No way my friend. Kyrgios's likely to lose in 2 or 3rd round (eg. against Rublev) when he has a little dip of form during the match. He'll try to fight it by blaming the crowd or the empire and will try to derail the match by creating another circus of code violations (he knows he has 3 of them before he's defaulted) hoping that the opponent gets distracted enough by the circus and loses concentration allowing Kyrgios to come back and win against the odds. That's a typical Kyrgios' modus operandi. With such attitude, he has virtually zero chances of winning a slam (i.e. 7 matches in a row) because at some point he hits an opponent who will be hard to distract by the circus and/or Kyrgios will run out of allowed violations and will be defaulted.
Kyrgios's problem: skill, not on-court attitude
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nothing more annoying than when a wheelchair fan tries to be smart. You do not have inside knowledge about what NK thinks, pls don't play the role of expert....as if you know him to any meaningful extent.
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@Chris Koziarz
I am happy to inform you, that on behalf of the expert's committee (formed by myself, @brokenshoelace, @herios and @El Dude), I hereby declare you a junior Internet Tennis Expert (ITE). It is a first step in becoming a senior ITE. As a junior member, all your opinions are almost instantly turned into irrefutable reality, only needing a nod from a senior to have the final stamp. Remember, with great power comes great responsibility. Keep driving safe.
For the other applicants, don't give up and keep trying.
I am happy to inform you, that on behalf of the expert's committee (formed by myself, @brokenshoelace, @herios and @El Dude), I hereby declare you a junior Internet Tennis Expert (ITE). It is a first step in becoming a senior ITE. As a junior member, all your opinions are almost instantly turned into irrefutable reality, only needing a nod from a senior to have the final stamp. Remember, with great power comes great responsibility. Keep driving safe.
For the other applicants, don't give up and keep trying.
There is no other applicant, don't hold your breathe...even if you try to be funny. However it's been declared that Nadal fully intends to cheat by stalling, mto and toilet break, he knows by doing that he would instantly get into opponent's head and gain about 5 points advantage.
Thanks I am more happy with a moniker of "junior expert" herein, rather than the "wheelchair aspirant expert" others are trying to give me. What happens though when there is no "senior's nod"? In particular, my opinion about Kyrgios abovein, which opened a world of expertship for me, openly disagrees with the opinion of a senior (brokenshoelace) which should rather result in a dispute rather than a nod...
Perhaps rather than displaying your annoyance here, you could maybe explain why you disagree with my opinion? Maybe you know Kyrgios better than I do? Tell me why I am wrong in my opinion, rather than hand-waving that I "don't have knowledge" to "play the role of expert". Your words are meaningless because they cannot be evaluated argued against in any meaningful way.
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If you only find silence as an answer, look within your heart for the reasons behind the silence.
Take the opinions of senior members as guidance on your way to the light.
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Nick said ATP is corrupt right after the match. That's one way to go.
It’s like saying the ocean is wet.
Calling any professional sports organization/federation corrupt is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Nick said ATP is corrupt right after the match. That's one way to go.
It’s like saying the ocean is wet.
Calling any professional sports organization/federation corrupt is like shooting fish in a barrel.
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If you're an athlete competing under the said organization, calling them corrupt is like attacking your shark when you're the remora.
Then he's corrupt too. But that we already know, don't we.
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They are not corrupt. That’s how life works. If you are at the grammys you bet that they are going to give someone like Whitney Houston or Michael Jackson better seats, a better time spot for their performances, will bend the rules for them, give them what they want, allow them more special demands, more time for their speech, etc. compared to some other less famous and less successful stars. It’s because they are legends and they earned that right, people are there to watch them they are the headliners. The same goes for someone like Nadal vs a nobody like Kyrgios. It doesn’t only work like that in sports/entertainment but in life in general. When you become important you get special treatment. Take out someone like Nadal or Federer out of the stadium in a match vs Struff or Paire and people will leave. The opponent would be left with the referee in an empty stadium. So of course referees and the atp are aware of that. Kyrgios should stop being a pathetic crybaby.
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Eventually he realised he must not attack his host and backpedalled off his irresponsible claim. Now he's saying they are "double-standard", which is echoing of his latest on-court tantrums.
