Find a Coach for Andy

[Billie]

Well we don't know the reasons behind Andy's decision, we don't know what the circumstances are. If I were a top male player, I probably wouldn't hire a female unproven coach, but that is just me.

I will say the same thing I said to my friends when Nole lost in Australia under his then new coach, time will tell.

 

[TennisFanatic7]

I think Martina is the only potentially good female coach I can think of for the top guns. She was a fierce competitor, mentally tough, played a good attacking game (even though the game was obviously different), etc.

I doubt she would even take the job if he asked.

Judging from her responses to questions about the possibility of coaching Andy and her comments on twitter it would seem she would have taken the job.

I'm not sold on the Mauresmo appointment but I'm obviously hoping it works out. All I will say is that it was Cahill that suggested Mauresmo. The same guy that told Andy to meet with Ivan.

I didn't know that. I'm probably allowing myself to be more reassured than I should be of that but I suppose I'll take any glimmer of hope in this rather gloomy year of supporting Andy :snigger .

 

[Billie]

^^ That is the spirit TF7. It always amuses me when fans (of any player) are so convinced that they know best what is good for their player. I had many discussions, mostly with Nole fans, regarding the same issue, he should play this tournament, shouldn't play this....he should fire Becker, he should hire this person, he should not get married now, he should..and on and on, as if we had insight into what players really plan and think. But I guess we have to discuss something

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

^ Well, in fairness, you've both made some pretty rude remarks against Becker, as well. If I've been wrong to assume that there's an element of sexism, then forgive me, but in the absence of basically anything else that we know about her, I would say her most prominent feature is that she's a woman, so that's why I inferred that the was the reason for poo-pooing her. Or perhaps it's because she's French?

And she's nourishing, and she has Fairy Liquid soft palms...

Nanette newmans hands were prob supersoft in the horse fillum "international velvet" in 1978..

bet she was doing those mild green fairy liquid "just look at all this extra washing up I never did with one bottle" adverts at the same time.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I still think his biggest problems are mental at the moment, and I think not being Wimbledon champion anymore should help in a way, as he now has less to live up to and less to lose, but as I said, it's up to Andy to sort his head out without relying on a Lendl mk II to do it for him.

That bolded bit can work both ways: Andy is a bit of a moper. He may get despondent as much as spurred on by losing his title, especially the way he lost it (handed it over).

And I'm not sure his only problem is mental. I keep believing I see his movement limited by back pain, and I'm not convinced he's 100% fit after the op. Certainly, it's not so bad as to keep him from playing, but sometimes I suspect that all is not as it should be. By the way, before fastgrass leaps in here complaining, I'm not a Murray fan and so I'm not making excuses. I don't think his back is hindering him, or causing him to lose matches, but I also don't think it's the way it was before the op...

Sometimes fans give (I know you are not one) more excuses than players. In the following
interview Murray clearly says his back was completely fine during both FO and Wimbly .
However, he says his overall physical strength was bit lacking so far; but, claims to be 100% now.

 

[sid]

Word is Andy now 100% again,FO & Wimby he was not,Don't forget Andy had a small OP on his back,that's got 2 take abit to be 100% right.Fingers crossed we can now see the real Murray back on court.

 

[Front242]

Read the interview GSM posted where he says "Over the French Open and Wimbledon my back felt very good. Physically, it was fine." You saw the real Murray physically in the last 2 slams as he said it himself.

 

[sid]

Read the interview GSM posted where he says "Over the French Open and Wimbledon my back felt very good. Physically, it was fine." You saw the real Murray physically in the last 2 slams as he said it himself.

Feeling good is one thing,getting back 100% takes awhile,you know how good Murray is on his real game,just get ready for it.Your a real joker if you think he's done & dusted.

 

[Iona16]

I didn't use Andy's back as an excuse for his Wimbledon defeat. The reason I didn't is because I have no clue how his back feels - I didn't know then and I don't know now. I put the loss down to him playing a bad match. If Andy says he's 100% then great.

However, I do remember him losing to Wawrinka at the US Open last year and he didn't blame any physical problems. A few weeks later he had back surgery. Forgive me if I don't always take Andy at his word.

 

[Front242]

Read the interview GSM posted where he says "Over the French Open and Wimbledon my back felt very good. Physically, it was fine." You saw the real Murray physically in the last 2 slams as he said it himself.

Feeling good is one thing,getting back 100% takes awhile,you know how good Murray is on his real game,just get ready for it.Your a real joker if you think he's done & dusted.

