Kyrgios's problem: skill, not on-court attitude

[backhandslapper]

Nice try, numbnuts. You just post stupid Federer hate in most of your posts. You haven't exposed a whole fucking lot here except your 10 lowly likes. Check the number of mine compared to yours. That, to a sane person, would indicate they see more sense in mine than yours. Duh.

Which is precisely what I'm talking about. You are the dumbest poster I have run into here so far. Like, really, really dumb.

 

[Moxie]

I haven't conveniently ignored it. There seems to some dumb consensus around here (mostly by Nadal fans it has to be said) that by not replying someone has ignored it. Fact: people work, people have busy schedules, people go to the gym after work. I tick all 3 there. I might have time to reply to shorter posts but not everything and I may still reply later. It seems around here if you don't reply immediately it's apparently been ignored.

The one thing I'll say in reply to his dumb fucking post is the part about nature apparently wasting a skull on me. The guy has 8 fucking likes (not that anyone really gives a shit about likes but it shows not many people like his posts which in itself says a lot actually) and if I could I either use my nature wasted skull to headbutt him or just sling it in his general direction I gladly would find the time to at least do that right now.

Edit, he now has a whopping 10 likes. Whoopy fucking do lol.

Yes, people have lives, and don't actually have to respond where they don't care to, or miss a post, or don't have the time. A lot of trash-talking going on here, which tends to stall the conversation. But, since this thread is about Kyrgios, and his behavior, I am still curious how you're OK with his on-court distractions, and time-wasting...because when he does things like he did the other night, he is wasting everyone's time, let's face it...and yet you are basically supporting him because he claims that the umps don't adjudicate the violations fairly, and that top players get a pass. That may be a point, and it does get discussed around here, too, but are you really willing to give the rest of Nick's behavior a pass, when it also qualifies as "gamesmanship?" You claim to know the motivation behind Nadal's tics and rituals, (according to you they are only about putting off the opponent,) and at the same time you're are just as sure that Nick is simply unable to control himself. To me, this seems like you deciding what's in people's heads. For you to be so hair-on-fire all the time about Nadal's on-court behavior, which you frankly constantly refer to as cheating and gamesmanship, and yet give Nick a full pass is rather surprising to me. I'm just curious to hear you justify the difference. I'm not sure if you did say that you saw the match v. Khachanov, but those of us watching in real time were pretty appalled. As was the ATP, I guess, based on the fine.

 

[Ricardo]

He didn't even throw tantrums because he was good to win. Thank you for volunteering to underscore our point. Now, what was your level, honey?

So if he didn't throw tantrums and lost, it's that he was not good enough. If he did and still lost, its because he is losing and trying to distract. So what's your point again? it's just writing a narrative to fit whatever crap you like, as if you think you have a point. What's my level? my level is decent enough to have a healthy respect for players who are superb talents in what they do. And I don't pretend like I know that they plot some conspiracy out of my own imagination as if there is some kind of evidence, because you actually have nothing to prove your made up story.

 

[Ricardo]

Yes, people have lives, and don't actually have to respond where they don't care to, or miss a post, or don't have the time. A lot of trash-talking going on here, which tends to stall the conversation. But, since this thread is about Kyrgios, and his behavior, I am still curious how you're OK with his on-court distractions, and time-wasting...because when he does things like he did the other night, he is wasting everyone's time, let's face it...and yet you are basically supporting him because he claims that the umps don't adjudicate the violations fairly, and that top players get a pass. That may be a point, and it does get discussed around here, too, but are you really willing to give the rest of Nick's behavior a pass, when it also qualifies as "gamesmanship?" You claim to know the motivation behind Nadal's tics and rituals, (according to you they are only about putting off the opponent,) and at the same time you're are just as sure that Nick is simply unable to control himself. To me, this seems like you deciding what's in people's heads. For you to be so hair-on-fire all the time about Nadal's on-court behavior, which you frankly constantly refer to as cheating and gamesmanship, and yet give Nick a full pass is rather surprising to me. I'm just curious to hear you justify the difference. I'm not sure if you did say that you saw the match v. Khachanov, but those of us watching in real time were pretty appalled. As was the ATP, I guess, based on the fine.

when you use on court coaching, that's intent enough to gain advantage specifically not allowed by the rules. if you say he didn't intend such advantage, then he absolutely wouldn't do it....there is no other way around it. As far as on court outbursts, it is not a comparable concept...stop trying to muddy the water as if we cant spot what you are trying to do, as always. For a start, don't try to get smart people see it miles away.

