Fed Fans – Roger Federer Talk

[Fiero425]

@shawnbm wrote: …..Rafa can’t play the same way he does at Roland Garros—you can’t play that way and win on grass.

^^^But that's exactly what Rafa and other players are doing at the moment; playing the grass, which is so slow as if playing on clay!

 

[Hamidreza Roohian]

I think you showed he is still one of the top click or players in the world and we really did not get a good look at how he would fare against Nadal on the clay courts because of those conditions. And conditions like that, playing like Nadal please just is going to be more productive and less prone tonUFEs. Serving to get the upper hand in a point is what Roger needs to do and the wind plays with the toss and efficacy of the service. He relies on timing and taking the ball on the rise more so than Rafa so there is an impact there as well. I think he will rarely beat Nadal on clay anyway so playing the dirt was good for being competitive and for earning a lot of points compared to last year.

As for Wimbledon, I think the loss in Paris will have a minimal effect. Roger like he feels much more comfortable on the surface and he knows Rafa can’t play the same way he does at Roland Garros—you can’t play that way and win on grass. For that reason Rafa has moved up a lot on ROS and is trying to shorten points when he can. He’s playing aggressively which is rewarding on grass. It also opens him up to more errors and in having to press more than he cares to. Federer can play the match like he usually does and his backhand should be much more effective on grass in ROS and in . His forehand and service will be even more damaging than on the clay. I think Roger knows he should be able to take out Nadal on this surface and winning all those hard court matches will be a good template to rely on and try to replicate. It should be a good one as long as neither suffers an upset today.

ABout the hard court matches, I would love to agree with you but the fact that they are almost two years back, and Nadal having changed his Backhand for good, keeps me from really believing anything like a beatdown would be on the cartds.

 

[tented]

 

[shawnbm]

ABout the hard court matches, I would love to agree with you but the fact that they are almost two years back, and Nadal having changed his Backhand for good, keeps me from really believing anything like a beatdown would be on the cartds.

Make No mistake, I believe Rafael Nadal wins in four sets based on form and his having La Calma.

 

[MartyB]

Since the victory at the AO Fed has proven off of clay he is the dominant player over Nadal. It is quite an amazing turnaround in this rivalry. In many ways this victory is such an important one in this rivalry it affects tennis history.

 

[shawnbm]

Boy, was I wrong. Federer amped his level up and was too much for Nadal

 

[Hamidreza Roohian]

How did Djokovic turn the match around?

http://us.blastingnews.com/opinion/2019/07/3-reasons-why-djokovic-won-wimbledon-2019-002948129.html

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

Federer skipping Montreal.

Djokovic probably assured of another YE#1

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Apparenlty, Federer is Fed is "play testing" Wilson Clash racquet . Not sure how serious is he about changing to it. Any change, if it happens, will not be this year.

 

[DarthFed]

Apparenlty, Federer is Fed is "play testing" Wilson Clash racquet . Not sure how serious is he about changing to it. Any change, if it happens, will not be this year.

I like it, he held onto the old racquet too long and the new one helped. Keep testing out new ones I say, anything to get back to a great level. He was almost there as we know.

 

[shawnbm]

Federer is already there--he's won three slams in the last two years. He held championship points for his fourth major in that period against the top ranked player and if he had hit a first service it may have happened. Tough luck--he should have won, but he is playing at a high level and dismissed his old nemesis again, so he is doing okay for a 38 year old (in two weeks). He is a threat (as always) in New York. It would be really something if he drove deep there this year after a disappointing last two years there.

 

[DarthFed]

Federer is already there--he's won three slams in the last two years. He held championship points for his fourth major in that period against the top ranked player and if he had hit a first service it may have happened. Tough luck--he should have won, but he is playing at a high level and dismissed his old nemesis again, so he is doing okay for a 38 year old (in two weeks). He is a threat (as always) in New York. It would be really something if he drove deep there this year after a disappointing last two years there.

But they aren't playing horseshoes or grenades. It's been 1.5 years for Fed and this Wimbledon was the first time in 5 majors that he even made the final. Anyways when it comes to the Big 3 it's simple, if they don't win a slam in a year it is not a good season. I remember people on here arguing that point in 2014 and 2015 saying Roger was playing great tennis. Silly stuff, these guys don't get excited over going 6-1 at a major. For all the talk of Roger's supposed great play this year he is a pedestrian 14-3 at majors and has won 1 of 7 big events. He is playing well for a 38 year old, that's it.

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

Federer should reconsider his plan of skipping Montreal.
With Djokovic not playing he could gain 1000 points there and it is better practice for USO anyway.

 

[DarthFed]

Federer should reconsider his plan of skipping Montreal.
With Djokovic not playing he could gain 1000 points there and it is better practice for USO anyway.

It is an interesting call, on one hand he is much stronger at Cincy and has a better chance of winning the tournament and possibly securing the 2 seed at USO depending on how Nadal does. But you are right that it plays a lot more similar to the US than Cincy does and it'd give him an extra week off to rest/prepare. One thing is for sure...can't play both and if he chose to do Montreal he better come prepared and not just show up barely ready like in 2017.

