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RE: WTA News and Gossip 2016

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Sure they were. Believe what you want, most people realize it's bs. Just 'cos the authorities bought some silly lies that they "needed" these drugs 'cos of some extremely debilitating condition (my arse) does not mean they were legit reasons and it just shows how pathetic the tennis authorities are to allow it happen. Bottom line, they don't give a $h1t when these players make them filthy rich. That Sjogren's syndrome is the biggest load of crap I've heard in my life. It's pretty clear there's something juicy in Venus' inhaler or she wouldn't be chuffing on it under her towel when losing sets badly and bringing it with her to the bathroom at Wimbledon (illegal incidentally but caught on camera) and coming back and absolutely annihilating her opponent next 2 sets. Must be some groovy stuff in there.

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if you research the drugs mentioned one of them can be used in inhaler form...there is no smoking gun because everything was permitted by ITF And WADA..just a smear campaign by the jealous ruskies..
 

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So can Xenon/Argon gas which are as effective as blood doping and banned but there is no test as they are both undetectable but EXTREMELY effective and fast acting. Funny how Venus got annihilated in the set before and had a few puffs of her magic inhaler and came back like Superwoman.
 

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So can Xenon/Argon gas which are as effective as blood doping and banned but there is no test as they are both undetectable but EXTREMELY effective and fast acting. Funny how Venus got annihilated in the set before and had a few puffs of her magic inhaler and came back like Superwoman.
so everyone who loses first set and win the next two sets is doping ...:huh::lolz:...the russians are trying to link this to pova s appeal..:snicker:laydownlaughing
 

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Also, Serena's TUEs were retroactively dated. Going to be interesting to see them jump to defend that but invariably they will with some more bs.
 

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I wouldn't believe a word that prick Stuart Miller says and his name is on the TUE.
 

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Front242 said:
Also, Serena's TUEs were retroactively dated. Going to be interesting to see them jump to defend that but invariably they will with some more bs.
cortisone shot is not a steriod...just saying
:rolleyes:the drugs mentioned are anti inflammation medication..Patrick said it publicly that she gets a shot for her knee...no secret here.
 

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Care to explain why it's retroactively dated then? There's clearly some abuse of the system going on there for obvious reasons. Stuart Miller is so naive you could tell you had a million different diseases and he'd sign a TUE for any of them. Stan Wawrinka won $3.5 million for his USO title and the tennis anti doping budget is $4 million. That shows what a good job Miller is doing :nono
 

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Care to explain why it's retroactively dated then? There's clearly some abuse of the system going on there for obvious reasons. Stuart Miller is so naive you could tell you had a million different diseases and he'd sign a TUE for any of them. Stan Wawrinka won $3.5 million for his USO title and the tennis anti doping budget is $4 million. That shows what a good job Miller is doing :nono
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/questions-answers/therapeutic-use-exemption-tue#item-728...hope this will help you in your quest to denigrate the sisters..:popcorn
 

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Wow, interesting developments. Obviously, the hacking was motivated to influence Pova's appeal especially coming from Russian Hackers. But, that does not mean others are clean. It may come down to what Jesus said: "Whoever is clean throw the first stone".

As an aside these Russian Hackers are so good (compared to hackers from other countries), I wonder what they are on when hacking? :)
 

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those drugs are painkillers and anti inflammatories...trying to save pova at the sisters expense..no story here.
 

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RE: WTA News and Gossip 2016

tossip said:
Front242 said:
Care to explain why it's retroactively dated then? There's clearly some abuse of the system going on there for obvious reasons. Stuart Miller is so naive you could tell you had a million different diseases and he'd sign a TUE for any of them. Stan Wawrinka won $3.5 million for his USO title and the tennis anti doping budget is $4 million. That shows what a good job Miller is doing :nono
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/questions-answers/therapeutic-use-exemption-tue#item-728...hope this will help you in your quest to denigrate the sisters..:popcorn

Giving this info to Front is about the same as leaving a child in the chocolate factory..God help us all :angel:
 

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http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/hackers-reveal-wada-medical-data-simone-biles-williams/story?id=42067311...another article that exempts the sisters..
 

