Covid vaccine - opinions?

[Front242]

 

[Kieran]

Hard to know if we file this one under “lies” or “ignorance”, and hard to know which is worse…

 

[britbox]

Hard to know if we file this one under “lies” or “ignorance”, and hard to know which is worse…

Definitely lies. No doubt about it.

 

[tented]

Hard to know if we file this one under “lies” or “ignorance”, and hard to know which is worse…

It’s a mix, IMO. The scientists lied; the politicIans ignorantly repeated them.

 

[britbox]

It’s a mix, IMO. The scientists lied; the politicIans ignorantly repeated them.

The politicians lied also. They're all puppets.

Quick example (UK Version):

- Gates met with Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings to discuss a response to the "Pandemic".

- Public Information about the meeting was denied after a Freedom of Information Request.

- Cummings blatantly LIED denying the existence of a UK Pandemic Preparedness Plan. There was. There has always been one. A bad strain of Influenza was the hypothetical emergency.

- SARS-Cov2 was downgraded to the same impact as Flu in early 2020. Simultaneously, the UK SAGE Team (advisors on the response) were documented as saying that Fear needed to be increased among the populace. The SAGE team included many Behavioural Psychologists. Some other names were redacted when Freedom of Information requests were put in.

- All alternatives to vaccines dismissed. Great Barrington Declaration dismissed. (Featuring hundreds of thousands of scientists, medic signatories). In favour of Gates' MRNA plan. Gates has no medical qualifications but hey, let's follow the science.

- Use of PCR Test to determine if somebody has a virus. Inventor of the test, Nobel Prize Winner Kary Mullis, said it should never be used to determine if somebody has a virus or is even sick, it just magnifies molecules. UK, USA, AUS, Canada cycling this at way over recommended limits. Mullis said Fauci was a fraud and the CDC had an agenda that real scientists didn't like.

- Mass corruption with Government contracts - not going out to tender.

Not one Freedom of Information Request in multiple western countries relating to an isolated SARS-Coronavirus-2 sample has achieved success.

All dissenting voices in medicine/science censored, removed, defunded.

Politicians knew exactly what they were doing. That includes both the Trump and Biden regimes. On a wider scale, this includes the Brits, China and the EU. The biggest companies funding this - Gates Foundation, Rockefellers, WEF/WHO (check out Klaus Schwab's family background and Bayer and BASF) etc... have a long history of interest in eugenics.

People in the States can keep listening to Rhodes scholars like MSNBC's Maddow as trustworthy "sources" but I suggest you look into the background of Cecil Rhodes (Africa's greatest resource rapist) and his scholarships... or maybe Anderson Cooper and the Vanderbilt dynasty... or Ted Turner (founder of CNN), another depopulation advocate.

People can keep dismissing this stuff, but at some point they will be forced to peek out from under that comfort blanket and start confronting some serious realities. Until then, most people will keep eating noodles and watching Sports and Netflix. If people haven't figured out that major changes are occurring by now, then they're in a very dangerous predicament.

Stop watching the News. Watch the legislation being passed.

 

[britbox]

The targets for Agenda 2030 cannot happen with the current consumption and/or population.

They're all wearing the Agenda 2030 badges.

From the UK angle, Agenda 2030 (The Great Reset) aka The Fourth Technology/Industrial Revolution is detailed in UK Government policy documents.

Regulation for the Fourth Industrial Revolution

www.gov.uk

I keep trying to stick to official Government documents, but it still falls on deaf ears. This was determined before COVID "hit" and names the WEF as the official partner.

Boris was all over depopulation: As was his old man, Stanley who worked for the UN.



As are the WEF...





These people are laughing at you. "The Cattle" that needs a cull. Carrying capacity of the UK? 10-15 million. Matches the now-removed Deagal military defence predictions of 14 million for the UK in 2025.

Deagel.com predicts up to 80% of population culled by 2025 in countries where Europeans live

UK, US, and Germany look to be “epicenters of slaughter” (Updated 4/7/23)

hillmd.substack.com

Bit of a difference to the current 67 million population...

Time for folks to wake up... or they can slumber away to oblivion, mumbling the term "conspiracy theory" (a phrase coined by the CIA) to the grave. You're relying on advice from these people to save Grandma. Seriously.... Yet nobody seems to care less... too entertained by trivial matters (as Huxley predicted), and installing the very SMART slave system voluntarily (to bring Orwell's predictions full circle).

 

[britbox]

Pharmacy: End-time Deception

For thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Revelation 18:23c Revelation 18:23c prophesied of an end-time deception that would sweep…

mshmv.com

 

[Front242]

^ A lot to get through there above and I plan to watch and read all of it when I get the chance but this just sums up of the corruption of the WHO. No more pandemic (it never was a pandemic but anyway) in parts of Africa such as Uganda and Kenya and yet the scumbags at the WHO are still pushing for 70% vaccination rate which really should make any critical thinker wonder about depopulation.

 

[Front242]

 

[Front242]

 

[Front242]

 

[Federberg]

^It's sad because Trump is accountable for a lot of this. If he hadn't politicised this, we would be much further along. The guy took the vaccine for his on personal benefit, but discredited it at the same time. I understand a lot of the scepticism that people have, but it really wasn't necessary

 

[Kieran]

^It's sad because Trump is accountable for a lot of this. If he hadn't politicised this, we would be much further along. The guy took the vaccine for his on personal benefit, but discredited it at the same time. I understand a lot of the scepticism that people have, but it really wasn't necessary

I think Big Pharma politicised it too.