With that said I doubt he goes back on that decision. He likes Cincy a lot more given his history there and as long as Nadal doesn't win Montreal, Roger would have a chance at the 2 seed so it'd be a lot to play for.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

DarthFed is by far the best Federer fan. He likes Federer but at least realizes that Federer is not some perfect God who can do no wrong. He also sees how Nadal and Djokovic are up there with him and how they are a threat. Meanwhile other Federer fans are so in love with their player that any criticism or threat to him are met with anger, attacks and insults. They love Federer so much to the point of having no logic and thinking that he is some incomparable gift from God.

 

[Fiero425]

It is an interesting call, on one hand he is much stronger at Cincy and has a better chance of winning the tournament and possibly securing the 2 seed at USO depending on how Nadal does. But you are right that it plays a lot more similar to the US than Cincy does and it'd give him an extra week off to rest/prepare. One thing is for sure...can't play both and if he chose to do Montreal he better come prepared and not just show up barely ready like in 2017.

With that said I doubt he goes back on that decision. He likes Cincy a lot more given his history there and as long as Nadal doesn't win Montreal, Roger would have a chance at the 2 seed so it'd be a lot to play for.

I'm glad Nole's cutting back on his schedule! He must want that 2nd Cincy Masters title badly to elevate his resume & complete the circle with a 2nd FO in the next couple seasons! He will be the only player in the game's history who will have won all 14 major tier events twice! Nadal's just scratching to get another AO so he'll be the 1st Double CGS man with a couple Gold Olympic medals! Of Fedalovic, we have to say all have impressive records, and each has something that can't be broken by the other, but it appears to me Nole will wind up with the more complete and rounded resume regardless if he gets to 20+ majors or not! :whistle:

 

[atttomole]

DarthFed is by far the best Federer fan. He likes Federer but at least realizes that Federer is not some perfect God who can do no wrong. He also sees how Nadal and Djokovic are up there with him and how they are a threat. Meanwhile other Federer fans are so in love with their player that any criticism or threat to him are met with anger, attacks and insults. They love Federer so much to the point of having no logic and thinking that he is some incomparable gift from God.

Many Federer fans are objective about Federer. I can see that you rarely visit this forum.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Federer should reconsider his plan of skipping Montreal.
With Djokovic not playing he could gain 1000 points there and it is better practice for USO anyway.

This is interesting especially considering Ralph is defending Montreal. Perhaps Fed should consider it.

Let us say Fed enters Montreal and wins it (by beating Rafa in the finals) and then skips Cincy.

Rafa currently leads Fed by 485 points in the rankings. As Rafa loses 400 points ( he becomes finalist at Montreal as compared to last year's winner) and Fed gains 400 points (fed exchanges being runner up in Cincy of last year to winner in Montreal this year), there would be a 800 point swing in favor of Federer and this would be more than enough to compensate the current lead of Ralph (485 points) thus giving Fed, the #2 seed at USO (if Rafa skips cincy).

If Rafa skips Cincy, this would give Fed #2 seed at USO and if Rafa plays Cincy, Rafa will be toast at USO (independent of seedings) due to overplaying. That would be a lose-lose situation for Ralph.

p.s. However, I don't think Fed will play Montreal. He will just play Cincy as that is his favorite tourney and probably will win it this year (and get #2 seeding at USO as Ralph would lose Montreal even without Fedovic in it, considering Ralph has never defended a title out of clay in his entire career).

 

[atttomole]

This is interesting especially considering Ralph is defending Montreal. Perhaps Fed should consider it.

Let us say Fed enters Montreal and wins it (by beating Rafa in the finals) and then skips Cincy.

Rafa currently leads Fed by 485 points in the rankings. As Rafa loses 400 points ( he becomes finalist at Montreal as compared to last year's winner) and Fed gains 400 points (fed exchanges being runner up in Cincy of last year to winner in Montreal this year), there would be a 800 point swing in favor of Federer and this would be more than enough to compensate the current lead of Ralph (485 points) thus giving Fed, the #2 seed at USO (if Rafa skips cincy).

If Rafa skips Cincy, this would give Fed #2 seed at USO and if Rafa plays Cincy, Rafa will be toast at USO (independent of seedings) due to overplaying. That would be a lose-lose situation for Ralph.

p.s. However, I don't think Fed will play Montreal. He will just play Cincy as that is his favorite tourney and probably will win it this year (and get #2 seeding at USO as Ralph would lose Montreal even without Fedovic in it).

Rafa is not going to be toast. He has the ability to play both Montreal and Cincinnati, and still play well at the US.

 

[Fiero425]

Rafa is not going to be toast. He has the ability to play both Montreal and Cincinnati, and still play well at the US.

Anything's possible, but history tells us differently! Nadal's had some success in the past playing and winning events leading up to USO and finishing it off a couple years ago! The thing is if you look at last year, he bowed out early in each of his major SF matches on HC seeing the handwriting on the wall as well as being "spent" due to being run ragged by NG's Khachanov & Thiem taking him to 5 sets! :whistle: