It is a fact at least in the Open Era. Moxie, do you know the last player to win his 1st Major then on the very next slam, he went on to reach the final?
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Apparently, you didn't see him play Khachanov, where he played great. And maybe you missed all of the 2020 USO, where Thiem won and never found anything like his A game. Don't be so sour.I w/b quite disappointed if the tour allows Nadal to even get a sniff of the final playing like this! It'll show how pathetic they are if it happens!
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Nope…the answer is Andy Murray.
Murray won the 2012 US Open against Djokovic then went on to reach the 2013 AO Final but losing to Djokovic.
Medvedev has the same path but of course he is not facing Djokovic in this year’s AO.
I will not try to look far ahead but can you imagine the pressure that Medvedev will feel and face if he were to meet Nadal in the final?
However, if he does win the AO title against Nadal here are the potential accomplishments from him:
- A second straight slam for him (Open Era record)
- denying a Big Three member of winning his 21st slam (B2B slams too!)
- beating Djokovic AND Nadal in consecutive Slam finals (will be the first player to do so).
-Finally, becoming the first male player since Andy Roddick to become number 1 player not named Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray.
A LOT of pressure but A LOT of accomplishments to gain for him.
Long ways to go though…
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Murray was my other pick, but you did say "very" recent. I figured it was a USO winner, and I knew they'd both been in AO finals. At least you can see I didn't google it.
I knew it wasn't Stan, because he lost round one of the FO in 2014, I remember that sad fact. There weren't that many people to consider. I thought of Cilic, but didn't think it was him. Fun trivia question!
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Well i can see his point on the one level as Nadal i thought did not close out his third round match convincingly, where he held a number of break-points near the end and squandered those. But his sheer longevity and experience is what i reckon will get him through his remaing matches, only 9 sets to go that puts him past Novak and Roger.
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Really?!?? I can't believe Mats would feel that way. I idolized him, Edberg and Borg as a kid way back when. Did Mats substantiate his "Rafa should Retire" comment with some facts? Otherwise he looks like he's got egg on his head as Nadal, to me looks like he can go another 2-3 more years on the tour
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Well, he didn't have his best level yesterday, but, as Navratilova and Evert both like to remind us: as you get older, you have days when you're not feeling it, for no good reason. I hope his "flat" day is past him now, as I don't think he can afford another one. But he did win, in 3. I'll point out that Zverev had an unexpectedly flat day yesterday, and he's only 24. And he didn't find a way to win. Obviously, Mannarino is no Shapovalov, but clearly Zverev is no Rafael Nadal. Wertheim just called that AZ performance as "unexpectedly vacant."
But speaking of that Nadal match, did you make the thread for the TB? It was a great one, and I was thinking we could also use it to discuss the pros and cons of TBs at Majors, because a few people have expressed displeasure at them in the past few days, and it needs a thread to discuss, I'd say.
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AWMoxie, yeah i put a topic with the tiebreak but have ended up with egg on me face over this . It appears the video on the Wide World of Sports youtube channel ( a Channel 9 offshoot)
is only available in AU. Really disappointed as that tiebreaker was one for the ages. We may never see a tiebreak like it again, or for a long time.
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No egg! That "unavailable in your area" happens to all of us. I didn't mind when I saw that, because, like Margaret, I wasn't emotionally ready to watch that again. But some are calling it one of the great TBs of all time. I'll DM you...I found something. I still want that thread.
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Sinner, yes. 80-90% chance. DeMinaur's biggest weapon is the Aussie crowd, but Sinner has a strong head. FAA v. Cilic? The way Cilic has played the last couple of rounds? If both play the way they played the last round, (and FAA looked great,) I'd make it 50-50. I think Felix is more talented, TBH, but he has SO much less experience at this altitude. I give him an overall 40% chance of going through. My opinion.
Thanks! The reason I asked is because if both FAA/Sinner advances, Monday night in the US could be fun: Sinner/Tsitsipas and FAA/Medvedev
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Matts changes his mind like the wind,I do not like him as a commentator either,sorry I never liked him at all,Borg was my first tennis idol,didnt mind Edberg either.I take no notice of Matt he can be delusional at times.Matts thought at Rafa's age he should retire?Really?!?? I can't believe Mats would feel that way. I idolized him, Edberg and Borg as a kid way back when. Did Mats substantiate his "Rafa should Retire" comment with some facts? Otherwise he looks like he's got egg on his head as Nadal, to me looks like he can go another 2-3 more years on the tour
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As opposed to DeMinaur/Tsitsipas, and Cilic/Medvedev? That assumes that the Greek and the Russian get through. You want "fun" in the US on Monday night? Tsitsipas and Medvedev both play Americans today. What if Fritz and/or Cressy win? Now THAT could be a fun night in the US on Monday. Think about that!
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The reason I say Tuesday night in the US because I live in the US and the QF in the bottom half will be Tuesday night here. My fault saying Monday night
Also, we talked about on how the future of tennis will look like when the Big Three are gone then why not have the young players (FAA/Sinner) square off against two of the top 4 players (Medvedev/Tsitsipas) on a QF stage of a slam?!
As for Fritz, if he wins against Tsitsipas, then it will be good for him. He is a cool guy but his game doesn't really move that much. Also, the way he played against Djokovic last year in the AO after Djokovic got injured was not good. It kinda left a bad taste in my mouth.
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You'd have to remind me what he did against Djokovic at the AO last year. And just a question: how injured WAS Djokovic in the AO last year, since he won it?
He was playing well and had a two sets to one lead over Djokovic. Then, the moment Djokovic broke his serve late in the 4th Set, he just went haywire and just completely lost the plot! Then, he had the audacity to say in the press conference that Djokovic was “over-exaggerate” the ab injury. In my head, I was thinking, even if Djokovic was exaggerating the injury, you have the chance to beat an injured player on the court! Saying that a player was over exaggerating an injury while failing to capitalize the situation is bad mentality, in my opinion.
In my opinion, I do think he was injured against Fritz but I think he exaggerated the severity of the injury after the match.
Either way, Fritz and the other players had a chance to beat Djokovic but they did not do it.
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