hope I am not one of those included in the Nadal fans, Broken I just can not be a troll in these forums like other Nadal "fans"

 

[brokenshoelace]

Darn, I hope I am not one of those included in the Nadal fans, Broken I just can not be a troll in these forums like other Nadal "fans"

No you're one of the good guys

 

[atttomole]

Maybe less hating is the point of the whole discussion. Rivalries are common thing in sports, but if all these big3 guys don't hate on each other and respect themselves, then why are the fans hating on each other without much respect and hardly any?

I know in soccer the rival clubs usually share a very long history which is way more complex than the Fedal in last 15 years. Football fans are grown up from generation to generation believing what the club they love stands for and is also tied with the city people live in. Often within a city people root for different rival clubs, because of what those clubs historically represent due to various social/political/religious reasons. Sometimes these fedal wars remind me of football fans where majority just goes drinking after the match and the minor rival fans are left out there to fight. Do they really fight for their club or are they fighting there for some other reason? I think it's the latter.

How can we also create something like the team sports rivalries in tennis where the only history we have in Fedal is just awesome tennis for most of the time and nothing much more than that. How can fans argue over nonsenses? Fans like to drill in this idea of Nadal stalling and how slow he is like it's something huge, but it's actually not. I don't think that many tennis fans care much about this. I don't think that any of tennis players care for that except Kyrgios who just likes to make headlines. I don't think anyone will ever remember Fedal rivalry due to Nadal stalling or whatever, but rather how magical was to watch these two legends to share the court.

It is one thing to dislike somebody or something, but another is to hate. I could never watch a tennis match with the idea that I hate someone, even more so when it comes to the guys that are already legends of this sport.

Nadal’s antics on court are not as insignificant as you think. Players have complained about Nadal’s behavior over the years. but because nothing was done about it for so long, the behavior has been normalized. He still does it but very few people bother to talk about it because it has been normalized. His behavior is disgusting.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Nadal’s antics on court are not as insignificant as you think. Players have complained about Nadal’s behavior over the years. but because nothing was done about it for so long, the behavior has been normalized. He still does it but very few people bother to talk about it because it has been normalized. His behavior is disgusting.

What do you think of Kyrgios' behavior since you're so easily disgusted?

 

[atttomole]

What do you think of Kyrgios' behavior since you're so easily disgusted?

It is disgusting and I have said it before. I have even said that he is a clown and he could earn more money as a comedian. The thing with him is that he rarely goes that far in tournaments so most fans rarely see him. But he has been fined for his antics because he blatantly breaks the rules. With Nadal it is about bending the rules, which makes it difficult to apply them. When the serve clock came, I don’t know how many times the guy has been warned for time violations. There you can easily apply the rules. However, he can still find other ways to annoy opponents, like what he did against Federer at Wimbledon this year.

 

[atttomole]

What do you think of Kyrgios' behavior since you're so easily disgusted?

By the way, I am not easily disgusted. But Nadal’s behavior is disgusting.

 

[brokenshoelace]

By the way, I am not easily disgusted. But Nadal’s behavior is disgusting.

You're disgusted by someone taking time in between points?

 

[atttomole]

You're disgusted by someone taking time in between points?

Nadal is not just about taking time between points. You know very that it is not only about taking time between points.

 

[Andy22]

Stop being even more of an idiot than usual 'cos you've been slagging and diminishing Federer's achievements just as much if not more. The Nadal fans have been putrid since the USO finished. You also accused Federer of doping multiple times (Superman, swiss medicine, never gets tired, etc- that last part is laughable btw in comparison to your favourite player) so don't go acting like a saint (it doesn't suit you) and in the interest of double standards, you better have received a warning here too for the doping insinuations. Re GOAT status, it's far from done yet unless you haven't noticed and last time I checked someone hadn't noticed how clay dominant his favourite player's stats are. Federer had 2 match points to make the difference still 2 slams just a short time ago. What a short memory some people have...

PS: Let me re-phrase, the site's worst Nadal fans have been putrid since the USO. The good posters haven't been causing any grief at all and have in fact been embarrassed by the amount of crap their fanbase has been posting. The hilarious thing is the worst clowns seem to think it was the Federer fans who started it but, no, we didn't. It's been all stupid boast, boast, boast every damn thread from some people here. We've been merely replying to that crap and somehow the clueless ones seem to be too dumb to work out that we're only replying to the crap, not starting it.

Front all we poor nice Nadal fans said is facts like Nadal par goat with now he's just one behind+ been way better player in the 2010s which is like ten years now. From 2010-19) grand slam titles- Nadal 13) Federer 5, also we Nadal fans feel sad then Federer losese but, fedheads are fast to rub it in then Nadal loses matches. Finally we Nadal fans love Federer but let's face facts here, Nadal a much better player than Federer even on hard courts in the last ten years making 9 slam finals on hard courts to Federer only 4, Nadal also won 4 us opens) Federer 3 Australia opens) as you can see Nadal out played Federer in 2/3 surfaces in tennis clay hard courts.

 

[Andy22]

What's to like about dull? He's so boring. Grunts like a pig, plays muscular slow tennis, has almost always less winners than his opponents, wastes time, cheats, the list goes on...

There is no rivalry. Fed is much better than Nadal on 3/4 surfaces. Nadal is only better than Fed on clay. The end.

