2022 Wimbledon F: Djokovic vs. Kyrgios

[MargaretMcAleer]

I'd be delighted if Kyrgios wins. The bad boy of tennis wins Wimbledon AND a Russian WTA champion after they banned Russian players. She was born in Moscow and lives in Moscow and only represents Kazakhstan 'cos they gave her better sponsorship than Russia. It would top off a hilarious tournament.

I need to Nick to win...I lost money on Ons Jabeur Moxie will now have a go at me for betting lol!

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Anyway I am hoping that the win from our Aussie Doubles Team who were R/U to Nick and Thanasi at the AO this year will give Nick added confidence that he can win the mens singles
Max and Matt were the first Aussie Mens doubles to win since the Woodies in 2000. Oi,Oi, Oi,
Gosh Australia will probably announce a Public Holiday nation wide if we can get the double at Wimbledon this year!
Matt and Max in the doubles and Nick winning the mens singles!

 

[Moxie]

To be fair, he did win 5 matches to reach the SF for the 1st time ever in his career. So, there’s something there.

While you are correct that the pressure of winning CYGS is greater than what he will feel tomorrow; there is still A LOT of pressure due the circumstances he put himself too.

I have said it before: He knows that tomorrow is his last slam match of 2022. If he doesn’t win tomorrow, he will come into 2023 either he will be behind two slams or three slams against Nadal. While 2 slams deficit is not big, he definitely feels like it is a huge gap due to his age and other circumstances.

He wants to end 2022 Slam season at least 1 slam behind Nadal going into 2023 season.

I agree with you that the pressure on Novak is not unlike the pressure of last year's USO, due to what he is up against, in the sense that he may not play another Major until Roland Garros next year. And he's getting long in the tooth, and opportunities will lessen. Also given that Rafa could yet win the USO again. If healthy, he'll be a top favorite. Wimbledon keeps Novak in touching distance. Without it, who knows, but he may be 36 before he plays another Major. He already needs 3 to pass Nadal.

As to Kyrgios, he has done what he set out to do, so far, which was basically hold it together well enough to get this far. I do not believe he doesn't care. But I do believe he cares less than Novak. He's always been able to get up for big matches, and he likes the show against top players. Someone on a thread made the point that it was #40 against #1, or something. Technically, it's #3 against #40, but even still...Nick has never been a threat due to ranking. Of what was on offer, this Wimbledon, and with Rafa out, who's a better option for threat?

There is a chance that Nick completely collapses under the pressure. There is a chance that Novak comes in large and in-charge, and Nick has nothing to say about it. But it is best of 5, so most likely it will be a competitive match. How competitive, how long, how crazy it might get...that's what we're all tuning in to see.

 

[Front242]

I need to Nick to win...I lost money on Ons Jabeur Moxie will now have a go at me for betting lol!

Go for ones likely to win. Too many so called betting predictions talk about value, eg, there's great value for Kyrgios to win 7-6 7-6 7-6 but how likely is it to happen ? Imo, best bets for the match are either Djokovic to lose the first set and win the match, Kyrgios to win the first set, both players to win a set/match > 3.5 sets, over games (you can choose alternative over/under if the ones on the main page seem too high) and from there on it's down to choosing set betting with small amounts and just having a punt at eg Djokovic to win 3-1, Kyrgios to win 3-1. Who knows, maybe it goes to 5 sets. Safer than going for player x or y to win 3-1 is choosing the player you feel will win and both players to win a set so you're covered if it goes to 5. Djokovic has come back from 2 sets down a fair few times in the last few years. I still havent decided what to bet on 'cos not cashing out on a few early in the tournament cost me so trying to make it back sensibly now. I had Wawrinka to beat Sinner since Sinner had never won match on grass and also had Stan to win 3-1 and I should have cashed out but was giving Stan a chance. Sinner sure exceeded everyone's expectations! Especially his own.

If you're loaded back Djokovic to lose the first set and win the match and stick money on Kyrgios to win also to hedge your bet in case Djokovic manages to lose or just a bigger bet on both players to win a set 'cos I reckon that's guaranteed whereas the others are more up in the air.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Go for ones likely to win. Too many so called betting predictions talk about value, eg, there's great value for Kyrgios to win 7-6 7-6 7-6 but how likely is it to happen ? Imo, best bets for the match are either Djokovic to lose the first set and win the match, Kyrgios to win the first set, both players to win a set/match > 3.5 sets, over games (you can choose alternative over/under if the ones on the main page seem too high) and from there on it's down to choosing set betting with small amounts and just having a punt at eg Djokovic to win 3-1, Kyrgios to win 3-1. Who knows, maybe it goes to 5 sets. Safer than going for player x or y to win 3-1 is choosing the player you feel will win and both players to win a set so you're covered if it goes to 5. Djokovic has come back from 2 sets down a fair few times in the last few years. I still havent decided what to bet on 'cos not cashing out on a few early in the tournament cost me so trying to make it back sensibly now. I had Wawrinka to beat Sinner since Sinner had never won match on grass and also had Stan to win 3-1 and I should have cashed out but was giving Stan a chance. Sinner sure exceeded everyone's expectations! Especially his own.

We bet at 5/1 to Nick to win the tournament, we could have had 50/1 at the beginning
Agree, Sinner exceeded my expectations especially on grass, being his worst surface, though could have been the Cahill factor, Darren has now become Sinner's full tine coach, I am delighted with that news, for my young Italian youngster.

 

[Front242]

We bet at 5/1 to Nick to win the tournament, we could have had 50/1 at the beginning
Agree, Sinner exceeded my expectations especially on grass, being his worst surface, though could have been the Cahill factor, Darren has now become Sinner's full tine coach, I am delighted with that news, for my young Italian youngster.

