General Doping/PEDs Discussion

[Murat Baslamisli]

This was at the NY Times today:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/sports/russia-doping-sochi-olympics-2014.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/rio-ban-beijing-samples-1.3585559

Digging back...

 

[dante1976]

Just imagine what would happen if they somehow could retest 60/70/80's Olympics

 

[tossip]

Varvara Lepchenko allegedly tested positive for meldonium..
http://www.sport-express.ru/tennis/wta/news/1001074/

 

[the AntiPusher]

Varvara Lepchenko allegedly tested positive for meldonium..
http://www.sport-express.ru/tennis/wta/news/1001074/

Its in Russian.. Can you translate

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Three days have gone by. Has any one seen Rafa's testing results yet? Just asking.

Be patient, my friend, there's no urgency...

Three weeks have gone by, still no trace of Rafa's testing results. So, is this all an empty talk? uzzled
He got cheap publicity saying he will release it and is now not walking the talk. :cover

 

[Front242]

Marcelo Demoliner, a top 60 ranked doubles player, tests positive for a prohibited substance, (hydrochlorothiazide, a diuretic and masking agent) and gets a whopping 3 month ban. I hope people are now finally beginning to see the ITF are corrupt and cannot be trusted. Why in the name of hell was the ban only 3 months?! I hope in the next few years WADA intervene 'cos this is embarrassing.

http://www.itftennis.com/news/229701.aspx

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

3 month ban ?..lol. why bother at all.

 

[Front242]

3 month ban ?..lol. why bother at all.

Since the ban is just 3 months everyone might as well dope 'cos they clearly don't care :nono

 

[dante1976]

Elizabeth Holmes - 3.6 billion $$$ for a hyped lie

http://www.wired.com/2015/10/theranos-scandal-exposes-the-problem-with-techs-hype-cycle/

That's your "brave new world" out there

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Elizabeth Holmes - 3.6 billion $$$ for a hyped lie

http://www.wired.com/2015/10/theranos-scandal-exposes-the-problem-with-techs-hype-cycle/

That's your "brave new world" out there

Is this about general purpose blood tests that are given to ordinary patients or is this about blood tests conducted for doping detection purposes? uzzled

 

[GameSetAndMath]

The saga of silent ban continues. V. Lepchenko allegedly was put on silent ban due to her positive test for Meldonium , but presumable got released from the silent ban due to smaller levels of Meldonium detected and the confusion over how much time it takes to leave the system.

When the f*** are they going to remove this silent ban phenomena?

She was asked eight times by the Press about her alleged positive test and silent ban and she sais "No Comments" eight times.

Why are the reporters not asking Rafa as to when is he going to honor his commitment that he voluntarily made to release his test results? Are the press doing a good job at it or is this going the way of holding Trump accountable for his sayings? It is now ONE FULL MONTH since Rafa said he wants his results to be released and the ITF/ATP said he may do so by himself as he is in possession of them.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Finally, after so much public outcry and media attention, the Tennis Gods have decided to get rid of Silent Bans Let us :celeb: prematurely as it is still not official and both ATP and WTA boards have not officially approved this yet.

 

[Front242]

Finally, after so much public outcry and media attention, the Tennis Gods have decided to get rid of Silent Bans Let us :celeb: prematurely as it is still not official and both ATP and WTA boards have not officially approved this yet.

Next hurdle is for them to actually give proper sentences to dopers because they are still an embarrassment beyond belief in this aspect. Most get let off the hook as they buy the player's silly lies/excuses and those who actually do get a ban get a mere couple of months.

Rugby player banned for 4 years for testing positive for Nandrolone. This is the way it should be. Proper sentences. Greg Rusedski also tested positive for Nandolone and, guess what, he got no sentence at all. Left off the hook :nono Disgraceful.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/another-welsh-rugby-player-banned-11139080

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Russia to introduce anti-doping lessons to school children :laydownlaughing

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Rafa is not even playing tennis. Just recuperating and relaxing. Yet, he has not found time to release his test results that he promised to do so. It has been about 2 months since he promised. He has not done it by now and I doubt that he will ever do so.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Rafa is not even playing tennis. Just recuperating and relaxing. Yet, he has not found time to release his test results that he promised to do so. It has been about 2 months since he promised. He has not done it by now and I doubt that he will ever do so.

Rafa has an injured wrist, he can't take the risk of during further damaging it further by releasing the test results to appease you.. LOL

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Rafa is not even playing tennis. Just recuperating and relaxing. Yet, he has not found time to release his test results that he promised to do so. It has been about 2 months since he promised. He has not done it by now and I doubt that he will ever do so.

Rafa has an injured wrist, he can't take the risk of during further damaging it further by releasing the test results to appease you.. LOL

I am not the one who is asking him to release it. He is the one who said he will release it.

If he does not want to release that is fine. But, he should not go out and indulge in brave talk saying he wants all his test results be made public. If you cannot walk the walk, at least do not talk the talk. :cover

 

[Kieran]

Now, you're not a stupid person, but you're acting stupid. Rafa never said he'd release his results. He asked the ITF to release them, and they said that he had never failed a test, or served a ban, and that WADA had the results and the ITF can confirm them.

They then said Rafa can release the results himself, but the ITF have given us the substance of the results, which is satisfactory for everybody, except people who want to act stupid about it. You been spamming this thread for ages with this nonsense, knowing that Rafa has been firstly preparing for Paris, and now he's decamped into rehab. He has a trial coming up. The results will be there. They'll be the same results then as they are now.

Chillax and stop being silly about it...

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Now, you're not a stupid person, but you're acting stupid. Rafa never said he'd release his results. He asked the ITF to release them, and they said that he had never failed a test, or served a ban, and that WADA had the results and the ITF can confirm them.

They then said Rafa can release the results himself, but the ITF have given us the substance of the results, which is satisfactory for everybody, except people who want to act stupid about it. You been spamming this thread for ages with this nonsense, knowing that Rafa has been firstly preparing for Paris, and now he's decamped into rehab. He has a trial coming up. The results will be there. They'll be the same results then as they are now.

Chillax and stop being silly about it...

You are now acting stupid. Your initial reaction was "Be patient, Rafa will release them as promised". Now realizing that he may never release, you are trying to rewrite the story.

Rafa asked ITF to release the results, as he wanted his results to become public so that all the unfair accusations about him get cleared once and for all. ITF said they cannot release the results due to rules, but Rafa as an individual has access to his results and he can always release them and there is no prohibition against it. Here is the actual quote of ITF: "Mr Nadal, as all other players who are subject to the TADP, has access to his anti-doping records through WADA's ADAMS (the World Anti-Doping Agency's Anti-Doping Administration and Management System) database and is free to make them available. The accuracy of any such release would be verified by the ITF," it added.


If Rafa was truthful, he could have, would have and should have done so. There are no two ways about it here. You cannot save him by your debating skills and splitting hair. If Rafa did not indulge in the bravado talk, you can say Rafa is under no obligation to release his reults just to appease the detractors and I would agree with you. You cannot talk the talk and not walk the walk. All these information are in digital form and it should not take more than 5 minutes to release them. He or any of his team members could not find 5 minutes over the course of last two months is just BS. They probably have decided not to release them for whatever reasons. :nono