Covid vaccine - opinions?

[Kieran]

If you prefer to keep taking endless boosters that's your choice I guess but they're gonna destroy people's immune systems in time. I decided to take one last antigen test today just for the sake of it and ended up testing positive as did our 5.5 year who'll have to stay home from school another week now which sucks 'cos he misses his school. Absolutely nothing at all wrong with us. I did 200 press ups and full of energy. Everyone's immune system is different but I'm reading more and more comments from vaxxed and boosted people who felt quite bad during Omicron and honestly I wouldn't even know there was a single thing wrong with me. Quite possible it's already damaging immune systems or maybe a massive amount of the public are just deficient in vitamin d and other vitamins/minerals whereas I'm pumped full of stuff so I barely notice anything. It could also be both. Can only conclude that my wife who now tested negative yesterday and today was more contagious just before she recovered and we caught it then as this is the way also with other illnesses. I'm happy to have it actually to see how long natural immunity lasts. If Omicron stays the dominant variant and this becomes endemic then most people will just get it again in winter.

I'll lick a door handle for 20 minutes at the local supermarket around September to ensure I have a recovery cert before flying anywhere later in the year. There's no vaccine ever made the stops that common cold but presumably if you had a recent cold even if you end up catching Omicron it'll help even more by reducing the already mild asf symptoms further. This came sooner than expected and was part of the reason I knew vaccination would not be necessary for the majority once it weakened to this extent as it's followed the standard pattern of becoming more transmissible and way less virulent. I thought this might still be a year or two away. The world owes South Africa if things stay now as they are and to think they told the world Omicron was very mild from day one and yet governments, mainstream media and the pharma companies still try and scare the crap of out everyone to push the vaccines. Game over for many and time to end medical apartheid and ditch those discriminating covid certs. I can apply for a recovery cert now but I won't be going to any pubs and using one. I refuse to show papers or a QR code (the mark of the beast) to enter a building that should be simply a case of walking into. If someone asks me to go for a drink, I'll wait till summer or drink outdoors out of principle as those who accept this bs have ruined society.

Will you do a test to get the recovery cert?

Glad you’re both well! It’s not unexpected, but it’s good news anyway…

 

[kskate2]

If you prefer to keep taking endless boosters that's your choice I guess but they're gonna destroy people's immune systems in time. I decided to take one last antigen test today just for the sake of it and ended up testing positive as did our 5.5 year who'll have to stay home from school another week now which sucks 'cos he misses his school. Absolutely nothing at all wrong with us. I did 200 press ups and full of energy. Everyone's immune system is different but I'm reading more and more comments from vaxxed and boosted people who felt quite bad during Omicron and honestly I wouldn't even know there was a single thing wrong with me. Quite possible it's already damaging immune systems or maybe a massive amount of the public are just deficient in vitamin d and other vitamins/minerals whereas I'm pumped full of stuff so I barely notice anything. It could also be both. Can only conclude that my wife who now tested negative yesterday and today was more contagious just before she recovered and we caught it then as this is the way also with other illnesses. I'm happy to have it actually to see how long natural immunity lasts. If Omicron stays the dominant variant and this becomes endemic then most people will just get it again in winter.

I'll lick a door handle for 20 minutes at the local supermarket around September to ensure I have a recovery cert before flying anywhere later in the year. There's no vaccine ever made the stops that common cold but presumably if you had a recent cold even if you end up catching Omicron it'll help even more by reducing the already mild asf symptoms further. This came sooner than expected and was part of the reason I knew vaccination would not be necessary for the majority once it weakened to this extent as it's followed the standard pattern of becoming more transmissible and way less virulent. I thought this might still be a year or two away. The world owes South Africa if things stay now as they are and to think they told the world Omicron was very mild from day one and yet governments, mainstream media and the pharma companies still try and scare the crap of out everyone to push the vaccines. Game over for many and time to end medical apartheid and ditch those discriminating covid certs. I can apply for a recovery cert now but I won't be going to any pubs and using one. I refuse to show papers or a QR code (the mark of the beast) to enter a building that should be simply a case of walking into. If someone asks me to go for a drink, I'll wait till summer or drink outdoors out of principle as those who accept this bs have ruined society.