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the AntiPusher said:
tossip said:
Front242 said:
Care to explain why it's retroactively dated then? There's clearly some abuse of the system going on there for obvious reasons. Stuart Miller is so naive you could tell you had a million different diseases and he'd sign a TUE for any of them. Stan Wawrinka won $3.5 million for his USO title and the tennis anti doping budget is $4 million. That shows what a good job Miller is doing :nono
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/questions-answers/therapeutic-use-exemption-tue#item-728...hope this will help you in your quest to denigrate the sisters..:popcorn

Giving this info to Front is about the same as leaving a child in the chocolate factory..God help us all :angel:

I know all about TUEs already and was always a fan of both of them before but I've since wised up. Enough is enough. There are way too many dodgy circumstances with both of them and everyone chooses to ignore them all.
 

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tossip said:
if you research the drugs mentioned one of them can be used in inhaler form...there is no smoking gun because everything was permitted by ITF And WADA..just a smear campaign by the jealous ruskies..

You know, meldonium was permitted by WADA and the ITF until January, which hasn't stopped you from regularly bragging that "pova" has been doping for ten years... :popcorn
 

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Kieran said:
tossip said:
if you research the drugs mentioned one of them can be used in inhaler form...there is no smoking gun because everything was permitted by ITF And WADA..just a smear campaign by the jealous ruskies..

You know, meldonium was permitted by WADA and the ITF until January, which hasn't stopped you from regularly bragging that "pova" has been doping for ten years... :popcorn
pova was taking meldonium without her doctors prescription or authority from fda,she hid her use of the drug from everyone...the sisters were transparent and the sports authorities gave them authority....pova never applied for TUE because she knew she was doping....no comparison here..this is going to affect her case now,she will not get a reprieve thats for sure.
 

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tossip said:
Kieran said:
tossip said:
if you research the drugs mentioned one of them can be used in inhaler form...there is no smoking gun because everything was permitted by ITF And WADA..just a smear campaign by the jealous ruskies..

You know, meldonium was permitted by WADA and the ITF until January, which hasn't stopped you from regularly bragging that "pova" has been doping for ten years... :popcorn
pova was taking meldonium without her doctors prescription or authority from fda,she hid her use of the drug from everyone...the sisters were transparent and the sports authorities gave them authority....pova never applied for TUE because she knew she was doping....no comparison here..this is going to affect her case now,she will not get a reprieve thats for sure.

She didn't have to get a TUE for meldonium - it was legal...
 

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Kieran said:
tossip said:
Kieran said:
You know, meldonium was permitted by WADA and the ITF until January, which hasn't stopped you from regularly bragging that "pova" has been doping for ten years... :popcorn
pova was taking meldonium without her doctors prescription or authority from fda,she hid her use of the drug from everyone...the sisters were transparent and the sports authorities gave them authority....pova never applied for TUE because she knew she was doping....no comparison here..this is going to affect her case now,she will not get a reprieve thats for sure.

She didn't have to get a TUE for meldonium - it was legal...
dont want to rehash the excepts from her hearing where they described how and when she took the medication during competition...which clearly indicated doping....most of the sisters was out of competition...no story hear just wishful hope and thinking from pova fans..by the way in January 16 meldonium was on the banned list and never asked for TUE..she continued doping.
 

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tossip said:
Kieran said:
tossip said:
pova was taking meldonium without her doctors prescription or authority from fda,she hid her use of the drug from everyone...the sisters were transparent and the sports authorities gave them authority....pova never applied for TUE because she knew she was doping....no comparison here..this is going to affect her case now,she will not get a reprieve thats for sure.

She didn't have to get a TUE for meldonium - it was legal...
dont want to rehash the excepts from her hearing where they described how and when she took the medication during competition...which clearly indicated doping....most of the sisters was out of competition...no story hear just wishful hope and thinking from pova fans..by the way in January 16 meldonium was on the banned list and never asked for TUE..she continued doping.

You're missing the point: it wasn't "doping" until it became illegal - which was January. Your posts have all been bragging about her doping for ten years. And by the way, I agree, there is no story here, with regards to the Russkie hackers, and nor am I a "pova fan..."
 

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My question is why did they only release The Williams Sisters records? I am sure there are other tennis players that were granted TUE for the same substances.
 

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TenFan826 said:
My question is why did they only release The Williams Sisters records? I am sure there are other tennis players that were granted TUE for the same substances.

Provocation? Stir the schitt? Anti-Americanism? Some stoopah backward attempt to defend their own many, many cheats? It's difficult to say what goes through the minds of nationalistic Russians, there's so much slurry and slurp and stink to wade through...
 
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