When did I say he was done and dusted? And why the tone calling me a joker?! I merely said he was interviewed and said himself he was 100% physically ok. He clearly didn't play well against Dimitrov but he's said himself he was physically fine. I don't expect him to get much worse personally and can only see him get better. Was simply pointing out that he if he himself says he was physically fine at the French Open and Wimbledon then it's a bit much for you to disagree with him. He himself isn't excusing any losses due to injury but it seems you are.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I didn't use Andy's back as an excuse for his Wimbledon defeat. The reason I didn't is because I have no clue how his back feels - I didn't know then and I don't know now. I put the loss down to him playing a bad match. If Andy says he's 100% then great.

However, I do remember him losing to Wawrinka at the US Open last year and he didn't blame any physical problems. A few weeks later he had back surgery. Forgive me if I don't always take Andy at his word.

Decent players usually don't mention their physical problems during the post match
pressers to avoid giving the impression of not giving credit to the opponent. However,
they invariably mention it after a few days or few weeks. This is the general pattern.
I am not picking on any specific player.

However, the interview that I posted is his recent one. It is actually a good place
for him to mention that his back recovery is not over, if that be the case. Since he
did not do that now, I will take his word. I agree with not taking a players word in
the post match presser though.

 

[Moxie]

I didn't use Andy's back as an excuse for his Wimbledon defeat. The reason I didn't is because I have no clue how his back feels - I didn't know then and I don't know now. I put the loss down to him playing a bad match. If Andy says he's 100% then great.

However, I do remember him losing to Wawrinka at the US Open last year and he didn't blame any physical problems. A few weeks later he had back surgery. Forgive me if I don't always take Andy at his word.

Iona: Is your new avatar that poppy installation at the Tower of London in honor of the fallen at WWI?

 

[Iona16]

I didn't use Andy's back as an excuse for his Wimbledon defeat. The reason I didn't is because I have no clue how his back feels - I didn't know then and I don't know now. I put the loss down to him playing a bad match. If Andy says he's 100% then great.

However, I do remember him losing to Wawrinka at the US Open last year and he didn't blame any physical problems. A few weeks later he had back surgery. Forgive me if I don't always take Andy at his word.

Iona: Is your new avatar that poppy installation at the Tower of London in honor of the fallen at WWI?

It is Moxie. It's only 15% complete. When finished it will feature 888,246 red ceramic poppies, one for each British and Colonial soldier who perished during World War I.

The last poppy will be symbolically planted on the last day of the installation: November 11, Armistice Day. I'll get to pay my respects when I'm in London later this year.

This image caught my eye earlier today. Very sad.

 

[Moxie]

I didn't use Andy's back as an excuse for his Wimbledon defeat. The reason I didn't is because I have no clue how his back feels - I didn't know then and I don't know now. I put the loss down to him playing a bad match. If Andy says he's 100% then great.

However, I do remember him losing to Wawrinka at the US Open last year and he didn't blame any physical problems. A few weeks later he had back surgery. Forgive me if I don't always take Andy at his word.

Iona: Is your new avatar that poppy installation at the Tower of London in honor of the fallen at WWI?

It is Moxie. It's only 15% complete. When finished it will feature 888,246 red ceramic poppies, one for each British and Colonial soldier who perished during World War I.

The last poppy will be symbolically planted on the last day of the installation: November 11, Armistice Day. I'll get to pay my respects when I'm in London later this year.

This image caught my eye earlier today. Very sad.

Oh, dear! (I just saw your above.) Gorgeous installation. London does a really good job at public art.

 

[Iona16]

I didn't use Andy's back as an excuse for his Wimbledon defeat. The reason I didn't is because I have no clue how his back feels - I didn't know then and I don't know now. I put the loss down to him playing a bad match. If Andy says he's 100% then great.

However, I do remember him losing to Wawrinka at the US Open last year and he didn't blame any physical problems. A few weeks later he had back surgery. Forgive me if I don't always take Andy at his word.

Decent players usually don't mention their physical problems during the post match
pressers to avoid giving the impression of not giving credit to the opponent. However,
they invariably mention it after a few days or few weeks. This is the general pattern.
I am not picking on any specific player.

However, the interview that I posted is his recent one. It is actually a good place
for him to mention that his back recovery is not over, if that be the case. Since he
did not do that now, I will take his word. I agree with not taking a players word in
the post match presser though.

It was unlikely that Andy was going to be able to keep back surgery quiet.

I don't think right now would be a good time to say the back recovery wasn't complete. Would it be wise to advertise the fact that you're not 100% when you're about to play 2 masters events and the last slam of the year. I'm not saying I don't believe Andy. If he says he's feeling great then that is very good news.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I didn't use Andy's back as an excuse for his Wimbledon defeat. The reason I didn't is because I have no clue how his back feels - I didn't know then and I don't know now. I put the loss down to him playing a bad match. If Andy says he's 100% then great.