Sorry you tested positive, but like you said now you'll see how long natural immunity lasts. Drink a lot of fluids, preferably H20 and rest when you're not taking care of the little ones. Keep us informed w/ how the family is doing.

 

[Front242]

Will you do a test to get the recovery cert?

Glad you’re both well! It’s not unexpected, but it’s good news anyway…

Cheers. Asymptomatic! Yeah already done. Have to wait 11 days although I don't plan to use it at all to be honest. I don't agree one bit with them. Absolute nazi bs. The exception POSSIBLY would be if I was overseas but, here at home, no way. I'm hoping now that covid sems to be on the way towards being endemic (if not already hopefully) that the government will ditch those pointless certs. They serve zero purpose since riddled people can walk in without being tested. I won't be catching this again anytime soon so I'm actually now safer than a vaxxed person not being tested.

 

[Front242]

Sorry you tested positive, but like you said now you'll see how long natural immunity lasts. Drink a lot of fluids, preferably H20 and rest when you're not taking care of the little ones. Keep us informed w/ how the family is doing.

Cheers kskate2. Not a single person in the family is sick at all. Asymptomatic here and same with our kids. My wife had just a headache a few days when she was positive and felt a bit weak. Drinking loads of water yup cheers and yesterday I celebrated with alcohol and today again That's how bad I feel. Not a single thing wrong here thankfully. And the number of people on local forums who call healthy people who don't get vaxxed idiots, delusional, gonna take up an ICU bed, etc. My personal favourite comment to read from people justfiying boosters is "I'm so glad I got the booster and the symptoms were mild" when they're talking about the mildest strain yet which is mild for everyone regardless of vaccination status or in the case of 3/4 of us here, asymptomatic for unvaxxed.

These people will have to find something else to moan about soon as more and more scientists are now saying this is over.

 

[Moxie]

Cheers kskate2. Not a single person in the family is sick at all. Asymptomatic here and same with our kids. My wife had just a headache a few days when she was positive and felt a bit weak. Drinking loads of water yup cheers and yesterday I celebrated with alcohol and today again That's how bad I feel. Not a single thing wrong here thankfully. And the number of people on local forums who call healthy people who don't get vaxxed idiots, delusional, gonna take up an ICU bed, etc. My personal favourite comment to read from people justfiying boosters is "I'm so glad I got the booster and the symptoms were mild" when they're talking about the mildest strain yet which is mild for everyone regardless of vaccination status or in the case of 3/4 of us here, asymptomatic for unvaxxed.

These people will have to find something else to moan about soon as more and more scientists are now saying this is over.

So glad you're doing well, Front! And the fam, mostly. But if we're going to share anecdotes, I'll share mine. We postponed Xmas get together due to Omicron. One segment of my family is especially cautious. (I will point out that it is my brother who works in a Harvard medical lab, and has a PhD from Harvard in bio-physics, just to give you his bona fides as to not being just an uninformed freak.) We agreed to get together last weekend, and follow certain protocols. Not to drag out the story, but I drove to 5 hours and tested my other brother. He's pretty isolated, but had been to the hospital for a minor, non-covid thing, and the ER was full of covid patients. To our surprise, he tested positive, and we'll have to postpone again. But here's the deal: we did try to stick to protocols, mostly. My brother, the positive one, had an early Covid, and is 2x vaccinated. I'm multiply vaccinated and boostered. (Remember, I also have 2x trial vaccine, in addition to Moderna 2x + 1 booster of Moderna.) My brother who tested positive has stayed asymptomatic for the past 10 days. He is immunocompromised, has a variety of health issues, (including heart and lung) and neither of us is what you would call young. I stayed asymptomatic, even though I stayed the night, we hung out, though masked and somewhat but not perfectly careful. My point is that: for people like us, I think the protocols and vaccines do work. He was positive, but didn't get sick. I was around him for an extended length of time, but have passed my recent rapid and PCR tests as negative. He didn't give it to me. So, it's nice to be you, and feel young and invulnerable. I think I've said before that I don't feel personally afraid, other than giving it to other people. But for those who have rather more at stake, it seems that vaccines and protocols do work. At the very least, they are worth the effort, if you have more to lose.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Front I am glad you and your family are feeling fine.Best Wishes.

