Fed Fans – Roger Federer Talk

[monfed]

Does Fed have a chance of becoming #1 again?

 

[shawnbm]

If he wins Wimbledon and has a superior US hard court season. He likely would have to win the championship in New York as well, but somebody here can tell you exactly.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Novak has almost double the points of Fed at this time. But, this is exactly the point of time when Novak started getting his act together. So, Novak has lots of points to defend starting from this Wimbledon. To begin with, if Fed cannot win Wimbledon, he can forget about #1.
Even if he wins Wimbledon, it is still a long ways away. Novak has to have a miserable rest of the year and Fed needs to have great rest of the year.

The only interesting thing is that if at all Fed becomes #1 (a rather long shot), it will happen so late in the year that Fed will actually end up as the year end #1.

Let us not count the chickens before they hatch. It is too premature to even talk about #1 at this time.

 

[Hamidreza Roohian]

Federer wins the Halle title. He will be going for No.21. He will have the No.2 seed but there is still the chance that he plays Rafa in semis if stars align for the spaniard as well. Where do you think their rivalry is at this point? Who will have the mental edge at Wimbledon and how much we can read into The french open loss. If you are interested here is my take on the rivalry. Cheers.

http://us.blastingnews.com/sports/2...dal-beats-him-at-roland-garros-002934091.html

What is your take?

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Congratulations to Federer on 2 La Decimas in the past month... a 10th title in Halle and a 10th loss to Rafa in slams... B-)

 

[shawnbm]

Congratulations to Federer on 2 La Decimas in the past month... a 10th title in Halle and a 10th loss to Rafa in slams... B-)

Now that was funny, you gotta admit! Roger has lost to Nadal 6 or 7 of those 10 at RG, no? I know once on grass and at least twice at the AO.

 

[DarthFed]

Now that was funny, you gotta admit! Roger has lost to Nadal 6 or 7 of those 10 at RG, no? I know once on grass and at least twice at the AO.

I won't admit anything to the sensitive little Nad tard. But yes it is 6 at RG and then 1 disaster at Wimbledon and 3 weak losses at AO.

 

[shawnbm]

The reality is that if Nadal had made it to more hard court slams earlier, there may have been a difference, particularly before 2008. But, we will never know. It would have likely been very different if Federer weren't the greatest clay court player in the world for about six years outside of Nadal. If he had fallen short of all of those finals in Paris, the record would be closer or he may have dominated Nadal more on hard courts even back then. It is all conjecture, as it could have gone the other way even though I doubt it. Roger would not be one to want his major record to NOT include all those finals losses to Nadal in Paris--they demonstrate he was a complete player and won across all surfaces and went to a record number of consecutive major finals not once, but twice! These are all compelling stats for him. Rafael Nadal on clay is other-worldly and he just proved it again. He could win three or more of these at this rate. It is a beautiful thing, for Federer was so superior to everyone for so long he may have had two calendar year slams and 23 majors or whatever if Nadal had not come along. Superman met his kryptonite.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Rafa has made 9 hardcourt slam finals, so sometimes he was the one waiting and it's Federer who didn't make it. Also even though Rafa starting winning RG in 2005 at 19, it was rather an exception. For example Federer only made his first slam final at 22 yet you expect Rafa to have made finals on all surfaces between 2005-2007 before 22 and blame him for not reaching Federer. When compared at the same age Rafa was already making clay & grass slam finals before Federer reached any final! And soon after Rafa started reaching hardcourt finals. So just because Rafa started winning RG at an early age doesn't mean that he sucked to have not made hardcourt finals at 19-21 too cause Federer wasn't making ANY slam finals during that age.

 

[shawnbm]

I am not being critical of Rafa, Nadalfan--he is a tremendous player and talent. I like him and used to live in Spain so I have a special spot for him. But, these are the intangibles. Rafa is like Borg in that he was a freak who won early and often, unlike most greats in the game. I know Rafa has made hard court slam finals and lost to Nole and Stan and Roger in them in Australia and has won three in New York. I am aware of his prowess. I was only responding to what was posted above--Roger's peak was earlier and Rafa's later, but both have lasted far longer than expected. There is no way of knowing who would have done what, that is all I was saying. Unless someone comes along that can outgrit Nadal on clay, I truly believe he could win it at least twice or perhaps three more times! Why not?

