Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal fans slammed by Alex Corretja for attitude towards rivalry

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The proof is in your reaction... If it wasn't true you wouldn't have been so rattled... :popcorn

Ok sure thing. You're still a DULLTARD at the end of the day, a fan of a dirty CHEATER!!

Meanwhile me and front are fans of a clean player so we ROCK and you = suck!! Enjoy fangirling that cheating POS!
 

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Seeing as none of us here have any possibility of testing either guy on a frequent basis or retroactively testing samples that would be impossible. The Spanish government have a lot to answer for with the Fuentes debacle though since tennis players' blood was in the bags ordered to be destroyed. You think they all dope anyway so no proof is needed.

Isn't it funny how the morally bankrupt are always the most virtuous? It's like a parasite and it's same with all these dulltards.

I've YET to meet a genuine "Nadal fan"(actually dull has no legit fans because they all secretly wish for Fed's downfall) and then they have the fucking audacity to preach to Fed fans what a good tennis fan looks like. And yet to meet a dulltard who GENUINELY likes Roger and who wants him to win more slams and sincerely praises him without selling him short. It is UNREAL that not a single dulltard wants Roger to win more slams.

Me to a dulltard = DUDE/DUDETTE you follow a fucking cheater!! You're in no position WHATSOEVER to preach to Fed fans!! THE END!
 

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Isn't it funny how the morally bankrupt are always the most virtuous? It's like a parasite and it's same with all these dulltards.

I've YET to meet a genuine "Nadal fan"(actually dull has no legit fans because they all secretly wish for Fed's downfall) and then they have the fucking audacity to preach to Fed fans what a good tennis fan looks like. And yet to meet a dulltard who GENUINELY likes Roger and who wants him to win more slams and sincerely praises him without selling him short. It is UNREAL that not a single dulltard wants Roger to win more slams.

Me to a dulltard = DUDE/DUDETTE you follow a fucking cheater!! You're in no position WHATSOEVER to preach to Fed fans!! THE END!

Fan of player A doesn't want direct rival to win tournaments...alert the media.
 

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Ok sure thing. You're still a DULLTARD at the end of the day, a fan of a dirty CHEATER!!

Meanwhile me and front are fans of a clean player so we ROCK and you = suck!! Enjoy fangirling that cheating POS!

:cuckoo: :sleep:
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Jesus you people have short/no memories. It's embarrassing. He hadn't played in 6 months and had an adductor injury all week from the exertion of going straight back into best of 5.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/au.spor...d-injured-groin-australian-open-34277690.html
Again, you seem to think that just because he's injured, there is no conversation about the timing. Not the point. Nadal is certainly injured and often. You are wrong to imply that he's just faking it. The timing of it is still the issue, right?
 

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I already posted in detail recently about those 5 set matches Nadal fans keep harping on about from the AO 2017 even posting the length of the 5 set maches just to point out they were actually shorter than the advantage 3 hour Nadal match and I'm not doing it again cos you all forget and keep going on and on about those 3 non taxing 5 setters as if they were. He lost set 3 by 6-1 against Wawrinka so a same person could see he was effected. The ones Nadal took against Petzschner in 2010 he was running like a gazelle before and after. He was down 2 sets to 1 and getting killed out there. There is no comparison.
Just because you've said it before, doesn't make it any more convincing. You lot all keep saying how short they were, for 5-setters. Still makes 'em 5-setters, something Roger doesn't have to play that often. Shorter than an average Nadal 3-setter? But we're not talking about Nadal playing them, we're talking about a 7-months off, kind of injured...you say?, 35-year-old Roger. Stop with the running like a gazelle BS. Rafa plays hard even with pain. Do you even remember what he took the MTO for in that match you quote all the time? I'd say there's comparison aplenty. 3 matches in which the winner took what I think could be called well-timed MTOs, and eventually won each match and the Major.
 

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Is this like the typical discussion that goes on around here? :facepalm:

Welcome, ErenJaeger! LOL, well, when it comes to the Fedal Wars, yes. Plus, there's not much going on in tennis at the moment, and Rafa just pulled within 1 of Roger in the Majors count, so we have nothing to but scrap amongst ourselves. :lulz2:
 
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Again, you seem to think that just because he's injured, there is no conversation about the timing. Not the point. Nadal is certainly injured and often. You are wrong to imply that he's just faking it. The timing of it is still the issue, right?