 

[Moxie]

when you use on court coaching, that's intent enough to gain advantage specifically not allowed by the rules. if you say he didn't intend such advantage, then he absolutely wouldn't do it....there is no other way around it. As far as on court outbursts, it is not a comparable concept...stop trying to muddy the water as if we cant spot what you are trying to do, as always. For a start, don't try to get smart people see it miles away.

This post is not about on-court coaching. You've chided me about staying in my lane so why don't you stay in yours. You were trying to get a response out of Broken and I'm trying to get one out of Front. I don't think you get to tell me what posts I get to respond to, and I'm not trying to tell you which ones you do. However, try replying to an appropriate post.

 

[backhandslapper]

So if he didn't throw tantrums and lost, it's that he was not good enough. If he did and still lost, its because he is losing and trying to distract. So what's your point again? it's just writing a narrative to fit whatever crap you like, as if you think you have a point. What's my level? my level is decent enough to have a healthy respect for players who are superb talents in what they do. And I don't pretend like I know that they plot some conspiracy out of my own imagination as if there is some kind of evidence, because you actually have nothing to prove your made up story.

If throwing a tantrum to distract the opponent sounds like a conspiracy theory to you, you're a simpleton. And for all I know, that's exactly what you are.

 

[Front242]

Which is precisely what I'm talking about. You are the dumbest poster I have run into here so far. Like, really, really dumb.

Haha, sure I am. Says the fuck tard trying to convince everyone how amazing Djokovic is when it took a lot of luck (ie 2 missed match points and hideous play in 3 TBs 'cos he was the better player most of the match) for him to barely beat a 38 year old at Wimbledon. You also keep bragging about his h2h over the old man. Newsflash: Federer is ancient for a professional tennis player and yet, even years outside his prime, Djokovic has a lot of touble with him which shows he's nowhere near as good as you think. Your posts gloating about Djokovic are embarrassing and it's pretty obvious to everyone it's actually YOU who are right up there as one of the dumbest here.

I'm logical and see it as no surprise that a guy 6 years younger (the world number 1, no less) in his prime beats the older guy most of the time, however, your beloved Djokovic only started getting the h2h advantage when Federer was ancient and the old guy has also spanked him multiple times as a geriatric. No amount of you trying to make me out as dumb, which clearly I'm not (that'd be you mr. delusional/illogical) is working here as everyone here can see the real deal.

 

[the AntiPusher]

I haven't conveniently ignored it. There seems to some dumb consensus around here (mostly by Nadal fans it has to be said) that by not replying someone has ignored it. Fact: people work, people have busy schedules, people go to the gym after work. I tick all 3 there. I might have time to reply to shorter posts but not everything and I may still reply later. It seems around here if you don't reply immediately it's apparently been ignored.

The one thing I'll say in reply to his dumb fucking post is the part about nature apparently wasting a skull on me. The guy has 8 fucking likes (not that anyone really gives a shit about likes but it shows not many people like his posts which in itself says a lot actually) and if I could I either use my nature wasted skull to headbutt him or just sling it in his general direction I gladly would find the time to at least do that right now.

Edit, he now has a whopping 10 likes. Whoopy fucking do lol.

"Fact people work (flipping burgers at Micky D's), you ain't that busy because you posting every damn day about nothin and juicing up in buttocks doesn't really constitutes a real work out in the gym , IMO.

