Nole's Wrist Injury Update

[brokenshoelace]

I have no earthly idea why he played in Monte Carlo.

 

[Front242]

Lots of physios use this to strengthen a damaged wrist.

 

[Kieran]

What exactly is wrong with the wrist? Has there been any specifics?

 

[Front242]

Very hard to know with wrists really. Probably just a sprain/strain.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

I have no earthly idea why he played in Monte Carlo.

because he is a tennis player..thats what they do, play tennis in tennis tournements.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Wrist pain is weird though. I hurt my left wrist doing too many forearm curls in the gym like a clown about 3 years ago. Sitting on the end of a bench with the barbell over my knees I was doing forearm curls with 50kg (20kg barbell with 15kg either side) and clown face here decided to do 25 reps, followed by a set of 20 and then a final set of 16 reps. Forearms were ridiculously pumped like Popeye on the Friday I was doing this gym session but the following Monday I really regretted doing more than 10 reps on each set as my wrist was very sore and not even straight and eventually did about 8 physio sessions.

Back to the weird part. I could barely lift 2kg dumbbells for bicep curls on my left wrist after I hurt it as it was so sore with that particular bend of the wrist but yet I was able to do 3 sets of 10 reps of incline dumbbell chest press with 40kg dumbbells in each hand so it very much depends on the movement involved.

In the same way, some shots probably don't hurt Novak at all right now but others are very painful. My left wrist clicks still 3 years later after that stupid day when I was doing too many reps and if I could do a Marty McFly and go back 3 years I'd have cut out have those extra reps. Stupid :nono Anyway, a few strengthening exercises with special rubber bands from a good physio is probably what Novak needs and some time off. He'll be fine.

Either is tendons are inflamed or there may be a slight tear.. All he can do is rest, ice and take anti-inflammatories.. I would hope that he consider taking off the rest of the clay season to get ready for the GSs

 

[Front242]

^ I think the same. He can easily play RG without any further play on clay as he's easily good enough to play himself into form in best of 5. Playing Rome and Madrid would be suicide if he really has his eyes on RG.

 

[Moxie]

I have no earthly idea why he played in Monte Carlo.

because he is a tennis player..thats what they do, play tennis in tennis tournements.

JLLB's reply may seem snide, but he's not off the mark. This was a new pain that crept up on him. He's young and an athlete, and he trusts his body. He's also a competitor, and he'd won the last two events. He was hoping that he could work it out as he played. (He said as much.) In retrospect, that was not wise, but it's understandable that he didn't want to bail on a tournament that he was defending, for what may have just started as an irritation. We know that athletes deal with pain all the time. It's sometimes difficult to judge which ones need attention. He didn't judge it as anything major going into MC. He's taking it seriously now.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

^ I think the same. He can easily play RG without any further play on clay as he's easily good enough to play himself into form in best of 5. Playing Rome and Madrid would be suicide if he really has his eyes on RG.

I think he can do 3 weeks of R&R (rest and rehab) and then play at Rome. If possible,
he should try to play at Rome just to check that his "wrist is working". You don't want to
play in RG without knowing that everything is fine. If he can have a test run before RG,
that would be great.

He can skip Madrid safely though. Anyway, it is a weird tournament at a high altitutde
not particularly known for its role as a warm-up to RG.

Having said all that, if the Docs or his own body says to him, he is not ready yet,
he should skip Rome too.

But, I have a feeling he will be fine by the beginning of Rome Tourney, if not
by the beginning of Madrid.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

The real issue due to the wrist problem is not so much about being ready for RG,
which I think he will be. Novak has a very good chance of overtaking Nadal as
#1 player by the end of FO. That seems to be in jeopardy now.

 

[I.Haychew]

Wrist issues? Cum on, Jelena...You can do better than that!

 

[Luxilon Borg]

Wrist pain is weird though. I hurt my left wrist doing too many forearm curls in the gym like a clown about 3 years ago. Sitting on the end of a bench with the barbell over my knees I was doing forearm curls with 50kg (20kg barbell with 15kg either side) and clown face here decided to do 25 reps, followed by a set of 20 and then a final set of 16 reps. Forearms were ridiculously pumped like Popeye on the Friday I was doing this gym session but the following Monday I really regretted doing more than 10 reps on each set as my wrist was very sore and not even straight and eventually did about 8 physio sessions.

Back to the weird part. I could barely lift 2kg dumbbells for bicep curls on my left wrist after I hurt it as it was so sore with that particular bend of the wrist but yet I was able to do 3 sets of 10 reps of incline dumbbell chest press with 40kg dumbbells in each hand so it very much depends on the movement involved.

In the same way, some shots probably don't hurt Novak at all right now but others are very painful. My left wrist clicks still 3 years later after that stupid day when I was doing too many reps and if I could do a Marty McFly and go back 3 years I'd have cut out have those extra reps. Stupid :nono Anyway, a few strengthening exercises with special rubber bands from a good physio is probably what Novak needs and some time off. He'll be fine.

Either is tendons are inflamed or there may be a slight tear.. All he can do is rest, ice and take anti-inflammatories.. I would hope that he consider taking off the rest of the clay season to get ready for the GSs

Along with with that he will be doing extensive strengthening for the wrist and forearm. Rest and meds only will lead to a reoccurrence.

 

[brokenshoelace]

I have no earthly idea why he played in Monte Carlo.

because he is a tennis player..thats what they do, play tennis in tennis tournements.

...Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. Is it smart for tennis players to play tournaments that might jeopardize their participation in other, more important tennis tournaments?

 

[brokenshoelace]

^ I think the same. He can easily play RG without any further play on clay as he's easily good enough to play himself into form in best of 5. Playing Rome and Madrid would be suicide if he really has his eyes on RG.