I don't know of a slightest indication of Kyrgios being corrupt. And I highly doubt it, because it would be very incompatible with his character AFA I know him. Please provide a proof of what you know if you think I'm wrong here and your proof can correct me.
By that I meant that he still plays along -- for dough, despite knowing how crooked they are. He's part of the corrupt show he has been bitching about. Ultimately, Kyrgios is bitching about himself. And I'm bored with his shtick. Wake me up when he gets his shit together and wins a major.
first you are the one making the statement so you would be the one to provide valid info on which you draw such conclusion from, otherwise it's just random statement backed up by nothing which = meaningless. I don't know and don't pretend to know what NK actually thinks, but he throws tantrums whether he wins or loses, leads or trails in a match, on any given day which indicates fair level of randomness. By his own admission, he plays the way he wants to (not how he should) and it suggests that would be quite correlated to his behaviour....that he behaves the way he wants to behave. So there goes the evaluation, vs some random speculation by you backed up by nothing.
So yes if you are the one accusing him of throwing tantrums intending to distract (ie how he thinks), you are liable for providing evidence otherwise it's just bollock. The fact you in turn requested me to prove why you don't know, shows exactly why you got it all wrong in the first place...you should be the one proving it.
Thanks for that clarification. I'm with you now. But sorry, I likely won't wake you up: he will not win a major, virtually no chance.
I disagree with the emphasised part of your evaluation. In the latest incident, Kyrgios has thrown tantrum when he was losing. Against Nadal, he hit Nadal deliberately with the ball when he was losing and he achieved the goal of distracting Nadal (he knows how easy Nadal can be distracted), re-read the very first post of this thread. Against Waw, he issued his historic sexist slur after he lost a point and a celebration by Waw enraged him. I don't know of any instances of Kyrgios throwing tantrums when he's winning. He complains about fan interference only when he is distracted, never when the opponent is distracted.
I don't claim that I know what Kyrgios is thinking. But I see repeated patterns of his behaviour on and off court. If the pattern is repeated enough times, I start forming my opinion about someone's behavioural motivation. Because our behaviour is always motivated, nothing (or rarely anything) happens at random here, especially in case of the highly emotional behaviour such as Kyrgios' tantrums. Your claim that said tantrums are random or that "he behaves the way he wants to behave" here indicates that you disregard our knowledge of human psychology.
Lmao.....I bet you were "pretty appalled." That's because you have next to no familiarity with the urban sports culture of which Krygios is clearly a part. He obviously listens to a lot of rap and his proclivity for blowing up and acting out is nothing unique by NBA/NFL standards.
To give you one of dozens of examples, here is "Steph" Curry - from the passionately and self-righteously anti-Trump Golden State Warriors, whose coach condemned Trump for a "lack of civility" - throwing a mouthpiece, yes a mouthpiece, at an NBA referee. I bet you know nothing about this.
And guess who Curry met with for a round of golf the following day?
His buddy who loves talking about "civility in politics": none other than Barack Obama. Enjoy this Moxie, get a little exposure to a world you know nothing about. You will likely be "pretty appalled" by this too:
Btw, Curry throwing his mouthpiece at the official occurred just 1 month - yes, 1 month - after this sanctimonious monologue from Golden State coach Steve Kerr, in which he remarked that his team does not share common values such as "dignity" and "civil discourse" with Trump. Yes, Steve, your star player showed remarkable dignity and civility in throwing a mouthpiece at an official. How dignified and civil. It doesn't get much more honorable than that:
You confuse 2 very distinct forms of bad/unacceptable social behaviour (that of Curry - throwing a mouthpiece at an umpire vs. that of t-man - creating political divisions within the country) under a common moniker of "lack of civility". Curry's act was a snap performed in a state of high emotional frustration, motivated as a release of said frustration. Kyrgios tantrums also fall into that category. T-man's acts are pre-determined ploy to divide the nation, motivated (as the coach claims on your video) by racism. These are behaviours so dramatically different that I don't even understand how you can throw them into the same bag. If I was in this coach's shoes, I would maintain that my player Curry (even if he made a mistake underr the stress of a game) has a lot dignity and civility in comparison with t-man, if Curry is not a racist.
