Nole's Wrist Injury Update

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Even if it is less severe/risky than thought I still question his decision to play Madrid. The fact of the matter is the wrist was bad enough to wear extensive tape and to be badly affected in the 2nd set vs. Roger. He shouldn't mess around and risk having it be similar to that or worse come RG.
 

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Actually, I neither question his injury, nor his decision to play MC.

On a side note, folks might recall he had very quick victories against
Albert Montanes (45 mins), an old dirt baller and PCB (don't remember exact time,
probably little under or over an hour), a new dirtballer. In fact, somebody even
commented that Novak plays this well with an injury.

Actually, in retrospect, Novak played that well not despite the injury but
due to the injury. Instead of playing his usual basline game with extended
rallies, he was coming to the net quite often and was basically trying to
finish the points quicker. I believe the reason he was playing in that manner
was to deliberately get out of the court quickly. It worked, until he
had to play GGL who was in form, having just won Casablanca.

Also, Novak openly told that he deliberately did not withdraw or
retire from semifinal as "people will talk about it".

As all of us know now, he gave it a try and once he lost the 1st set,
he essentially did a tank job to get out with dignity.
 

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I would like to think Novak knows his body, and would skip Madrid if he thought it the smartest decision.

Here's to hoping.
 

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Riotbeard said:
I would like to think Novak knows his body, and would skip Madrid if he thought it the smartest decision.

Here's to hoping.

I'm surprised more wrists don't snap like twigs with the way these guys are swatting at the ball! I don't care how light the rackets have gotten over the years, the balls are still heavy and the pace of shot is redonkulous! :nono I still remember Becker when his went; then Agassi! Haas seems to have chronic problems which aren't going to get any better as he ages! :angel:
 

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Becker actually had a great shot at Wimbledon that year, seeing as how Pete lost in the quarters. But his wrist went. He was Oz champ and recovered to play a couple of classic indoor matches with Sampras later in the year...
 

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Kieran said:
I don't think there's any doubts about his wrist. I mean, if you doubt it, it means you think he's faking. But why would he fake it? Also, he came into MC on a high...

No, I think that he was injured but not to the extent he carried on at MC..
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
I don't think there's any doubts about his wrist. I mean, if you doubt it, it means you think he's faking. But why would he fake it? Also, he came into MC on a high...

No, I think that he was injured but not to the extent he carried on at MC..

Since Rafa was taken out early, it made no sense to aggravate the injury by going on! The same thing happened a couple years ago when Rafa was upset on that "blue" clay Tiriac was pushing in Madrid! Nole couldn't move up enough to warrant sliding on that stuff and went out the next day himself! I think he overplayed in 2011 with all that success! After winning AO in '12 over Rafa, he's had to be more judicious in his attempts in winning titles! He's already nailed down "top 10 honors of all time" with little else needed to complete the box set; FO and Cinn.!
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
I don't think there's any doubts about his wrist. I mean, if you doubt it, it means you think he's faking. But why would he fake it? Also, he came into MC on a high...

No, I think that he was injured but not to the extent he carried on at MC..

Why? He was still very much in the match. It wasn't like Fed dominated the first set?

Plus he knew he wasn't facing Rafa the next day. All things considered, I think if he could have performed better he would have, as it would have been a relatively easy opportunity to bag a clay masters.
 

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isabelle said:
L'Equipe has just announced Nole would play Madrid. Good news, happy for him

Very good news. Thanks for the update, Isabelle.

Now let's hope he isn't getting bad medical advice, like what happened to JMDP, which made things worse and caused him to be sidelined longer than was probably necessary.
 

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tented said:
isabelle said:
L'Equipe has just announced Nole would play Madrid. Good news, happy for him

Very good news. Thanks for the update, Isabelle.

Now let's hope he isn't getting bad medical advice, like what happened to JMDP, which made things worse and caused him to be sidelined longer than was probably necessary.

Hope Nole won't try to play too soon . It's never the good moment to be injured, Nole wants to win RG so bad but he must stay injury free for that and be careful with his body. Hope his wrist is really OK, keep my fingers grossed
 

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He's in a Catch-22 with regards the wrist, and the FO. He may need more rest for the wrist, but he also needs to play and hit his best form for the FO.

Obviously, if the wrist needs rest, this trumps everything, but it's good news that he feels he might be ready for Madrid...
 

