Covid vaccine - opinions?

[Federberg]

More and more scientists are coming out with info like this. You have to ask yourself why? At what point does a rational person start to question the main stream narrative? Just asking for a friend...



And here's the link to the research....

Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults

In 2020, prior to COVID-19 vaccine rollout, the Brighton Collaboration created a priority list, endorsed by the World Health Organization, of potentia…

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[Federberg]

^Let me be clear about what I think has happened. It's both good and bad. Just my opinion, and certainly not some sort of conspiracy tainted thing....

covid-19 pandemic starts. World governments go to Big Pharma looking for a quick vaccine. At this point no one knows how lethal the virus will be. To be fair, based on the lethality of SARS and MERS governments were perfectly reasonable to fear the worst - that covid would be as lethal as SARS and MERS but more virulent. As it turns out, covid was far more virulent but no where near as lethal? Anyway... Big Pharma puts forward a proposal. We'll get you your vaccine, but we need a pass on side effects, and we need to get PAID. Government had no choice but to accept the terms. And we're now where we are.

The news coming out now about boosters is the bad. And thankfully, so far, the bad is not as bad as it could be. From a medical stand point. But from a social stand point... trust in Big Pharma, government and media. This is bad. Really really bad. When people like me start looking sideways at anything on the mainstream media... Houston... we've got a major fucking problem...

But there's also the good. I do believe mRNA is a valid and useful technology. I fully expect that in the coming decades a whole swathe of diseases for which there appears no chance of a cure will become easily fixable. I think we've quietly taken a giant leap in medical technology and we'll look back in the coming decades and acknowledge that.

But will it matter if there is no longer any trust? I'm not so sure. I'm waiting with baited breath to see what States like Florida can find out in discovery when they start challenging Big Pharma and others on what has happened with covid. Progressives and Democrats in general should be very glad that this will happen. Longer term this is the right thing to do. Get all the crap out into the open so that we can all come to a proper understand on what reality and truth are in this hugely important issue...

 

[Federberg]

sigh...

 

[Front242]

^Let me be clear about what I think has happened. It's both good and bad. Just my opinion, and certainly not some sort of conspiracy tainted thing....

covid-19 pandemic starts. World governments go to Big Pharma looking for a quick vaccine. At this point no one knows how lethal the virus will be. To be fair, based on the lethality of SARS and MERS governments were perfectly reasonable to fear the worst - that covid would be as lethal as SARS and MERS but more virulent. As it turns out, covid was far more virulent but no where near as lethal? Anyway... Big Pharma puts forward a proposal. We'll get you your vaccine, but we need a pass on side effects, and we need to get PAID. Government had no choice but to accept the terms. And we're now where we are.

The news coming out now about boosters is the bad. And thankfully, so far, the bad is not as bad as it could be. From a medical stand point. But from a social stand point... trust in Big Pharma, government and media. This is bad. Really really bad. When people like me start looking sideways at anything on the mainstream media... Houston... we've got a major fucking problem...

But there's also the good. I do believe mRNA is a valid and useful technology. I fully expect that in the coming decades a whole swathe of diseases for which there appears no chance of a cure will become easily fixable. I think we've quietly taken a giant leap in medical technology and we'll look back in the coming decades and acknowledge that.

But will it matter if there is no longer any trust? I'm not so sure. I'm waiting with baited breath to see what States like Florida can find out in discovery when they start challenging Big Pharma and others on what has happened with covid. Progressives and Democrats in general should be very glad that this will happen. Longer term this is the right thing to do. Get all the crap out into the open so that we can all come to a proper understand on what reality and truth are in this hugely important issue...

Time will tell but currently mRNA is the likely cause of the majority of excess deaths globally with the UK hitting over 1000 per week which is nuts. Obviously not all those 1000 per week are related to this but when it comes to tons of healthy people suddenly dropping dead the last 2 years, it would seem the obvious reason and it's despicable that it's being ignored by mainstream media, healthcare and governments globally. The 10 year Moderna contract is very bad news.

 

[Front242]

"We had to do everything at risk...."

 

[tented]

I think it was all a moving target, and no one knew exactly. I don't think the scientists lied...that's not a very scientific thing to do, if we're honest. They thought they had a vaccine to stop the spread. I still argue they had a vaccine to curb the spread and also to lessen the symptoms. Not everyone will agree with me on that. But I still don't buy scientists with nefarious reasons to lie. I know many jump to "Big Pharma," but most scientists don't benefit from that.

When doctors from Pfizer testified before a European Commission that they never explored factors which they claimed were true, they lied. Period.

 

[Kieran]

When doctors from Pfizer testified before a European Commission that they never explored factors which they claimed were true, they lied. Period.