I think he can do 3 weeks of R&R (rest and rehab) and then play at Rome. If possible,
he should try to play at Rome just to check that his "wrist is working". You don't want to
play in RG without knowing that everything is fine. If he can have a test run before RG,
that would be great.

He can skip Madrid safely though. Anyway, it is a weird tournament at a high altitutde
not particularly known for its role as a warm-up to RG.

Having said all that, if the Docs or his own body says to him, he is not ready yet,
he should skip Rome too.

But, I have a feeling he will be fine by the beginning of Rome Tourney, if not
by the beginning of Madrid.

He should play all of those tournaments you mentioned. He's a tennis player. That's what tennis players do.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

I have no earthly idea why he played in Monte Carlo.

because he is a tennis player..thats what they do, play tennis in tennis tournements.

...Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. Is it smart for tennis players to play tournaments that might jeopardize their participation in other, more important tennis tournaments?

is it smart for you to put yourself above djokovic and his doctor ?,

You don't know what the risk of playing is...you are not djokovic. or his doctor.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

yep, its a fact..tennis players play tennis in tennis tournaments. it really is what tennis players do .

 

[brokenshoelace]

I have no earthly idea why he played in Monte Carlo.

because he is a tennis player..thats what they do, play tennis in tennis tournements.

...Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. Is it smart for tennis players to play tournaments that might jeopardize their participation in other, more important tennis tournaments?

is it smart for you to put yourself above djokovic and his doctor ?,

You don't know what the risk of playing is...you are not djokovic. or his doctor.

Actually, I know what the risk of playing is, since he said he's going to miss some time. Therefore, the risk of playing was potentially further aggravating his injury, which seems to have happened. Do you really need to go to medial school to realize that playing while injured can aggravate an injury?

 

[brokenshoelace]

yep, its a fact..tennis players play tennis in tennis tournaments. it really is what tennis players do .

Again, thanks for the groundbreaking information. Now, is it also a fact that it's smart for tennis players to play while carrying an injury that could become serious? I'm well aware that athletes play hurt all the time. That much is a given. However, the extent of an injury, as well as the future ramifications matter a great deal, and surely Novak and his doctor realized the risks? Otherwise, I'd strongly recommend a change of doctor, and a change of coach while you're at it (I realize the latter is irrelevant, but hey, any excuse to take a dig at Becker).

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I have no earthly idea why he played in Monte Carlo.

because he is a tennis player..thats what they do, play tennis in tennis tournements.

...Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. Is it smart for tennis players to play tournaments that might jeopardize their participation in other, more important tennis tournaments?

is it smart for you to put yourself above djokovic and his doctor ?,

You don't know what the risk of playing is...you are not djokovic. or his doctor.

Actually, I know what the risk of playing is, since he said he's going to miss some time. Therefore, the risk of playing was potentially further aggravating his injury, which seems to have happened. Do you really need to go to medial school to realize that playing while injured can aggravate an injury?

Hindsight is always 20/20. Players do carry various forms of injury and yet participate based
on their team's assessment of the level of seriousness of the injury and the potential harm
playing could.

It is not as simple as, ya, I have a injury and I skip this tournament. Get real.

 

[brokenshoelace]

because he is a tennis player..thats what they do, play tennis in tennis tournements.

...Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. Is it smart for tennis players to play tournaments that might jeopardize their participation in other, more important tennis tournaments?

is it smart for you to put yourself above djokovic and his doctor ?,

You don't know what the risk of playing is...you are not djokovic. or his doctor.

Actually, I know what the risk of playing is, since he said he's going to miss some time. Therefore, the risk of playing was potentially further aggravating his injury, which seems to have happened. Do you really need to go to medial school to realize that playing while injured can aggravate an injury?

Hindsight is always 20/20. Players do carry various forms of injury and yet participate based
on their team's assessment of the level of seriousness of the injury and the potential harm
playing could.

It is not as simple as, ya, I have a injury and I skip this tournament. Get real.

I love how I'm having to be told that Novak probably played because he's an athlete, he's competitive, he's got points to defend, there's money involved a lot is on the line, etc...

Yeah, thanks for pointing that out guys. I really wasn't aware, as I started watching tennis yesterday, and thought whenever you have a niggling physical issue, you called in sick. So, with this earth shattering information out of the way...

Not every injury is the same, and some injuries have greater risk. A right wrist injury to a right handed player is a serious injury in the sense that it's literally going to affect every single shot you play. It's not like it's an injury that hampers your movement slightly so you try to compensate by serving bigger, try to end points quicker etc...

More importantly, it's the sort of injury that can be aggravated since you're putting so much stress on the wrist with every single shot that you hit.

So yes, I'm well aware that even with such an injury, a player still has to think long and hard before pulling out of a Masters 1000 event. However, with the busiest time of the season ahead, the sensible choice would have been to skip.

It's not just about hindsight. Do you not think the risks of him missing time due to playing in Monte Carlo was there before the Federer match? Do you think Novak was not aware of these risks and the injury suddenly got so unbearable that he couldn't play for some time without knowing when he'll return?

He made a judgment call, but it turned out to be the wrong one. Don't tell me to "get real" since it's hardly preposterous to suggest that Djokovic should have skipped Monte Carlo. I realize it wasn't a simple choice to make, but you need to "get real" if you think playing Monte Carlo was such a monumental decision that Novak had no choice but to make, in spite of the risks.

I'm not saying it was a suicidal decision, but it was a risk, and he's paying the price. That's all I'm saying.

PS: Leave the condescension for those who can pull it off. Or not misread basic English.