 

[10isfan]

This is a reasonable path going forward. There are now two approved protein subunit vaccines. Nobody can say they were forced to take an mRNA which lacks long term safety data. Contrary to what many believe, vaccines do confer better immunity than infection by Covid. That’s very rare. The Covid virus interferes with the function of memory cells such that immunity isn’t as strong as that elicited by a vaccine.

 

[Front242]

So glad you're doing well, Front! And the fam, mostly. But if we're going to share anecdotes, I'll share mine. We postponed Xmas get together due to Omicron. One segment of my family is especially cautious. (I will point out that it is my brother who works in a Harvard medical lab, and has a PhD from Harvard in bio-physics, just to give you his bona fides as to not being just an uninformed freak.) We agreed to get together last weekend, and follow certain protocols. Not to drag out the story, but I drove to 5 hours and tested my other brother. He's pretty isolated, but had been to the hospital for a minor, non-covid thing, and the ER was full of covid patients. To our surprise, he tested positive, and we'll have to postpone again. But here's the deal: we did try to stick to protocols, mostly. My brother, the positive one, had an early Covid, and is 2x vaccinated. I'm multiply vaccinated and boostered. (Remember, I also have 2x trial vaccine, in addition to Moderna 2x + 1 booster of Moderna.) My brother who tested positive has stayed asymptomatic for the past 10 days. He is immunocompromised, has a variety of health issues, (including heart and lung) and neither of us is what you would call young. I stayed asymptomatic, even though I stayed the night, we hung out, though masked and somewhat but not perfectly careful. My point is that: for people like us, I think the protocols and vaccines do work. He was positive, but didn't get sick. I was around him for an extended length of time, but have passed my recent rapid and PCR tests as negative. He didn't give it to me. So, it's nice to be you, and feel young and invulnerable. I think I've said before that I don't feel personally afraid, other than giving it to other people. But for those who have rather more at stake, it seems that vaccines and protocols do work. At the very least, they are worth the effort, if you have more to lose.

Cheers Moxie. My stance has always and been and will always be that those who want to take them and those more at risk should take them. I've read many posts on YouTube though since Omicron of even healthy people in their 80's and relatives of posters who were even approaching 90 and with underlying issues still not getting sick from Omicron. It's not even close to even a bad strain of the flu it would appear for the majority. I'm not leaving my house till Friday which is over the recommended time and have no intention of giving it to anyone. Even vaxxed and boosted people (if fact mostly vaxxed people from posts I've read and people I know) are transmitting this so the whole issue of passing this to someone is moot since Omicron and people are now only taking these to feel safe and nothing more since it won't stop them catching it or passing it to others. Glad you didn't get it and your family are ok. The mass hysteria for vaccination will stop soon I believe and those who need it will be offered an annual vaccine like the flu if desired is my guess and hopefully the restrictions will then end globally.

Good news for the world and bad news for money grabbing pharma companies. That's why they had a massive push to start jabbing kids 'cos they knew damn well the number was up was they saw the data on Omicron. They've this cash cow to keep going forever more now along with the elderly/immunocompromised.

 

[Front242]

Front I am glad you and your family are feeling fine.Best Wishes.

