Miami Open, Florida, USA, ATP Masters 2017

[Shivashish Sarkar]

Simply put, Nick is not the guy to hit every ball deep or into a corner. But, he can unleash a winner shot when the time is ripe. I think he plays the waiting game at times and at times comes to the net. He is what he is. Not Djokovic or Nadal or Federer. But that doesn't mean he's not talented.

 

[DarthFed]

Lol, nothing like a total retard calling someone else a tard. But please keep bringing up results back when Fed sucked on clay or Indian Wells in 2003 before Federer became a dominant force. What shit are you trying to sell? I agree Fed has more time to line up his shots on slower courts. Now this may come as a revelation to you but so does EVERYONE else, slower courts means more time. Wow I never had thought of that until you enlightened me. Also, this of course will come as a revelation to you but Federer plays with some of the most spin on tour, he doesn't need a lot of time to produce spin. Clearly he doesn't need a lot of time to do whatever the fuck he wants on the court which is a big part of the reason he is much better on faster surfaces.

And all I saw was a bunch of tears from a Wafatard about Fed winning RG in 2009. Rafa wasn't around in RG before 2005, why didn't Fed take advantage then, or are we saying the 2005-2009 version would've lost to plastic hip Kuerten or to mighty Louis Horna like he did in the first round of RG in 2003, or mighty Hicham Arazi like he did in the first round in 2002. I'd say even a dumbfuck like yourself could admit Federer may have gotten a little better on clay after his early years.

The YEC is the 5th biggest event of the year and the biggest one indoors. Rafa and his precious uncle have whined for years about the surface in the YEC. With similar idiotic logic like your own they seem to think the YEC should alternate surfaces every year after a full month + of indoor hard courts. With such whining you can bet your dumb ass he wants to win one there a heck of a lot more than he would want to win Miami or Paris.

 

[El Dude]

Kyrgios could be in the Safin/Wawrinka mold - very talented and capable of beating anyone when he's hot, but inconsistent and also able to lose to anyone. He truly is a wildcard: I could see a scenario where he flames out in Slams, year after year, and doesn't win any; I can also see him winning four or five.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Great start by Rafa..F3 is in a Fog..I think Rafa will not let up in the 2nd set however F3 will raise his game

 

[Moxie]

Rafa predictably sharp start, and Fognini is in something of a stupor out there, even for him. Great conditions for Rafa: hot and windy.

 

[Frode789]

Easy win for Nadal. Don't think the match later today is going to be as fast and easy.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Easy win for Nadal. Don't think the match later today is going to be as fast and easy.

IDK.. Rafa hasn't dropped the hammer on him yet:nono

 

[Frode789]

Easy win for Nadal. Don't think the match later today is going to be as fast and easy.

IDK.. Rafa hasn't dropped the hammer on him yet:nono

Almost 1 set bagel. Don't think it should take too long. Playing good.

 

[Federberg]

I'm sorry to say this but that's a load of FedTARD stuff you wrote there, the thing you always hear from the fedtards on sites like mtf.

At the start of this debate you brought in even HC and grass as if they were anything similar to clay to play on. Your theory is pretty simple from the start. The faster the better for Roger, only high bounce can hurt him.

Then you compare his results in Rome to the ones in MC where he didn't even bother to show up. In Rome 2003 he faced nobodies, players who played badly and in the semifinal Ferrero retired with shoulder injury, just lol!!! cakewalk for Rogi, but Mantilla, the only decent clay court player with good spin brought him down. He actually made Fed look like a fool, and exactly because Fed had no time to prepare for his strokes like on slow hamburg clay.

Then you're saying Fed won the prized jewel against who? not a real claycourter with heavy topspin, the thing that causes him serious troubles on clay, but Söderling, a ping-pong player. Actually he vultured that title, not won it in a true battle.