 

[Front242]

"Fact people work (flipping burgers at Micky D's), you ain't that busy because you posting every damn day about nothin and juicing up in buttocks doesn't really constitutes a real work out in the gym , IMO.

Don't make yourself look anymore of an idiot than you already are moron. Even making steroid accusations now. What a fucking clown. We'll leave the steroids to your pal, Nadal, ok. I have zero need for them.

 

[brokenshoelace]

"Fact people work (flipping burgers at Micky D's), you ain't that busy because you posting every damn day about nothin and juicing up in buttocks doesn't really constitutes a real work out in the gym , IMO.

Are we seriously now making shit up about people's personal lives and shaming them about it? It's bad enough the tennis discussion has been dumb.

 

[Moxie]

This dick-measuring contest is so sad. I was just hoping for a response from Front as to the topic at hand and Kyrgios' behavior.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Regarding @Front242 's super arbitrary justification of why Kyrgios' actions don't bother him, I can't help but chuckle. OK, let's assume, for argument's sake, that Kyrgios isn't doing it to bother his opponent. There's still major problems with that, which go beyond Front conveniently assuming that Nick's intentions are pure.

First of all, the idea that Nick is some white night fighting against the corrupt system is laughable. OK, let's say Nick is right to berate the umpire when Nadal is taking too much time in between serves...that's like what, 2-3 matches a year? What about every other fucking match where he's throwing a tantrum? Are they all against players who are abusing the rules? Or could it be that he's just a spoiled brat who looks to be mad at things to either get himself riled up or justify why he's playing like shit... He throws a tantrum on too much of a regular basis for all of them to be justified. Most of the time, he does it when he's playing poorly...hmm, I wonder if there's any correlation.

Secondly, and much more importantly, nobody should give a shit WHY Nick is doing that, what matters is the effect it has. Newsflash, if some guy is speaking loudly in the movie theatre, I don't give a shit if he's doing it without any intentions to bother anyone else. I don't give a shit if he's having a fight with his girlfriend or he has any legitimate excuse. I just want him to shut the fuck up and not bother people. His obliviousness to the disturbance he's causing does not make his actions any less problematic. The same applies to Nick. I don't care if he doesn't mean to bother his opponent, the fact is, he is (and I assume we're all conveniently ignoring that time he told Wawrinka about another player banging his girlfriend...).

To give a tennis related analogy, if someone argues that the reason Nadal takes so much time in between points isn't a deliberate attempt to bother his opponent but it's strictly about him going through his routine and concentrate before serving, does it change a thing? His intentions matter very little. Fact is he's taking more time than he should be taking and he needs to tone it down.

 

[Jelenafan]

. The same applies to Nick. I don't care if he doesn't mean to bother his opponent, the fact is, he is (and I assume we're all conveniently ignoring that time he told Wawrinka about another player banging his girlfriend...).

Maybe Wawrinka was taking too much time between points....

 

[backhandslapper]

Haha, sure I am. Says the fuck tard trying to convince everyone how amazing Djokovic is when it took a lot of luck (ie 2 missed match points and hideous play in 3 TBs 'cos he was the better player most of the match) for him to barely beat a 38 year old at Wimbledon. You also keep bragging about his h2h over the old man. Newsflash: Federer is ancient for a professional tennis player and yet, even years outside his prime, Djokovic has a lot of touble with him which shows he's nowhere near as good as you think. Your posts gloating about Djokovic are embarrassing and it's pretty obvious to everyone it's actually YOU who are right up there as one of the dumbest here.

I'm logical and see it as no surprise that a guy 6 years younger (the world number 1, no less) in his prime beats the older guy most of the time, however, your beloved Djokovic only started getting the h2h advantage when Federer was ancient and the old guy has also spanked him multiple times as a geriatric. No amount of you trying to make me out as dumb, which clearly I'm not (that'd be you mr. delusional/illogical) is working here as everyone here can see the real deal.

Get new pills.

Maybe Wawrinka was taking too much time between points....