Yet Nadal going to pass Federer in the stat that matters the most grand slam titles, maybe will go back to your cave then Nadal goes that next season it's going to be great, must be hard to troll then Federer has not won a grand slam title in two years by the time Australia open come around.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Nadal is not just about taking time between points. You know very that it is not only about taking time between points.

What does he do? What exactly disgusts you? It's a simple question.

 

[atttomole]

What does he do? What exactly disgusts you? It's a simple question.

Come on, you know it. I have already mentioned it in the posts above. Most recent one, the guy charged his bandage before Federer served for the match. Wasn’t that familiar to you? What do you think about that behavior? And when we say it’s disgusting some Nadal fans are ticked off. Nadal likes to win so much that he tries every tactic possible. Shameless.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Come on, you know it. I have already mentioned it in the posts above. Most recent one, the guy charged his bandage before Federer served for the match. Wasn’t that familiar to you? What do you think about that behavior? And when we say it’s disgusting some Nadal fans are ticked off. Nadal likes to win so much that he tries every tactic possible. Shameless.

If you're disgusted because a guy changed his bandage at a questionable time, I'm afraid I've got some bad news for you...

But, as always. I will actually push this:

Tell me about Nadal's "every tactic in the book." List them. I'm waiting...

 

[monfed]

Dulltards had a merry ride so far because they were dunking on Fed and his competition and yapping about how Fed isn't the GOAT. Now if and when Nadull succeeds overtaking Fed's numbers, dulltards will have to face the music, when millions of Fed fans poke holes in his resume. Enjoy it because that's what you get for wanting GOAT status.

 

[atttomole]

If you're disgusted because a guy changed his bandage at a questionable time, I'm afraid I've got some bad news for you...

But, as always. I will actually push this:

Tell me about Nadal's "every tactic in the book." List them. I'm waiting...

I am not going to list them. You know them already. I like your new, smart approach to the debate.

 

[Moxie]

By the way, I am not easily disgusted. But Nadal’s behavior is disgusting.

I would argue that you ARE actually easily disgusted, if you find Nadal's behavior that abhorrent. He generally comports himself as a gentleman on and off the courts. I know that there's a lot of complaint about how slowly he plays, but as I have mentioned before, everyone praises him for his mental focus. I think his rituals and his slowness are about gathering that focus. You and others try to make it about gaming the other player. I don't agree with this, at all. I believe he plays slowly because it helps him think, plan, and make adjustments, which he does very well. There is a shot clock, and sometimes he gets called. But he's learning to work with it. So, let's face it, his pace of play is not "disgusting." There are rules for that, there are reasons that he plays "deliberately," I'd say. (And let's not forget that Djokovic can be a slow player.)

Bandage-Gate: You don't like the timing of when he it was bothering him, and took the time to rip it off. It didn't take that long. What about Federer going off the court v. Dimitrov for treatment on his neck, when he'd lost the 4th set? Where is the outrage? Something's bothering you, and you're losing so you want to try to fix it...is this a newsflash?

Here's the thing: there IS sometimes some disgusting behavior on-court done by tennis players. Kyrgios rings a lot of bells. Otherwise, screaming at umpires, throwing racquets, hitting umpires and lines people (Shapo/Nalbandian,) throwing coins gets mentioned, actually physically attacking the opponent has happened; racist comments have been made. Even Federer has been known to curse and throw racquets more than a few times. Djokovic came within inches of being defaulted when he nearly hit a linesman at RG, and I think that might have been the year he won it. Of all of these things, which of them is Nadal guilty of? Answer: He did get called for cursing once.

So, yes, I'd say you have a particular gag-reflex where Nadal is concerned, and it doesn't seem that he's earned your disgust. It comes down to the chicken-egg thing, right? If Nadal hadn't always been such a finger in Roger's eye, would he really bother you that much? Would there be this endless narrative created by Federer fans about what a Black Hat he is? A cheater? To me, it's clear why we keep massaging over the same small things...even years after they happened. You all whip yourselves into an endless frenzy, and including about falsehoods, and keep telling yourselves the same bedtime stories, because it suits your narrative.

 

[tented]

It is one thing to dislike somebody or something, but another is to hate. I could never watch a tennis match with the idea that I hate someone, even more so when it comes to the guys that are already legends of this sport.

This is spot on. We’ve seen examples recently of people hate-watching, which is so bizarre. If I hated a player that much, I wouldn’t waste my time nourishing such unpleasant feelings. I don’t listen to music I don’t like, I don’t watch films I don’t like, and I don’t watch players I don’t like.

 

[Front242]

This is spot on. We’ve seen examples recently of people hate-watching, which is so bizarre. If I hated a player that much, I wouldn’t waste my time nourishing such unpleasant feelings. I don’t listen to music I don’t like, I don’t watch films I don’t like, and I don’t watch players I don’t like.

There are often times when we all have to watch players we don't like if we happen to like their opponent though.

 

[brokenshoelace]

I am not going to list them. You know them already. I like your new, smart approach to the debate.

Ahhhh the old "you know exactly what I'm talking about" approach when nobody knows what you're talking about.

You said you're not easily disgusted but that Nadal's behavior DISGUSTS you. So no, I have no idea what you're talking about, because clearly, someone who's not easily disgusted cannot be disgusted by a guy taking time in between points. There has to be more. We're eagerly looking forward to hear what that is.