I never do outrights but kinda gutted I didn't back Kyrgios each way back at the 4th round stage. That way if he makes the final and loses you still get something for the 2nd place odds and they were still high then 'cos they weren't predicting him to get past Nadal. Yeah great news about Cahill.

 

[Moxie]

For the record, I have no problem with anyone betting. I think I have made it clear how little I understand it, is all. (Still sounds like a foreign language to me.) Sports betting has just become legal in the US. Perhaps I'll take it up in my dotage with my retirement money and let you guys tell me how to play the odds. But that's a few years down the road yet.

 

[Front242]

For what it's worth, mixed opinions here.

https://lastwordonsports.com/tennis...inal-predictions-novak-djokovic-nick-kyrgios/

Btw, someone claimed this on that link "Djokovic’s run is quite tough to evaluate. He looked mostly dominant through the first two rounds but looked in trouble against both Jannik Sinner and Cameron Norrie before they suffered injuries."

Neither of them were injured though were they?! First I heard of it anyway. Ok, I see Sinner rolled his ankle. I was working while that was on and missed it. Didn't read anything about Norrie falling/getting injured though.

 

[rafanoy1992]

For what it's worth, mixed opinions here.

https://lastwordonsports.com/tennis...inal-predictions-novak-djokovic-nick-kyrgios/

Btw, someone claimed this on that link "Djokovic’s run is quite tough to evaluate. He looked mostly dominant through the first two rounds but looked in trouble against both Jannik Sinner and Cameron Norrie before they suffered injuries."

Neither of them were injured though were they?! First I heard of it anyway.

Both Sinner and Norrie weren’t injured at all. Djokovic started slow as usual and picked up his level after Set 1.

 

[Front242]

Both Sinner and Norrie weren’t injured at all. Djokovic started slow as usual and picked up his level after Set 1.

Yeah I see Sinner fell but I watched highlights and even in set 5 he was flying around the court.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Yeah I see Sinner fell but I watched highlights and even in set 5 he was flying around the court.

Sinner was okay after the fall.I must say I held my brreath he got up and his movement was fine for the rest of the match

 

[Moxie]

Yeah I see Sinner fell but I watched highlights and even in set 5 he was flying around the court.

No one said he was injured. You made that up. Stop looking for trouble.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

No one said he was injured. You made that up. Stop looking for trouble.

Leave Fronty alone he has a right to his own opinion, even if at times he is wrong just joking Front.

 

[Front242]

No it was someone in that link I posted above claimed Djokovic looked in trouble before Sinner and Norrie were injured. I really need to sleep now! 3am here.

 

[Moxie]

For what it's worth, mixed opinions here.

https://lastwordonsports.com/tennis...inal-predictions-novak-djokovic-nick-kyrgios/

Btw, someone claimed this on that link "Djokovic’s run is quite tough to evaluate. He looked mostly dominant through the first two rounds but looked in trouble against both Jannik Sinner and Cameron Norrie before they suffered injuries."

Neither of them were injured though were they?! First I heard of it anyway. Ok, I see Sinner rolled his ankle. I was working while that was on and missed it. Didn't read anything about Norrie falling/getting injured though.

Thanks for the link to those mixed opinions. TBH, we should really do our own public blog, as I think we've covered most of those bases, and likely better. For example:

"Kyrgios could win this match. He has beaten Djokovic in both of their previous meetings after all. But he almost certainly won’t win this match. If anything, his victories over the Serb, which came in quick succession in 2017, are likely to lead to overconfidence on his part. He also hasn’t beaten anyone who is even remotely comparable to Djokovic on the grass so far at Wimbledon, whilst his rhythm has been disrupted by not playing a semifinal."

Firstly, "Overconfidence" on Nick's part in the final? Based on the H2H from 2017?? Not bloody likely. Also, "he hasn't beaten anyone who is even remotely comparable to Djokovic on grass so far at Wimbledon..." Well, who actually is? Roger Federer? He didn't play this year. Last years finalist, Berrettini? Likewise.
Nadal? Gave him a walkover. And speaking of that, to the point above, I really don't know how bad it was for Nick to get the SF off. He did talk about being up most of the night, and feeling like a lit firecracker or whatever, BUT, we have talked about Nick's fitness. He doesn't train that hard and he hasn't played anything like a full schedule this year. All things being equal, I think he's better with the physical and mental rest, than having had a SF to contend.

So that was just the first paragraph. And it was pretty clear those people were all over the place. This one is hard to pick, as everyone seems to agree. Especially if you're trying to game by sets. OBVIOUSLY, the favorite is Novak, in the end, but Kyrgios is so unpredictable, and so capable of the upset. I guarantee you there is no one betting their house on the outcome of this match.

 

[Moxie]

Leave Fronty alone he has a right to his own opinion, even if at times he is wrong just joking Front.

I have spoken of my undying love for Front, and how much I'm glad he's back debating the tennis. He's used to me giving him shit. I'm sure he expects it.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Actually there was a rumor that Novak's elbow was giving him trouble in this tournament.

 

[rafanoy1992]

Actually there was a rumor that Novak's elbow was giving him trouble in this tournament.

Where did you hear that rumor, Margaret?

 

[rafanoy1992]

To be fair, the only reason I “want” Kyrgios to win tomorrow is because of how close the slam title “race” is between Nadal and Djokovic. If the “race” is not that close at all, then I wouldn’t really care who wins the match.

I am curious to see on how Kyrgios will play on a big stage like this. One thing about Kyrgios is that he usually does gets up in these types of matches. Whether he wins or lose, he is competitive in these high stakes matches.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Where did you hear that rumor, Margaret?

From a couple of journalists, one I follow he is from Serbia, though that was in week one, not now though.
I take these things with a grain of salt.