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worst case scenario is he has a cortisone injection that lasts months to get him through majors then re-assess in sept.

obviously that IS a last resort..but murray had a couple injections last year and he won Wimbledon on it.
 

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JesuslookslikeBorg. said:
worst case scenario is he has a cortisone injection that lasts months to get him through majors then re-assess in sept.

obviously that IS a last resort..but murray had a couple injections last year and he won Wimbledon on it.

Not much of a break between Roland Garros and Wimbledon and assuming he does well in both that's a whole lot of needle action. It can be done but really could jeopardize his career. Imagine the wrist would be like a balloon when he stopped the injections afterwards.

Ps: whatever about the rest of the players he faced, Murray didn't need any injections to beat the donkey that he faced in that final :s
 

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Front242 said:
JesuslookslikeBorg. said:
worst case scenario is he has a cortisone injection that lasts months to get him through majors then re-assess in sept.

obviously that IS a last resort..but murray had a couple injections last year and he won Wimbledon on it.

Not much of a break between Roland Garros and Wimbledon and assuming he does well in both that's a whole lot of needle action. It can be done but really could jeopardize his career. Imagine the wrist would be like a balloon when he stopped the injections afterwards.

Ps: whatever about the rest of the players he faced, Murray didn't need any injections to beat the donkey that he faced in that final :s

eh ?,:s its not "a whole lot of needle action" cortisone injections..they last months. and murray did.
 

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JesuslookslikeBorg. said:
Front242 said:
JesuslookslikeBorg. said:
worst case scenario is he has a cortisone injection that lasts months to get him through majors then re-assess in sept.

obviously that IS a last resort..but murray had a couple injections last year and he won Wimbledon on it.

Not much of a break between Roland Garros and Wimbledon and assuming he does well in both that's a whole lot of needle action. It can be done but really could jeopardize his career. Imagine the wrist would be like a balloon when he stopped the injections afterwards.

Ps: whatever about the rest of the players he faced, Murray didn't need any injections to beat the donkey that he faced in that final :s

eh ?,:s its not "a whole lot of needle action" cortisone injections..they last months. and murray did.

Hmm, you sure? I remember Agassi getting more than one in a few matches towards the end of his career.
 

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Seems there are differing facts/opinions out there regarding how long cortisone injections work for.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/ate/musclesjoints/201626.html
http://www.ask.com/question/how-long-does-a-cortisone-shot-last
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071022080034AA77dZy
http://rheuminfo.com/steroid-cortisone-injections-detailed-information#jump9
 

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obviously there are variations but its still a last resort option to get throught FO/WIMB/USO. the only prob would be numbing the part of the forearm whilst not affecting the feeling in the hand too much (presumably).

anyway I don't want to get bogged down in injury problems/solution on here. but these options will not be used (seemingly) seeing as djokovic says its a small injury.
 

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DarthFed said:
Even if it is less severe/risky than thought I still question his decision to play Madrid. The fact of the matter is the wrist was bad enough to wear extensive tape and to be badly affected in the 2nd set vs. Roger. He shouldn't mess around and risk having it be similar to that or worse come RG.

I'm kinda with you, Darth. Seems the only good reason to play Madrid is the points to gain, whereas there are plenty of good ones to sit it out. While the favorable diagnosis is good news, he was strapped up to his elbow a few days ago.
Kieran said:
He's in a Catch-22 with regards the wrist, and the FO. He may need more rest for the wrist, but he also needs to play and hit his best form for the FO.

Obviously, if the wrist needs rest, this trumps everything, but it's good news that he feels he might be ready for Madrid...

I think it was Front who said that Novak doesn't even play a tune-up for Wimbledon, and has done well the last 3 years. He'd likely be fine to play himself into form just at RG, but I'm sure he'd be fine with just Rome as the tune-up. If he's good to go for Madrid, that's great. I would have thought sitting it out might be prudent, is all.
 

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^ He's probably being greedy but hopefully not stupid by playing Madrid as he lost early there to Dimitrov last year and has the potential of lots of points to gain there.
 

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Madrid would be the least suitable, surface wise, and if he has a lot of points to gain, this also means he has few to defend, so skipping it wouldn't harm him too much.

But he obviously knows better than us, he's being advised and he feels good about playing. I'm glad, and I hope it's an injury that's forgotten about, come Rome...