Right? I find it surreal that so many people go at such ridiculous lengths, embarrassing themselves with an elementary logic after an elementary logic disaster, all that trying to justify such an obvious cheap-shot artist, simply because he sucked up to their sacred cow's nipple. There is absolutely no other rationale behind this. They don't even like Kyrgios. When you actually like someone, you like them for what they are. And Nick is a cheap-shot artist. On and off the court. Funny and talented. And cracked alright.

But they don't see him as a human being. They see him as another maniac Fedfan that needs to be defended at all cost.

It's a fucking sect.

Fair enough, it's usually the benthos of the Fedfan manure. But I'm seriously FED up with these morons. They're the definitive downside of the current tennis. They're stupider than the dumbest of the football crowds.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Don't make yourself look anymore of an idiot than you already are moron. Even making steroid accusations now. What a fucking clown. We'll leave the steroids to your pal, Nadal, ok. I have zero need for them.

The premise.of my post is that you should answer the question and quit all the BS about you are too busy. Heck man, we all are busy but you make it seem like you are Jeff Bezos..Just answer to the poster's inquiry and move on. Nobody cares about all the other " noise" about your daily activities.

 

[Front242]

Get new pills.



Right? I find it surreal that so many people go at such ridiculous lengths, embarrassing themselves with an elementary logic after an elementary logic disaster, all that trying to justify such an obvious cheap-shot artist, simply because he sucked up to their sacred cow's nipple. There is absolutely no other rationale behind this. They don't even like Kyrgios. When you actually like someone, you like them for what they are. And Nick is a cheap-shot artist. On and off the court. Funny and talented. And cracked alright.

But they don't see him as a human being. They see him as another maniac Fedfan that needs to be defended at all cost.

It's a fucking sect.

Fair enough, it's usually the benthos of the Fedfan manure. But I'm seriously FED up with these morons. They're the definitive downside of the current tennis. They're stupider than the dumbest of the football crowds.

Maybe Djokovic should get new pills instead seeing as he can barely beat a 38 year old? Yeah, we can all see you're FED UP. Your Federer hate is visible in all your drivel posts. I'd feel bad too and embarrassed if my favourite player was being spanked or taken to the brink often by a grandad and then claiming how amazing said 32 year old in his prime is and rambling on about his amazing skills and h2h making a mockery of a 38 year except, wait, none of it is true actually other than in your own little delusional world.

Djokovic barely has a h2h advantage over a geriatric and it took till the guy was well over the hill for him to get the edge. Suggest new anti delusional pills and anti depressants.

 

[Front242]

The premise.of my post is that you should answer the question and quit all the BS about you are too busy. Heck man, we all are busy but you make it seem like you are Jeff Bezos..Just answer to the poster's inquiry and move on. Nobody cares about all the other " noise" about your daily activities.

No. Actually you embarrass not only yourself but the Nadal fans by association with your drivel. Someone says they're busy and you reply that they work in McDonald's and use steroids. Wtf is that garbage? Then you tell people they write garbage posts. What a fucking revelation. I took a few minutes off my busy work there to answer your tripe but back to work now. Got more burgers to flip.

 

[backhandslapper]

A apologize for fazing this retard so badly. I should have known he's insane. And reading his attempt at sarcasm, I'm starting to believe he operates the dishmachine.

 

[mrzz]

This dick-measuring contest is so sad.

Yeah, I really don't see the point in all this guys fighting for second place.

 

[the AntiPusher]

No. Actually you embarrass not only yourself but the Nadal fans by association with your drivel. Someone says they're busy and you reply that they work in McDonald's and use steroids. Wtf is that garbage? Then you tell people they write garbage posts. What a fucking revelation. I took a few minutes off my busy work there to answer your tripe but back to work now. Got more burgers to flip.

Nothing wrong with flipping burgers, I did it when I was 16 years old at Burger King and 17 years old at McDonald's.19 years old I was working at AT&T as a computer software programmer. Again..my point is you are not that busy and probably spend more time in the gym showers with the boys talking shit about Rafa then actually working out.