 

[Nadalfan2013]

I am not being critical of Rafa, Nadalfan--he is a tremendous player and talent. I like him and used to live in Spain so I have a special spot for him. But, these are the intangibles. Rafa is like Borg in that he was a freak who won early and often, unlike most greats in the game. I know Rafa has made hard court slam finals and lost to Nole and Stan and Roger in them in Australia and has won three in New York. I am aware of his prowess. I was only responding to what was posted above--Roger's peak was earlier and Rafa's later, but both have lasted far longer than expected. There is no way of knowing who would have done what, that is all I was saying. Unless someone comes along that can outgrit Nadal on clay, I truly believe he could win it at least twice or perhaps three more times! Why not?

I also like swiss chocolate so I have a special spot for Federer. :heart:

Anyways, I can't wait for Wimbledon... This Rafa/Roger discussion is interesting, but this is the Fedtalk thread so I will digress.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

could fedster be no1 rank again ?..why not, it could happen.

 

[Hamidreza Roohian]

could fedster be no1 rank again ?..

why not, it could happen.

Yes, he could. It depends on Novak in my opinion. Rafa lost a lot of clay court tournaments, so he will be out of the contention I believe. If Roger wins Wimbledon, we can really think about that. Otherwise, it's not going to happen. The good thing is, if he becomes no.1, it would be later in the year, so he will end the year as No.1 as well.

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

Djokovic is playing Tokyo Open to prepare for next year's Olympics I'm assuming

I wonder if Federer should do the same?

 

[britbox]

Best Tennis Advice your Mum gave you.

"Never let the ball bounce twice". :whistle:

 

[brokenshoelace]

Best Tennis Advice your Mum gave you.

"Never let the ball bounce twice". :whistle:

Now imagine how many more majors he would have won if they allowed on court coaching.

 

[Front242]

Now imagine how many more majors he would have won if they allowed on court coaching.

Imagine how many more he'd have won if he never got tired.

 

[Hamidreza Roohian]

Fedal looks inevitable! Right now I wish Roger hadn’t played Rafa in French but still my logic tells me he should be fine.
https://us.blastingnews.com/sports/...the-surface-makes-a-difference-002944359.html

 

[DarthFed]

Fedal looks inevitable! Right now I wish Roger hadn’t played Rafa in French but still my logic tells me he should be fine.
https://us.blastingnews.com/sports/...the-surface-makes-a-difference-002944359.html

Yes I think it was an obvious mistake. He hasn't had to work too hard yet but not having the extra energy in reserve could come back to bite him. People make a big deal out of his supposed clay success but his results were QF, QF, SF. The fact that people think that is good shows that he shouldn't have wasted energy on the surface to begin with and handing an easy as cake win to Nadal.

 

[shawnbm]

I think you showed he is still one of the top click or players in the world and we really did not get a good look at how he would fare against Nadal on the clay courts because of those conditions. And conditions like that, playing like Nadal please just is going to be more productive and less prone tonUFEs. Serving to get the upper hand in a point is what Roger needs to do and the wind plays with the toss and efficacy of the service. He relies on timing and taking the ball on the rise more so than Rafa so there is an impact there as well. I think he will rarely beat Nadal on clay anyway so playing the dirt was good for being competitive and for earning a lot of points compared to last year.

As for Wimbledon, I think the loss in Paris will have a minimal effect. Roger like he feels much more comfortable on the surface and he knows Rafa can’t play the same way he does at Roland Garros—you can’t play that way and win on grass. For that reason Rafa has moved up a lot on ROS and is trying to shorten points when he can. He’s playing aggressively which is rewarding on grass. It also opens him up to more errors and in having to press more than he cares to. Federer can play the match like he usually does and his backhand should be much more effective on grass in ROS and in . His forehand and service will be even more damaging than on the clay. I think Roger knows he should be able to take out Nadal on this surface and winning all those hard court matches will be a good template to rely on and try to replicate. It should be a good one as long as neither suffers an upset today.