How am I wrong to imply he was faking it against Petzschner? He was running like a gazelle before and after. For the record I wish they'd get rid of the medical timeouts completely from tennis. Let them play injured or retire. It's a bullshit rule but what's worse is when it's blatantly abused.
Not just the timing, MTOs just suck but it's obvious abuse when a player is still running around like a gazelle before and after taking one
 

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Just because you've said it before, doesn't make it any more convincing. You lot all keep saying how short they were, for 5-setters. Still makes 'em 5-setters, something Roger doesn't have to play that often. Shorter than an average Nadal 3-setter? But we're not talking about Nadal playing them, we're talking about a 7-months off, kind of injured...you say?, 35-year-old Roger. Stop with the running like a gazelle BS. Rafa plays hard even with pain. Do you even remember what he took the MTO for in that match you quote all the time? I'd say there's comparison aplenty. 3 matches in which the winner took what I think could be called well-timed MTOs, and eventually won each match and the Major.

How were they well timed and let's be real here, the only one you give a single shit about is the one in the AO 2017 final. Well that did wonders for him didn't it? He quickly went down 3-1 in the final set. Think before typing please.
 

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How were they well timed and let's be real here, the only one you give a single shit about is the one in the AO 2017 final. Well that did wonders for him didn't it? He quickly went down 3-1 in the final set. Think before typing please.
You seem to have missed the fact that I'd forgotten about that one, and the Wawrinka one. Unlike you, I'm inclined to believe a player when they take a MTO, and don't catalogue them the way that you do. They were all, however well-timed, in that they came when Roger lost the 4th set. I doesn't matter whether it worked out or not, does it? It's the intention, not the result. Just because someone's intention might be to slow an opponent's momentum, there's no guarantee that it will work out in their favor. The one I DO remember, which you haven't addressed, was when Roger lost the 4th set to Marat Safin, after having a MP, then promptly called for a MTO to get a back rub. Roger was then 23 years old, and went on to win his next 4 tournaments. If anyone had a weak head, it was Safin, so stopping things to let him think about it might have seemed like a good idea. Who knows? It didn't work out that Roger won, but it certainly was a suspicious time to say, "oh, my aching back." You are very selective in your outrage. When Nadal fans defend him from your constant claims of "cheating," you love to break out with a sarcastic comment about Rafa being a "saint." But you're the one who believes that Roger is. You're 100% certain that when Rafa takes a MTO, it's gamesmanship, fake injury, and cheating, while, at the same time, when Federer does it, you're 100% convinced it's all legit and nothing could have been further from the man's mind. Same with the doping. What's so laughable is you seem to be blind to your own inconsistencies.
 
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You seem to have missed the fact that I'd forgotten about that one, and the Wawrinka one. Unlike you, I'm inclined to believe a player when they take a MTO, and don't catalogue them the way that you do. They were all, however well-timed, in that they came when Roger lost the 4th set. I doesn't matter whether it worked out or not, does it? It's the intention, not the result. Just because someone's intention might be to slow an opponent's momentum, there's no guarantee that it will work out in their favor. The one I DO remember, which you haven't addressed, was when Roger lost the 4th set to Marat Safin, after having a MP, then promptly called for a MTO to get a back rub. Roger was then 23 years old, and went on to win his next 4 tournaments. If anyone had a weak head, it was Safin, so stopping things to let him think about it might have seemed like a good idea. Who knows? It didn't work out that Roger won, but it certainly was a suspicious time to say, "oh, my aching back." You are very selective in your outrage. When Nadal fans defend him from your constant claims of "cheating," you love to break out with a sarcastic comment about Rafa being a "saint." But you're the one who believes that Roger is. You're 100% certain that when Rafa takes a MTO, it's gamesmanship, fake injury, and cheating, while, at the same time, when Federer does it, you're 100% convinced it's all legit and nothing could have been further from the man's mind. Same with the doping. What's so laughable is you seem to be blind to your own inconsistencies.

I'm not selective, I genuinely don't remember that one from 2005. Anyway, he lost that match so you should be happy and it was one of the best matches of all time and I say that even though he lost. You're also wrong, obviously at the AO 2014 Nadal's back was goosed from 2-0 down in set 2 in the final so I don't think they were all fake but that's the only time I can genuinely say I've noticed him moving badly after a MTO.
 

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I'm not selective, I genuinely don't remember that one from 2005. Anyway, he lost that match so you should be happy and it was one of the best matches of all time and I say that even though he lost. You're also wrong, obviously at the AO 2014 Nadal's back was goosed from 2-0 down in set 2 in the final so I don't think they were all fake but that's the only time I can genuinely say I've noticed him moving badly after a MTO.
It doesn't matter if you don't remember the one from '05...he took it. As much as I try to believe when a player has an issue, that one was pretty clearly meant to cool off Safin. The 5th set went long, and RF fought off 7 MPs. He wasn't hurting that bad. Sure, I loved that match, but I won't even say you're missing the point. I'd say you're avoiding it. Roger did exactly what you complain of Rafa doing. As to AO '14, just because you can see a player get injured, doesn't mean it's the only time they're suffering something. Rafa is used to playing through pain. He says that, and I believe it. There's a lot of chronic injury there. There are plenty of times when the Fed fans claim that he's injured, though it's not really discernable to the naked eye. But we take you at your word, or I do. And you never reciprocate on that one.

I'm not even saying Rafa never used a strategically timed MTO. Hell, I saw Herbert get his thigh massaged yesterday after he lost the first set to Tsonga. Was that strictly necessary? Who knows? But you act as if Nadal is the Devil Incarnate, and yet you ignore when Roger has done the same thing. I'm sorry, if his groin was so bad, how come he lasted so long in that AO? I didn't see his movement hampered. I want to say that he was sprinting like a gazelle. Interesting that it only hurt when he lost the 4th set in each case. If you weren't so monumentally biased, you'd be able to admit that Roger has taken advantage of the option, as well, and on more than one occasion. And certainly that others do it, too. Rafa is your bogeyman because he's been Roger's. You may not cop to that in public on these forums, but I suspect you admit it to yourself.
 
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LOL see how rude you sound.
Tell me what is "rude" about that, other than that Roger is the Father, Son and Holy GOAT to his fans. He took a MTO in a really suspect time after he lost the 4th set v. Safin. You, monfed, are one who cries "cheater" to the rafters about Nadal. Tell me how you feel about that one v. Safin?
 

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Tell me what is "rude" about that, other than that Roger is the Father, Son and Holy GOAT to his fans. He took a MTO in a really suspect time after he lost the 4th set v. Safin. You, monfed, are one who cries "cheater" to the rafters about Nadal. Tell me how you feel about that one v. Safin?

No point arguing with someone who can't accept when they're wrong. It's a waste of time.
 

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So much wankery for nothing.

So let's first define what a Fed hater is why Corretja( a spaniard btw, what a coincidence!)

1) He doesn't want Fed to win ANYTHING. He always cheers for his opponent to somehow make him choke or lose and the only time they cheer for Fed is when it suits their agenda(aka RG 11 SF against faker). Then said Fed hater will tell Fed fans to calm down, don't be so arrogant blah blah blah when in reality they're stroking their own egos and enjoying the tears of Fed fans.

2) He is jealous of Fed's god given talent, that's he's inherently a vastly superior tennis player than faker and dull.

3) Fed haters are typically haters of talented players i.e shotmakers. Guys like Gulbis, Safin, Rios, you know the lot. They get even more wound up when the talented player says something brash which they mistake for arrogance. Quite frankly, they don't even know what arrogance is, that's the funny part. Arrogant would be someone like Ricky Ponting.

4) I think this one is well known but 50% of Fed haters are ex Petetards and 50% are nadull's fangirls(for his muscles). It's like me fanboying Kournikova cause she's hot. But I don't go yapping about her being the female GOAT. Nope that's still Graf.

5) A special note about "Fedal" fans. These fedal fans always root for dull when he plays Fed. There goes the fedal fan myth.

Feel free to add more if you think of something.
 

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No point arguing with someone who can't accept when they're wrong. It's a waste of time.
Translation: I have no answer for Roger's dodgy MTO at that moment.