Cheers Margaret. All still completely asymptomatic. Only my vaxxed wife had symptoms. Go figure Guy on my team in work sounded pissed when I told him there was zero wrong with me and he was quite sick after 3 shots when he caught it around New year. A lot comes down to immune system and supplementation/diet/exercise etc. I haven't been able to go for a walk now for over 2 weeks cos first week I never caught it but stayed indoors as advised and then after deciding to do 1 final 7th antigen test I tested positive (no symptoms still) and now have to stay indoors longer. That's the worst part along with our eldest kid (5.5) missing school another week. No symptoms either like me. I'm going for a nice 2.5 hour walk on Saturday for sure depending on the weather! And can't wait for some fresh air. The weather was lovely yesterday but only went to the garden a few mins. Hardly same thing.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Cheers Margaret. All still completely asymptomatic. Only my vaxxed wife had symptoms. Go figure Guy on my team in work sounded pissed when I told him there was zero wrong with me and he was quite sick after 3 shots when he caught it around New year. A lot comes down to immune system and supplementation/diet/exercise etc. I haven't been able to go for a walk now for over 2 weeks cos first week I never caught it but stayed indoors as advised and then after deciding to do 1 final 7th antigen test I tested positive (no symptoms still) and now have to stay indoors longer. That's the worst part along with our eldest kid (5.5) missing school another week. No symptoms either like me. I'm going for a nice 2.5 hour walk on Saturday for sure depending on the weather! And can't wait for some fresh air. The weather was lovely yesterday but only went to the garden a few mins. Hardly same thing.

Our children here school age are going back to school in two weeks,end of summer holidays our NSW government is supplying them all with free RAT tests,as they are saying we all have to live with Omicron which is now declining in numbers here in NSW.

 

[britbox]

If you prefer to keep taking endless boosters that's your choice I guess but they're gonna destroy people's immune systems in time. I decided to take one last antigen test today just for the sake of it and ended up testing positive as did our 5.5 year who'll have to stay home from school another week now which sucks 'cos he misses his school. Absolutely nothing at all wrong with us. I did 200 press ups and full of energy. Everyone's immune system is different but I'm reading more and more comments from vaxxed and boosted people who felt quite bad during Omicron and honestly I wouldn't even know there was a single thing wrong with me. Quite possible it's already damaging immune systems or maybe a massive amount of the public are just deficient in vitamin d and other vitamins/minerals whereas I'm pumped full of stuff so I barely notice anything. It could also be both. Can only conclude that my wife who now tested negative yesterday and today was more contagious just before she recovered and we caught it then as this is the way also with other illnesses. I'm happy to have it actually to see how long natural immunity lasts. If Omicron stays the dominant variant and this becomes endemic then most people will just get it again in winter.

I'll lick a door handle for 20 minutes at the local supermarket around September to ensure I have a recovery cert before flying anywhere later in the year. There's no vaccine ever made the stops that common cold but presumably if you had a recent cold even if you end up catching Omicron it'll help even more by reducing the already mild asf symptoms further. This came sooner than expected and was part of the reason I knew vaccination would not be necessary for the majority once it weakened to this extent as it's followed the standard pattern of becoming more transmissible and way less virulent. I thought this might still be a year or two away. The world owes South Africa if things stay now as they are and to think they told the world Omicron was very mild from day one and yet governments, mainstream media and the pharma companies still try and scare the crap of out everyone to push the vaccines. Game over for many and time to end medical apartheid and ditch those discriminating covid certs. I can apply for a recovery cert now but I won't be going to any pubs and using one. I refuse to show papers or a QR code (the mark of the beast) to enter a building that should be simply a case of walking into. If someone asks me to go for a drink, I'll wait till summer or drink outdoors out of principle as those who accept this bs have ruined society.

You can just change habits mate and get more creative. The "Old Normal" is never coming back. That doesn't mean you have to accept the "New Normal" drawn up at Davos... which I suspect succeeds briefly, but ultimately fails catastrophically.

 

[Front242]

Good day here anyway with almost all restrictions now gone including those useless covid passes. I just hope they're gone for good and won't be brought back in winter just in time for a new scariant. Worst thing though is we'll probably get an email on Monday saying we're all back in the office from start of Feb I guess At least we've hybrid 3 days in the dump office and 2 at home from now on so could be worse.