Fast court, fast court, fast court, cry the Fedtards. Yes, Fed often said he prefers fast courts generally, but he said things like this too:

“Obviously the margins are smaller on a quicker court,” Federer said on Friday. “Because let’s say the first game I do get broken because he hits a few good shots and maybe I serve one, maybe two maximum serves not perfect, you’re right away in trouble, which on a slower court is not going to happen that quickly. So I feel probably a bit more confident on a slower court against a normal player. Against top guys, they can also play very well on the faster courts as well.”

Source: http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2014-01-04/14452.php

This was said in a context with avoiding upsets in mind, however, the smaller margins apply to a fast claycourt too. Players with decent topspin like Guga and Mantilla made Fed look like a clown.

Guga Straight setted Fed both at RG and Indian wells, which is hard court, what a surprise, Fed could beat him only in Hamburg, and in 3 sets.

We've had many discussions about this on various sites and 3-4 of the most knowledgable and neutral posters said that Fed had more time to prepare for his strokes on slow clay. The only knowledgable poster who said something different was Action Jackson, he said that the most important thing was the footing, there may be a grain of truth in that even though Guga beat Roger at IW in straights too which again indicates the first theory is more likely truer.

Very logical too btw, killer topspin with smaller margin= suckage, also on clay you have to put spin on your shot otherwise your shots will be weakfarts. You can't play ping-pong on clay lol. I guess only the most dedicated Fedtards can't accept this simple fact.

About the WTF, not much to add, the icing on the Fedtard cake, a tourney which has the most blatant tankings, to the extent it's almost unwatchable and where only players who go for rankings care about giving a half-assed effort. Just lol!

You say some strange things mate. First you talk about matches Federer played vs Mantilla and Kuerten, before he got really comfortable playing on clay. Then you go back to your nonsense regarding the WTF? Seriously... you clearly don't like the tournament, that's your choice. But I've been watching that tournament as far back as some of the mighty battles between Lendl and McEnroe. If it was such a scrub tournament, you only have to look at the calibre of player's who've won it. Since 1980, I can only think of Davydenko and Nalbandian who weren't multi-slam and/or number 1 ranked players (I may be wrong). I can think of few tournaments including slams with that sort of pedigree mate. Think again...

 

[Federberg]

Rafa predictably sharp start, and Fognini is in something of a stupor out there, even for him. Great conditions for Rafa: hot and windy.

have you noticed the number of times players have chuffed shots this tournament? Wonder what's causing it. When it's 3 or 4 players it's happened to, I start to ask questions...

 

[the AntiPusher]

Easy win for Nadal. Don't think the match later today is going to be as fast and easy.

IDK.. Rafa hasn't dropped the hammer on him yet:nono

Almost 1 set bagel. Don't think it should take too long. Playing good.

F3 got some coaching during his bathroom break..that's should get him a reprimand from the ATP

 

[the AntiPusher]

Rafa is not putting his foot on F3 throat..this isn't the guy you want to find his rhythm..

 

[mightyjeditribble]

Looking at stats, Rafa seems to be serving well.

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[mightyjeditribble]

... and Fognini is not. Double fault #5!!!

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[the AntiPusher]

... and Fognini is not. Double fault #5!!!

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Doesn't matter cause 2set Rafa's game has went walk about..F3 may steal this set although he is playing lousy

 

[Federberg]

Fog is starting to play now. Reminds me of the Berdych comeback yesterday, although Rafa isn't going all flaky like Wog did

 

[Moxie]

have you noticed the number of times players have chuffed shots this tournament? Wonder what's causing it. When it's 3 or 4 players it's happened to, I start to ask questions...

I have, actually. Weird spots on the court? Have they resurfaced lately?

 

[Moxie]

Fog is starting to play now. Reminds me of the Berdych comeback yesterday, although Rafa isn't going all flaky like Wog did

I certainly HOPE not.

 

[DarthFed]

Rafa blew a couple golden chances early in the 2nd, now Fog has come to life a bit and made this a tight set.

 

[mrzz]

Tennis gods blew some help to Nadal.