I’m sure there are scientists somewhere who have cloned human beings but if you asked them about it, they’d lie and say they haven’t. Of course scientists lie, they’re as human as anyone…

 

[Front242]

I’m sure there are scientists somewhere who have cloned human beings but if you asked them about it, they’d lie and say they haven’t. Of course scientists lie, they’re as human as anyone…

Indeed there are. Check some clone videos on Rumble. No joke.

 

[britbox]

The Babylon Bee always presents a satirical view on things. A ray of humour.

Experts Say They Don't Know What Thing Is Causing Everyone To Suddenly Collapse, But It's Definitely Not That One Thing

U.S. — Medical experts are absolutely stumped as to what could be causing the recent uptick in healthy, young people everywhere that are suddenly collapsing with heart failure. Despite their uncertainty, experts do feel confident that we can rule out that one thing as the culprit.

babylonbee.com

 

[Kieran]

The Babylon Bee always presents a satirical view on things. A ray of humour.

Experts Say They Don't Know What Thing Is Causing Everyone To Suddenly Collapse, But It's Definitely Not That One Thing

U.S. — Medical experts are absolutely stumped as to what could be causing the recent uptick in healthy, young people everywhere that are suddenly collapsing with heart failure. Despite their uncertainty, experts do feel confident that we can rule out that one thing as the culprit.

babylonbee.com

As always with great satire, they speak the truth through humour:

“We can go ahead and rule that thing out right now because Science just called us on the phone and told us not to discuss it. We always follow Science."

 

[Kieran]

Bret Weinstein in conversation with Professor of Evidence Based Medicine, Dr Aseem Malhotra about the negative effects of vaccines: "In the UK, for Pfizer vaccine, there were 500,000 - half a million - adverse events recorded n the Yellow Card scheme, which is unheard of, and people don't fill in these Yellow Card scheme cards or the VARS (sp? USA equivalent) unless there's something significant.."

They discuss why this isn't being openly discussed by the medical profession, and whether the vaccines should be immediately withdrawn..

 

[Front242]

Bret Weinstein in conversation with Professor of Evidence Based Medicine, Dr Aseem Malhotra about the negative effects of vaccines: "In the UK, for Pfizer vaccine, there were 500,000 - half a million - adverse events recorded n the Yellow Card scheme, which is unheard of, and people don't fill in these Yellow Card scheme cards or the VARS (sp? USA equivalent) unless there's something significant.."

They discuss why this isn't being openly discussed by the medical profession, and whether the vaccines should be immediately withdrawn..

The true number is also way higher as only a tiny fraction get filed as it's such a hard system to report on as with VAERS and many doctors in cahoots with Big Pharma or even those who simply couldn't be bothered spending the time reporting them don't file them.

 

[Kieran]

The true number is also way higher as only a tiny fraction get filed as it's such a hard system to report on as with VAERS and many doctors in cahoots with Big Pharma or even those who simply couldn't be bothered spending the time reporting them don't file them.

Well, as I’ve shown before, there’s a very public and brazen attempt by the American department of labour to suppress reports of adverse reactions, which is both a terrifying development - and a sign that they just don’t care if we know they’re doing it…

DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers' vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904's recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination at least through May 2023.

 

[Front242]

Plus the poor sods accounting for excess deaths aren't able to file either if caused by the non vaxx gene therapy.

 

[Front242]

Well, as I’ve shown before, there’s a very public and brazen attempt by the American department of labour to suppress reports of adverse reactions, which is both a terrifying development - and a sign that they just don’t care if we know they’re doing it…

We need look no further than our HSE back home who drive me nuts with the radio at work. Every second advertisement is just about pushing vaccines for flu and covid. "If you're aged between 18-49 you can now get your second covid booster" is their latest and ads for nasal spray vaccines for kids. If they truly cared about health they'd promote healthy living, exercise and vitamins instead but they don't care.

 

[Kieran]

Plus the poor sods accounting for excess deaths aren't able to file either if caused by the non vaxx gene therapy.

Well, in the UK, the site which analyses the adverse reaction reports stated something along the lines that we shouldn’t conclude that the adverse effects are necessarily caused by the vaccine, there could be underlying conditions causing it instead, etc - which, when you think about it, the exact same people were telling us that people were actually dying of covid, and not with covid. Suddenly they’re into making distinctions!

 

[Kieran]

We need look no further than our HSE back home who drive me nuts with the radio at work. Every second advertisement is just about pushing vaccines for flu and covid. "If you're aged between 18-49 you can now get your second covid booster" is their latest and ads for nqsal spray vaccines for kids. How about no thanks and go fuck yourselves and promote healthy living, exercise and vitamins instead. They don't care.

Oh I saw this headline in the newsagents this morning, encouraging people to get their children vaccinated against the flu, and I thought, bastards, leave the children alone!

 

[Front242]

 

[Front242]

No coincidence since the UK have signed a 10 year deal with Moderna for mRNA crap.

 

[Front242]

Dr. Aseem Malhotra made it to BBC news.