 

[Front242]

Meanwhile, scum police in Australia. A 46 year old woman is arrested for not showing her vaccine passport. Wtf ?! Guess they don't realize the vaccines don't stop transmission against Omicron. No wonder it's an anagram of Moronic...

 

[Jelenafan]

I'm getting retested tomorrow, it's been months since my last test. Here's the thing, my wife is visiting her parents next week who are both in their 90's so it's more about not unnecessarily putting them at risk. Needless to say, they have underlying conditions.

 

[britbox]

Meanwhile, scum police in Australia. A 46 year old woman is arrested for not showing her vaccine passport. Wtf ?! Guess they don't realize the vaccines don't stop transmission against Omicron. No wonder it's an anagram of Moronic...

This other cop is facing three criminal charges.

 

[Front242]

This is a reasonable path going forward. There are now two approved protein subunit vaccines. Nobody can say they were forced to take an mRNA which lacks long term safety data. Contrary to what many believe, vaccines do confer better immunity than infection by Covid. That’s very rare. The Covid virus interferes with the function of memory cells such that immunity isn’t as strong as that elicited by a vaccine.

Actually they can't possibly know how long natural immunity lasts from Omicron given it's such a new variant. Since the symptoms are so weak many people won't be one bit afraid of catching it either. Current vaccines also do sfa against Omicron which is why so many are catching it. Also remains to be seen how many of the new protein based vaccines will be required or whether they're gonna require endless top ups like the others which really can't be good for the immune system at all. I'd rather get a terrifyingly scary runny nose or headache any day personally but that's just me. Already tested positive for Omicron with zero symptoms and unvaxxed since covid came along. I don't know any unvaxxed person who had it badly but know plenty of vaxxed and boosted who have so the vaccines appear to be causing some degree of ADE which was warned by many a long time ago. Luckily for all I guess it'll still be mild but I know people who were sick a week and out of work whereas I had zero symptoms whatsoever and same with our 2 kids. My vaxxed wife while still more or less fine had general aches and pains, weakness, fatigue and took cold and flu tablets before bed a few times. Still hardly anything major but it comes down to your immune system and not your vaxx status. She has very low vitamin d which has been linked to poorer outcomes for covid whereas mine is very high. I posted a link to a study in the covid thread showing 82.2% of those worse affected by covid had low vitamin d. Here it is again. https://www.healthline.com/health-n...of-covid-19-patients-were-vitamin-d-deficient

Given no current vaccines stop transmission of Omicron it's ludicrous to only allow vaxxed players play. Anyone who doesn't have covid should be allowed play and test them daily regardless of vaxxed status since it's irrelevant and moot for Omicron.

 

[Front242]

 

[El Dude]

Some rather concerning points from Alex Berenson:

AN URGENT WARNING

The world's most mRNA vaccinated countries now have shockingly high Covid infection rates. Hospitalizations and deaths are rising fast too. The mRNA experiment needs to stop. Immediately.

alexberenson.substack.com

 

[El Dude]

Quebec is absurd:

Quebec: Unvaxxed Must Be 'Accompanied At All Times' by Store Escort Upon Entering Walmart, Costco to Use Pharmacy

Quebec's new insane vaccine passport scheme banning the unvaccinated from big-box stores like Walmart and Costco provides exceptions only for 'groceries and pharmacies,' th

www.informationliberation.com

 

[tented]

Some rather concerning points from Alex Berenson:

AN URGENT WARNING

The world's most mRNA vaccinated countries now have shockingly high Covid infection rates. Hospitalizations and deaths are rising fast too. The mRNA experiment needs to stop. Immediately.

alexberenson.substack.com

What’s so concerning? It’s well-known the vaccines were developed before omicron, therefore don’t have any effect on it, hence that variant has been able to spread more quickly with nothing to stop it. So, what’s the surprise? It’s like expressing dismay that banks are still being robbed when only two of the three well-known bank robbers have been caught. Well, yeah – the other one is still at large, free to continue robbing.