Pfizer and BioNTech Announce Vaccine Candidate Against COVID-19 Achieved Success in First Interim Analysis from Phase 3 Study​

This was announced a few days after the 2020 US Presidential election. They certainly weren’t going to give a Republican anything to crow about, eh?

 

[Federberg]

I think Big Pharma politicised it too.

Pfizer and BioNTech Announce Vaccine Candidate Against COVID-19 Achieved Success in First Interim Analysis from Phase 3 Study​

This was announced a few days after the 2020 US Presidential election. They certainly weren’t going to give a Republican anything to crow about, eh?

not sure that's politicisation. Either you make the announcement way before the election or after. I don't think that was unreasonable. Trump detached himself from the success of his administration in getting Pharma to develop the vaccine. He shouldn't have needed that announcement. He pushed for Operation Warp Speed. But at that point saying anything positive about vaccines was counter to his strategy

 

[Kieran]

not sure that's politicisation. Either you make the announcement way before the election or after. I don't think that was unreasonable. Trump detached himself from the success of his administration in getting Pharma to develop the vaccine. He shouldn't have needed that announcement. He pushed for Operation Warp Speed. But at that point saying anything positive about vaccines was counter to his strategy

I’m not saying he needed the announcement, but that I suspect that the announcement was delayed deliberately so that he couldn’t grab any headlines from it. Either way, I suspect the timing of the announcement was politically chosen, rather than that they just coincidentally happened to be ready soon as all the votes were in…

 

[Front242]

Watch this, especially if you live in the US...
Surprised YouTube left it up but fair play to him for calling out the bs. It's only up 1 hour so we'll see.

 

[Front242]

Case study on the new bilvalent booster. Laughable altogether. Stay unvaxxed if you've any sense. Bit late for that for many I know.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v1.full

"The risk of COVID-19 also varied by the number of COVID-19 vaccine doses previously received. The higher the number of vaccines previously received, the higher the risk of contracting COVID-19 (Figure 2)."

Translation: your immune system is utter dog shit after this crap.

 

[Front242]

I‘m surprised I haven’t had it, especially considering I’ve flown to Florida twice. The first time I wore a mask, the second time I did not. I think I mentioned this somewhere, but my sister drove all around Scotland a couple of months ago with a group of 5 people. Everyone got covid but her. She tested negative, while everyone else was positive and sick. Natural immunity? If so, do I have the same? Who knows.



I’ve had the original two-dose version of the Moderna vaccination, plus a booster. I’m not shocked Big Pharma has suppressed and lied. They certainly did make it seem as if getting the vaccine would a) prevent people from getting it and b) stop transmission. Both lies. I think it was @Front242 who posted a link to a video of a European Commission hearing at which someone from Pfizer admitted they had never even studied transmission before releasing the vaccine.


My father’s wife got the flu about a month ago, and was in bed for nearly a week (she’s 85). My father (88) had the flu shot, and did not get sick. This is opposite to their experience with covid: they were both vaccinated, both got it, and both sick for less than a week (neither bedridden). So, yes, flu presented a bigger problem, and the vaccine actually worked.

Older post I know but was looking for something on this thread and just said I'd reply to this. Very glad they're both ok but the reason they had less of an issue with covid than the flu is because covid is absolutely nothing now since Omicron and for the elderly the flu is clearly worse and the likelihood is the covid vaccine made little or no difference at all since covid is now so weak. Flu shots at least work at times though tons of ppl got their flu shots in my office and many have been out sick mutiple times every year since I worked there. I never got the flu shot and never will and I've never had the flu.

There are tons of people online over 75 who are unvaccinated and state they had covid with practically zero symptoms at all. Healthy lifestyle, vitamins and exercise are way more important than just jabbing ourselves constantly with needles or we risk destroying our immune systems and this is happening to people now from the covid shots. Studies prove it. Just look above at the study I posted. Some have better genetics than others or maybe the ones with poorer outcomes don't lead healthy lifestyles, don't take vitamins or don't take enough and expect that just pumping themselves full of vaccines is enough but there are so many people out sick globally right now and yet the so called health experts (paid off corrupt ones or just plain stupid) were claiming if you don't get vaccinated against covid you run the risk of hospitalization or death. Tons out sick in my office, meanwhile myself and a few unvaxxed guys I'm friendly with there have got attendance awards every year that we've worked there. Working 8 years in my current job and no sick days since joining. It's a farce and a massive global lie. I'll get an extra day of holidays now again shortly for not missing a day last year. So much for the deadly plague killing me! Meanwhile many of the vaxxed and boosted people have been out sick with some out for months who were never out sick like that before. Immune systems destroyed. I read a post on a local forum where a guy said he had a very bad reaction to his first 3 Pfizer shots and yet he "couldn't afford to be sick despite having been very sick after his last 3 shots" and is gearing up for shot number 4 now that they've opened it up for 18-49 years olds.

The mind boggles.

 

[Front242]

 

[Federberg]

what the absolute fuck???