Novak Djokovic's Vaccine Stance & Visa Troubles

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He followed the rules per Tennis Australia and the State of Victoria. He didn’t follow Federal government guidelines which was not allowing that exemption.

However, there is still talk that things listed on his forms are not adding up which is his fault if information listed on those forms is inaccurate.
 

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He followed the rules per Tennis Australia and the State of Victoria. He didn’t follow Federal government guidelines which was not allowing that exemption.

However, there is still talk that things listed on his forms are not adding up which is his fault if information listed on those forms is inaccurate.
May I add,TA and the state of Victoria,did not take any notice of the 2 letters they received from our Federal Health Minister,Greg Hunt last November,,outlining the health orders....having COVID within 6 months is not a reason for medical exemption.
 

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He followed the rules per Tennis Australia and the State of Victoria. He didn’t follow Federal government guidelines which was not allowing that exemption.

However, there is still talk that things listed on his forms are not adding up which is his fault if information listed on those forms is inaccurate.
That's it, it's straightforward when you fill out the forms. Yes/No, and if 'other', give reasons. Provide documents. Is everything you say here true? Sign your name.

I don't think the forms have been subjected to official scrutiny yet, in the sense of being put on trial. He was released the other day not because his story is verified, but because of a technicality. I just hope this is all cleared up soon either way, so we can get on with the tennis...
 
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Also, this hate towards novak is senseless

what’s his crime? He doesn’t believe he should be vaccinated? He’s a fit and healthy athlete and has had covid before, his decision not be vaccinated, i respect. I myself have had 3 shots as i don’t want to take any chances but i respect those who don’t think they need it

i have a problem with antivaxers who spread misinformation and tell people not to be vaccinated but is novak guilty of this? He is not one of those trying to convince people not to get vaccinated and spreading misinformation, he just doesn’t believe he needs it

and again, he’s not more of a threat to others vs vaccinated people, look at how kyrgios and nadal got covid and they are vaccinated

and again and again, he followed the rules to get in, it was australia’s inner mess which created this fiasco. All they had to do is tell novak he couldn’t get the exemption early on. Why was this so f difficult? Total incompetence by tennis australia, victorian government and commonwealth government.

Djokovic is the villain? People are confused, the real villains are australia, politicians and media who don’t seem to know the facts and want to politicize and sensationalize this

what a horrible man novak is, guilty of following rules and not wanting to get vaccinated, as personal choice, without discouraging others to get vaccinated, without spreading misinformation and without being more of a risk to others (based on fact vaccinated people are catching and spreading it too)

what a dispicable, horrible human being!!!
 
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Also, this hate towards novak is senseless

what’s his crime? He doesn’t believe he should be vaccinated? He’s a fit and healthy athlete and has had covid before, his decision not be vaccinated, i respect. I myself have had 3 shots as i don’t want to take any chances but i respect those who don’t think they need it

i have a problem with antivaxers who spread misinformation and tell people not to be vaccinated but is novak guilty of this? He is not one of those trying to convince people not to get vaccinated and spreading misinformation, he just doesn’t believe he needs it

and again, he’s not more of a threat to others vs vaccinated people, look at how kyrgios and nadal got covid and they are vaccinated

and again and again, he followed the rules to get in, it was australia’s inner mess which created this fiasco. All they had to do is tell novak he couldn’t get the exemption early on. Why was this so f difficult? Total incompetence by tennis australia, victorian government and commonwealth government.
Djokovic is the villain? We are confused, the real villains are austrlia and the woke media who don’t seem to know the facts and want to politicize and sensationalize this

what a horrible man novak is, guilty of following rules and not wanting to get vaccinated, as personal choice, without discouraging others to get vaccinated, without spreading misinformation and without being a risk to others (based on fact vaccinated people are catching and spreading it too)

what a dispicable, horrible human being!!!
Well, I agree with you about vaccinations, etc, but that isn't the issue here. If Australia's rules say you can't enter unvaccinated, then that leaves unvaccinated people with a dilemma, doesn't it? Novak is within his rights to not take the vaccine. He's had Covid and he yawned it off. But how is he to get into Australia without the vaccine? That's the issue, and it isn't yet transparent that he's doing it in the right way. There are many questions to be answered, and even if he's allowed to play, his own personal integrity has taken a hole below the waterline, if only because he's lied about travelling to Spain, and he didn't seem to treat the implications of the virus test seriously,...
 
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While it is comical that the amateur detectives out here are trying to help the Australian immigration authorities (the things you do for your Fedal sycophancy), the fact of the matter is that the Australian Open starts Monday. I don't know Australian law, but it seems to have a relatively normal (as in comparable to other Western countries) legal system. This means protracted legal battles over 'evidence' while Djokovic can participate in the AO. Highlighting for a prolonged period of time Australia's not so great immigration system while not getting what Scotty wants: immediate deportation. It would also damage the AO significantly if a player is deported (if possible) while the tournament is underway.

I could be wrong of course but I bet Scotty from marketing will opt to swallow this one and take his losses.
 

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It really depends on the reason of re-cancelling the visa,I doubt that Novak would be banned for 3 years ,from what I am hearing from officials here.Personally speaking I really dont think he should be banned for 3 years.Also people here want him to have 'restrictions' as we all have to be double vaccinated and he is not.I understand this could 'inflame' the situation...lets see what happens.

Will those who seek his removal, vaccination, what ever, love him a little more after that? Maybe will become a little more respectable? I don't believe either. Will they hate him at least a little less? I doubt. I even believe that all those who already hate him so much, they only dream of some evil, will hate him even more.

My recommendation is that all haters stop looking No1e, their health will be better preserved.
 
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Will those who seek his removal, vaccination, what ever, love him a little more after that? Maybe will become a little more respectable? I don't believe either. Will they hate him at least a little less? I doubt. I even believe that all those who already hate him so much, they only dream of some evil, will hate him even more.

My recommendation is that all haters stop looking No1e, their health will be better preserved.
I dont get the phrase Haters" of Novak, it is such a strong word to tag anyone,I feel.
We cannot all like the same players,that is fact,Novak is a great tennis player,noone can take that away from him,though it is up to tennis fans,if they like him as a person.We dont really know what these tennis players are 'really like' behind close doors.People can only judge what is in front of them and their behavior on court etc.
 
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I agree Djoke will get to play, especially if he isn’t ejected before the draw ceremony tomorrow. I do think his reputation has taken a huge hit. He’ll have to be happy with all his records because he’s never going to win the popularity contest after this mess. I wonder which would bring him greater joy.
 

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It’s a LIE that unvaccinated people are a public health threat. Nadal and kyrgios were vaccinated and they got covid, vaccinated people are spreading it..

Facts don’t seem to matter anymoe

not being vaccinated is a threat to oneself as you can get sicker but vaccinated or not, you can still catch it and spread it

the whole thing is absurd, people have lost reason.

again, this is Australia’s fault, djokovic followed the rules but people within australia messed up

Noooo! No1e spread the covid to 70,000 Australians. Didn't you know that? Every No1e hater will tell you that, every antiNo1e fan.
 
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That's it, it's straightforward when you fill out the forms. Yes/No, and if 'other', give reasons. Provide documents. Is everything you say here true? Sign your name.

I don't think the forms have been subjected to official scrutiny yet, in the sense of being put on trial. He was released the other day not because his story is verified, but because of a technicality. I just hope this is all cleared up soon either way, so we can get on with the tennis...

Who lied to you that No1e stated he did not travel a couple of weeks before arriving in Australia? Look at the original form, not some forgeries, that are now on the Internet as much as you want. It is true, he travelled, No1e stated at that time.
 
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Well, I agree with you about vaccinations, etc, but that isn't the issue here. If Australia's rules say you can't enter unvaccinated, then that leaves unvaccinated people with a dilemma, doesn't it? Novak is within his rights to not take the vaccine. He's had Covid and he yawned it off. But how is he to get into Australia without the vaccine? That's the issue, and it isn't yet transparent that he's doing it in the right way. There are many questions to be answered, and even if he's allowed to play, his own personal integrity has taken a hole below the waterline, if only because he's lied about travelling to Spain, and he didn't seem to treat the implications of the virus test seriously,...

The judge said yesterday that you were wrong. Will I trust you now more than him?
 
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Plus the penalties that the Australian government would impose on him.

Do you think No1e is such an idiot?