However, I do remember him losing to Wawrinka at the US Open last year and he didn't blame any physical problems. A few weeks later he had back surgery. Forgive me if I don't always take Andy at his word.

Decent players usually don't mention their physical problems during the post match
pressers to avoid giving the impression of not giving credit to the opponent. However,
they invariably mention it after a few days or few weeks. This is the general pattern.
I am not picking on any specific player.

However, the interview that I posted is his recent one. It is actually a good place
for him to mention that his back recovery is not over, if that be the case. Since he
did not do that now, I will take his word. I agree with not taking a players word in
the post match presser though.

It was unlikely that Andy was going to be able to keep back surgery quiet.

I don't think right now would be a good time to say the back recovery wasn't complete. Would it be wise to advertise the fact that you're not 100% when you're about to play 2 masters events and the last slam of the year. I'm not saying I don't believe Andy. If he says he's feeling great then that is very good news.

Andy has said he is now 100% (there is no reason to say so unless you are really 100%;
otherwise, he is playing mind games, which I don't think he indulges in; remember this
is not in answer to a question and so he had always the option of keeping quiet).
Assuming that is true, saying that his back was not completely recovered during
Wimby or FO would not be advertising his weakness. It would just be revealing his
past problems.


p.s. Is your signature also got to do with remembering fallen soldiers?

 

[Iona16]

I didn't use Andy's back as an excuse for his Wimbledon defeat. The reason I didn't is because I have no clue how his back feels - I didn't know then and I don't know now. I put the loss down to him playing a bad match. If Andy says he's 100% then great.

However, I do remember him losing to Wawrinka at the US Open last year and he didn't blame any physical problems. A few weeks later he had back surgery. Forgive me if I don't always take Andy at his word.

Iona: Is your new avatar that poppy installation at the Tower of London in honor of the fallen at WWI?

It is Moxie. It's only 15% complete. When finished it will feature 888,246 red ceramic poppies, one for each British and Colonial soldier who perished during World War I.

The last poppy will be symbolically planted on the last day of the installation: November 11, Armistice Day. I'll get to pay my respects when I'm in London later this year.

This image caught my eye earlier today. Very sad.

Oh, dear! (I just saw your above.) Gorgeous installation. London does a really good job at public art.

It is beautiful and very thought provoking. The poppies will be available to buy at some point. It is hoped that millions will be raised for charity.

 

[Iona16]

I didn't use Andy's back as an excuse for his Wimbledon defeat. The reason I didn't is because I have no clue how his back feels - I didn't know then and I don't know now. I put the loss down to him playing a bad match. If Andy says he's 100% then great.

However, I do remember him losing to Wawrinka at the US Open last year and he didn't blame any physical problems. A few weeks later he had back surgery. Forgive me if I don't always take Andy at his word.

Decent players usually don't mention their physical problems during the post match
pressers to avoid giving the impression of not giving credit to the opponent. However,
they invariably mention it after a few days or few weeks. This is the general pattern.
I am not picking on any specific player.

However, the interview that I posted is his recent one. It is actually a good place
for him to mention that his back recovery is not over, if that be the case. Since he
did not do that now, I will take his word. I agree with not taking a players word in
the post match presser though.

It was unlikely that Andy was going to be able to keep back surgery quiet.

I don't think right now would be a good time to say the back recovery wasn't complete. Would it be wise to advertise the fact that you're not 100% when you're about to play 2 masters events and the last slam of the year. I'm not saying I don't believe Andy. If he says he's feeling great then that is very good news.

Andy has said he is now 100% (there is no reason to say so unless you are really 100%;
otherwise, he is playing mind games, which I don't think he indulges in; remember this
is not in answer to a question and so he had always the option of keeping quiet).
Assuming that is true, saying that his back was not completely recovered during
Wimby or FO would not be advertising his weakness. It would just be revealing his
past problems.


p.s. Is your signature also got to do with remembering fallen soldiers?

I agree I don't think he's one for mind games but I don't think he's foolish either. I think he'd want his fellow pros to think he's 100% I haven't seen any interviews yet but it does seem odd that Andy would talk about how he was feeling without being prompted. As I said I'm not saying I don't believe him. I really, really hope he does feel 100% I'm not sure how often an elite athlete can say that though.

Yes, my signature is one of remembrance.

 

[TennisFanatic7]

If Andy is indeed feeling somehow better now than he was in the previous two slams, then awesome. We'll see though, tough match tomorrow.

 

[sid]

If Andy is indeed feeling somehow better now than he was in the previous two slams, then awesome. We'll see though, tough match tomorrow.

Blasted Nick away today,it's a very good start for Andy @ R/cup